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post Jun 13 2021, 09:18 PM
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Welcome back to New Persephonia City (or welcome for the first time to the 75% of you who weren't in heat 1), it is time for the Andra Chansen round of Buzzjackfestivalen VI ~

8 songs have already booked a place in the grand final, and this round will pick another 3 songs to join them. In keeping with the format of the last BJFestivalen the victorious songs will be determined via a slightly convoluted duel system - I will explain it later in this post but don't worry about it if it's a little confusing, the only important points are the following:

1) Voting is only mandatory for those who have a song in this round but it is open to all 44 BJFestivalen VI participants - I encourage you all to have your say and support your faves, after all there are only 12 songs to listen to and you all know at least 3 of them already from the heats stage (unless your name is Math, but you can still vote even if that is your name).

2) To submit your votes simply drop a PM to me ranking the 12 songs below from your favourite to least favourite (excluding your own song if you have one). Don't worry about the duels mentioned in the latter half of the post, they will be worked out automatically.

3) The deadline is 23:59 BST on Thursday 17th June giving y'all a little over 4 days again.

Our Andra Chansen contenders:

01 Cor Lupus // REZZ - Taste Of You (feat. Dove Cameron)
02 Elëdan // ooes - зима
03 Hendinia // NEIMY - Knife Out Of My Back
04 Jadakissnia // BLANCO - Notti In Bianco
05 Mulgracia // Smash Into Pieces - Bangarang
06 New Lexico // Emma Nicoline - Hva Så Nu
07 Niceland // Dynamite & Stadic - What Is That
08 Ojnoj // Ben Platt - Imagine
09 POPHub // Mari Bølla - Not That Girl
10 République d'Áskorza // Luca Hänni & Sunlike Brothers - Durch Die Nacht
11 Skall // Hervé - Addenda
12 Sovarasma // FLAVIA - Ripe

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(you can skip the rest of this post if you don't care about how the results are determined)

Our eternal sponsor random.org has assigned the following duels:

if you missed the bolded instructions above, you are not supposed to vote directly in these duels, you vote by ranking all 12 songs xx

Duel 1
Elëdan vs. New Lexico

Duel 2
Sovarasma vs. Jadakissnia

Duel 3
Ojnoj vs. Cor Lupus

Duel 4
Hendinia vs. République d'Áskorza

Duel 5
Niceland vs. Skall

Duel 6
Mulgracia vs. POPHub

The winners of each duel will be determined by comparing how the duelling nations rank against each other in each of the votes, with a 50/50 weighting for the votes of AC participants and all other voters. In effect, there will be 20 'points' allocated between each duel, with the country getting over 10 points winning the duel. Here's an example of how points may be allocated as I am struggling to communicate how this works in a readable way kink.gif

- Let's say that all 12 AC participants vote as well as (very optimistically xx) 20 other people
- Out of the 12 AC participants, 6 of them rank Elëdan above New Lexico and 4 rank New Lexico above Elëdan (New Lexico and Elëdan's own rankings not being considered as they cannot rank themselves); this would simply translate to 6 points to Elëdan and 4 points to New Lexico (that's the easy part)
- Out of the 20 non-AC participant voters, 13 of them rank New Lexico above Elëdan and 7 of them rank Elëdan above New Lexico; this would be scaled down to 13/20*10 = 6.5 points to New Lexico and 7/20*10 = 3.5 points to Elëdan (replace the 20 in those calculations with however many non-AC participants actually vote in reality)
- New Lexico would thus win the duel with 10.5 points to Elëdan's 9.5

After the 6 duel winners are determined, this will be whittled down to 3 qualifying nations (automatically, not requiring anyone to submit votes again) by performing the same calculations pitting the winner of duel 1 against the winner of duel 2, and the same for duels 3 vs. 4 and duels 5 vs. 6. If any of the duels turn out as 10-10 ties after weighting, preference will be given to the vote by AC participants. If that was also a 5-5 tie then we might need a crisis meeting to decide how to separate that tie but let's hope that just doesn't happen. x

Makes sense? No? I tried my best kink.gif just trust me, I know what I'm doing xo

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Votes received so far (12 + 12):
Cor Lupus
Elëdan
Hendinia
Jadakissnia
Mulgracia
New Lexico
Niceland
Ojnoj
POPHub
République d'Áskorza
Skall
Sovarasma
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Bøtanikkä
Caerfyrddia
Danæviia
Dobago
FSR Rontvia
Harmonica
Kathaldazia
Land of DW
Terra Lobster
Persephonia
Séyetana
Zaminton
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post Jun 13 2021, 09:30 PM
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Im not liking my odds of getting out of AC
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post Jun 13 2021, 09:41 PM
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Hmm not quite sure how the second round works. How do you decide which nation wins in the duel 1 vs. duel 2 round especially if one nation votes for the winners of duel 1 and duel 2 or the losers of duel 1 and duel 2? Sorry for the ask!
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post Jun 13 2021, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(uhsting @ Jun 13 2021, 10:41 PM) *
Hmm not quite sure how the second round works. How do you decide which nation wins in the duel 1 vs. duel 2 round especially if one nation votes for the winners of duel 1 and duel 2 or the losers of duel 1 and duel 2? Sorry for the ask!


