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1^∞ View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 02:01 AM Post #1
New Entry Group: Members Posts: 9 Member No.: 93,670 Joined: 13-October 19 No Gallery Pics	I know ties were common from the start of the chart but I've ever seen it for a #1, has there ever been a tie for #1


I am Kenough View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 03:06 AM Post #2
BuzzJack Platinum Member Group: Members Posts: 6,485 Member No.: 122,344 Joined: 26-January 21 No Gallery Pics	I think the closest that ever came to happening was in 1990 between Groove Is In The Heart by Deee-Lite and The Joker by The Steve Miller Band which were separated by just 8 copies!


mick745 View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 06:22 AM Post #3
BuzzJack Climber Group: Members Posts: 126 Member No.: 17,441 Joined: 4-August 12 No Gallery Pics	11 December 1953 both "Answer Me" by David Whitfield and "Answer Me" by Frankie Laine were No. 1 1 February 1957 both Frankie Vaughan's Garden of Eden and Guy Mitchell's Singing the Blues were joint No. 1's 4 July 1958 both Everley Brothers All i Do is Dream and Vic Damone's zon the Street Where you live were joint No. 1's. 18 December 1959 both Adam Faith's What do you Want and Emipe Ford and the Checkmates What do you want to make those eyes at me for were joint no.1's. It has also happened on the album charts a few times, even as late as 1982.


oof View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 11:28 AM Post #4
BuzzJack Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 749 Member No.: 86,345 Joined: 7-April 19 No Gallery Pics	I believed that originally The Joker claimed the top spot due to a rule at the time that saw the track with the biggest increase in sales from the week prior break the tie, I'm not entirely sure how true this is as they later did find the 8 separating copies, but I do wonder whether this would have affected Kate Nash had she sold an extra 16 copies in that fateful week. Not a number one but the last tie I can think of was some Mariah Carey track sharing #42 in the 90s, and in the albums of course The Lexicon of Love by ABC sharing its last week at the top with the Fame soundtrack's first.


Dasher View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 12:14 PM Post #5
Ciao, 911? E 'Quagmire. Sì, è preso nella finestra di questo Group: Chart Veteran Posts: 17,578 Member No.: 13,341 Joined: 25-March 11 No Gallery Pics	There was a tie in September 2005 in the top 5 between Mylo and Daniel Powter. Alan Jones commentated at the time "It's very rare for two singles ranked so high in the chart to have identical sales. The tie-breaker used to be that the record making the biggest gain (or smallest fall) in sales week-on-week would be ranked higher, which, were it still in operation, would actually mean Powter being number four instead of Mylo. I have to admit I'm not sure what determines the ranking these days - probably fractional sales, which I'll explain next week if necessary - but it certainly worked against Powter"


I am Kenough View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 12:23 PM Post #6
BuzzJack Platinum Member Group: Members Posts: 6,485 Member No.: 122,344 Joined: 26-January 21 No Gallery Pics	QUOTE(oof @ Jun 25 2021, 12:28 PM) I believed that originally The Joker claimed the top spot due to a rule at the time that saw the track with the biggest increase in sales from the week prior break the tie, I'm not entirely sure how true this is as they later did find the 8 separating copies, but I do wonder whether this would have affected Kate Nash had she sold an extra 16 copies in that fateful week. Not a number one but the last tie I can think of was some Mariah Carey track sharing #42 in the 90s, and in the albums of course The Lexicon of Love by ABC sharing its last week at the top with the Fame soundtrack's first. The thing with The Joker/Groove Is In The Heart is it was all calculated by panel sales in the early 90s so they didn't have a record of every single copy purchased anyway, it's possible with a gap so small that Groove In The Heart did indeed outsell The Joker copy for copy that week but there's no way of ever knowing. I think the rule about the biggest increase breaking a tie was scrapped directly because of this situation so it wouldn't have impacted Foundations anwyay.


Golden45 View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 01:21 PM Post #7
New Entry Group: Members Posts: 6 Member No.: 77,961 Joined: 23-October 18 No Gallery Pics	No exact ties I can recall. The Deeelite/Steve Miller Band battle was decided on the basis that SMB had a greater increase in sales, which were the rules at the time. A recount put SMB 8 sales ahead. The rules were changed shortly after to allow chart ties again. In August 2007, Kate Nash was just 16 sales behind Timbaland, which I believe is the closest we've had since


Robbie View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 01:26 PM Post #8
BuzzJack Gold Member Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Member No.: 366 Joined: 4-April 06 No Gallery Pics	QUOTE(Gezza @ Jun 25 2021, 01:14 PM) There was a tie in September 2005 in the top 5 between Mylo and Daniel Powter. Alan Jones commentated at the time "It's very rare for two singles ranked so high in the chart to have identical sales. The tie-breaker used to be that the record making the biggest gain (or smallest fall) in sales week-on-week would be ranked higher, which, were it still in operation, would actually mean Powter being number four instead of Mylo. I have to admit I'm not sure what determines the ranking these days - probably fractional sales, which I'll explain next week if necessary - but it certainly worked against Powter" In the very same week there was a tie at number 1 - on the Compilation Albums chart! Alan Jones also wrote in his chart commentary for that week: QUOTE Bizarrely, there's also a sales tie at the very top of the compilations chart this week. After seven weeks at number one, Now! 61 dips to number three on the chart, being overtaken by Dance Party and Massive R&B Volume 2 - two Sony/BMG/UMTV collaborations which, both turn in sales tallies of 20,249, with Dance Party getting the nod as number one.


Suedehead2 View Member Profile	Jun 25 2021, 01:43 PM Post #9
BuzzJack Legend Group: Veteran Posts: 36,242 Member No.: 3,272 Joined: 13-April 07 No Gallery Pics	With streams contributing fractions of sales, a tie is now extremely unlikely, even in the very lowest reaches of the chart. There may be a tie in the published figures (to the nearest integer), but the actual figures (to several decimal places) are unlikely to be identical.


fiesta View Member Profile	Jun 29 2021, 03:00 PM Post #10
BuzzJack Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,628 Member No.: 232 Joined: 15-March 06 No Gallery Pics	There was no missing sales or any recount back in 1990 with the Joker. The 8 copies was always there to start with. It was down to the way it was worked out at the time. For instance if there were 900 stores in the initial sample they would reduce this number down to 250 stores (so that figures were consistent with data from previous years) to give a panel sale. However these calculations didn't always produce a whole number. It's only when they produce their weekly sales reports that the numbers get rounded to the nearest integer.