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CianS
post Jul 28 2021, 09:02 AM
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Dua Lipa has denounced her former collaborator DaBaby following some homophobic remarks he made at a recent concert and there has been a groundswell of fans wanting to no longer stream the DaBaby version of 'Levitating' and to just listen to the pure Dua version. Does Dua have the power to delete the version of Levitating with DaBaby from Spotify if she wants to?

Similarly with Taylor Swift, can she delete the old version of Fearless, from which she makes less money, from her Spotify page to insist that fans only listen to the new "Taylor" version? Or are these pages owned by record labels and they decide what goes where?

It's something I find quite interesting and wondering does anyone know what the official rule, if any is. We know Lady GaGa managed to get 'Do What U Want' off Spotify, so we know it is possible.

Also, if overnight all the streams for 'Levitating' became the Dua only version, rather than DaBaby, would he fall off the credit on the Official Chart? How would they note this in a historical chart run?

Apologies if these are over-pedantic question. Hopefully this is the right place to ask them, mods feel free to move if not.
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post Jul 28 2021, 09:07 AM
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I’m not actually sure if she has the power to delete it, but it will interesting to see if streams for the dababy Remix fall dramatically and the original picks up streams! Also, dababy isn’t credited on the song by OCC, the song is only credited to Dua.
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post Jul 28 2021, 09:46 AM
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I think their labels/manager/staff own and manage the artist pages. The artists have little or no control over their Spotify pages. The labels are the ones requesting to remove tracks from streaming services.

Depends on artists and label though. "Independent" or unsigned acts manage their own pages and their label/imprint is an extension or something.


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post Jul 28 2021, 10:02 AM
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Heard about those DaBaby comments - he's completely sounds deranged. Disappointing such homophobia exists in the hip hop community in 2021. Good on Dua Lipa for standing up for her LGBT fans - she is brave like when she refused to back down on her stance on the Israeli/Palestine conflict too.
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post Jul 28 2021, 11:24 AM
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Re: Taylor I'm pretty sure if she was able to take down the older version of 'Fearless' (be it her having that power herself or being able to pressure the label to do it) she would have already.

Given how popular it still is I hiiiighly doubt they'd take down the 'Levitating' remix (it's not quite the same case as 'Do What U Want', that song was years old and R. Kelly's situation was far, far worse than DaBaby's). And let's be real here, the vast majority of the casual audience is not going to care to stop streaming it because of DaBaby being a dickhead.

As Liam said the OCC has never credited DaBaby on the song. Over in the US they would drop him from the credits in a hypothetical universe where radio and the public start completely shunning the remix in favour of the original, but it wouldn't retrospectively remove the weeks he was already credited for (this is fairly commonplace with remixes in the Hot 100, see Nicki Minaj being credited on 'Say So' for like 2 weeks meaning it does 'officially' count as a #1 for her but then being removed again etc.)
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post Jul 28 2021, 03:21 PM
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Boohoo fashion brand have stopped working with DaBaby in the future so the backlash is growing. I think although I'm not completely comfortable with making tracks unavailable on streaming platforms (and where would you draw the line as there would be so many deletions from thousands of artists for unsavoury comments/actions) maybe the record company could stop promoting this version, ask radio stations not to play it. I see that DaBaby has apologised although many people aren't satisfied with it as he adds to many qualifications/mixed messages and even finishes the apology with a plug for his tour!

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post Jul 28 2021, 05:48 PM
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I read this article about Tears For Fears recently which would suggest it's an artist's management who control what's on Spotify:

Tears For Fears have told SuperDeluxeEdition how the failure to release their 2005 album Everybody Loves A Happy Ending on streaming services was partially behind the duo’s decision to change their management.

Roland Orzabal and Curt Smith recently joined the father-and-son management team Irving and Jeff Azoff, whose firm Full Stop also manage Harry Styles, Mark Ronson and the Eagles.

Everybody Loves A Happy Ending suddenly appeared on streaming services last weekend (November 20). Orzabal revealed how the album’s previous inaccessibility on streaming services was a source of frustration for the band.

Orzabal and Smith are working on a new album together in New York, where Smith lives. Of the duo’s plans, Orzabal said: “There was a plan to start releasing new tracks this year. But that didn’t emerge, as it felt like it was one too many tasks for our then-management to actually put out. Everybody Loves A Happy Ending wasn’t even on Spotify – that was another task we asked them to do, which was apparently one task too many. We asked them to get …Happy Ending on streaming, but it wasn’t there. So we’ve changed management.”

The appearance of Everybody Loves A Happy Ending on streaming services is a positive sign and fans will hope that an expanded deluxe edition of the album might form part of the band’s long-running reissue campaign. The Hurting and Songs From The Big Chair were re-released in 2013 and 2014 respectively and were followed this October by the long-delayed reissue of 1989’s The Seeds Of Love. The first release under Full Stop’s management, the five-disc edition reached number 13 in the UK album chart. Orzabal said: “Changing management was a big deal, of course. It felt like getting the box set for The Seeds Of Love finally done was the first thing that needed to happen.

Smith and Orzabal own the copyright on Everybody Loves A Happy Ending, which is credited to “TFF UK” on Spotify. The album’s British release in March 2005 on Gut Records was six months after it came out in the US on New Door in September 2004. It had been recorded for Arista, who dropped the duo before its release. The album has never been released on vinyl, bar promo copies pressed on red vinyl for Arista, which are so rare it’s never come up for sale on Discogs. That should now change, though it’s thought that Tears For Fears’ new album – their first since Everybody Loves A Happy Ending – will be released first in 2021.


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post Jul 28 2021, 06:23 PM
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Didn’t Gaga delete the R Kelly version of Do What U Want?
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post Jul 28 2021, 06:47 PM
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Yes, as mentioned in the opening post... kink.gif
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post Jul 28 2021, 07:11 PM
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Very rarely do mainstream artists have control over anything themselves. It depends on each contract of course but I’m pretty sure everything an artist releases is technically label’s property (if that artist is signed obv) so it’s not just one person’s decision. This is business and pop stars are just another product to sell.
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post Jul 28 2021, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(Bré @ Jul 28 2021, 07:47 PM) *
Yes, as mentioned in the opening post... kink.gif


Clearly didn’t read it properly but thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch
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post Jul 28 2021, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(tgl92 @ Jul 28 2021, 10:16 PM) *
Clearly didn’t read it properly but thanks for being a sarcy lil bitch

Lmao I'm pretty sure Bre was kidding with you.
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