It's not a 'second round', it's worked out from the same set of votes - if Elëdan won duel 1 and Sovarasma won duel 2 then the qualifier is decided as if it was just a duel between Elëdan and Sovarasma for example. Everyone ranks all of the songs so it all just follows automatically.
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post Jun 13 2021, 09:53 PM
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i don't quite appreciate me not winning this duel in the example. this is damaging my brand and i will have no other choice but to sue you for all the BJSC wins you have x
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vs. Ojnoj?

welp I’m for sure out here rip
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post Jun 13 2021, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(Bré @ Jun 13 2021, 11:18 PM) *
1) Voting is only mandatory for those who have a song in this round but it is open to all 44 BJFestivalen VI participants - I encourage you all to have your say and support your faves, after all there are only 12 songs to listen to and you all know at least 3 of them already from the heats stage (unless your name is Math, but you can still vote even if that is your name).

Duel 1
Elëdan vs. New Lexico

Duel 2
Sovarasma vs. Jadakissnia

Duel 3
Ojnoj vs. Cor Lupus

Duel 4
Hendinia vs. République d'Áskorza

Duel 5
Niceland vs. Skall

Duel 6
Mulgracia vs. POPHub

The winners of each duel will be determined by comparing how the duelling nations rank against each other in each of the votes, with a 50/50 weighting for the votes of AC participants and all other voters. In effect, there will be 20 'points' allocated between each duel, with the country getting over 10 points winning the duel. Here's an example of how points may be allocated as I am struggling to communicate how this works in a readable way kink.gif

- Let's say that all 12 AC participants vote as well as (very optimistically xx) 20 other people
- Out of the 12 AC participants, 6 of them rank Elëdan above New Lexico and 4 rank New Lexico above Elëdan (New Lexico and Elëdan's own rankings not being considered as they cannot rank themselves); this would simply translate to 6 points to Elëdan and 4 points to New Lexico (that's the easy part)
- Out of the 20 non-AC participant voters, 13 of them rank New Lexico above Elëdan and 7 of them rank Elëdan above New Lexico; this would be scaled down to 13/20*10 = 6.5 points to New Lexico and 7/20*10 = 3.5 points to Elëdan (replace the 20 in those calculations with however many non-AC participants actually vote in reality)
- New Lexico would thus win the duel with 10.5 points to Elëdan's 9.5

After the 6 duel winners are determined, this will be whittled down to 3 qualifying nations (automatically, not requiring anyone to submit votes again) by performing the same calculations pitting the winner of duel 1 against the winner of duel 2, and the same for duels 3 vs. 4 and duels 5 vs. 6. If any of the duels turn out as 10-10 ties after weighting, preference will be given to the vote by AC participants. If that was also a 5-5 tie then we might need a crisis meeting to decide how to separate that tie but let's hope that just doesn't happen. x

Makes sense? No? I tried my best kink.gif just trust me, I know what I'm doing xo

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What I understand is: pls only vote if you prefer my song to Niceland's, Mulgracia's and POPHub's.
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post Jun 13 2021, 10:12 PM
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I realise that this is assumedly Sweden's fault and not Buzzjack's but one thing that's very unsatisfying is that we have 12 songs in each heat, 12 songs in Andra Chansen and then only 11 in the final.

why don't we have Andra Chansen of Andra Chansen to make a 12th finalist x

Actually nvm I realised that the number of total songs and thus number in the initial heat is arbitrary and depends on the number of people choosing to enter.


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post Jun 13 2021, 10:15 PM
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If it makes it less unsatisfying, there were only 11 songs in each heat.

Actual Melodifestivalen has 7 songs per heat, 8 in AC and 12 in the final.
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post Jun 13 2021, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(Bré @ Jun 14 2021, 12:15 AM) *
If it makes it less unsatisfying, there were only 11 songs in each heat.

The thing that is now most unsatisfying is the feeling of being wrong in so many different ways.
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post Jun 14 2021, 09:40 PM
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Voted/ranked!

My favourite here might just be my favourite overall, although there are one or two stunning DTF songs too.
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post Jun 15 2021, 07:52 PM
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Think I shall do a quick SyncTube listenthrough for this tomorrow if anyone is interested - it'll be much shorter than these listenthroughs normally are ofc but might as well!
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post Jun 15 2021, 07:59 PM
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May I request an earlier session of 7 so it can finish before Italy vs. Switzerland tomorrow? kink.gif
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post Jun 15 2021, 08:29 PM
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I can make it tomorrow party.gif The earlier the better *.*
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post Jun 15 2021, 08:30 PM
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Happy to do it at 7 cool.gif
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post Jun 16 2021, 05:41 PM
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Sorry it's gonna be more like 7:30 now oops but still happening tonight x
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post Jun 16 2021, 06:31 PM
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Songs: https://sync-tube.de/rooms/toCbMcJNZ
Chat (in the bjsc-listening-sesh-chat channel): https://discord.gg/rH98tKsM

Will be starting shortly, sorry for being last minute xo
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Voted! cheer.gif
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post Jun 16 2021, 07:14 PM
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Voted! Duel 6 is cruel sad.gif
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post Jun 16 2021, 11:04 PM
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24 hours left for this! Awaiting the votes from 7 of the AC participants ~ (I'll probably send some reminders tomorrow)

Received 7 other votes so far from non-AC countries (8 if Addy gets back to me voting in the correct format kink.gif I thought I'd made it clear enough but the duels are just for the results, you don't vote directly in them xx) - we had 10 non-AC countries voting in the AC round last time so would be good if we can beat that this time!
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