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> Darren Hayes - Homosexual, Out 7th October
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slowdown73
post 18th August 2022, 10:18 AM
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https://www.musicglue.com/darrenhayes

His new album is called Homosexual. A very brave title in my opinion. I am not sure I would have chosen that particular title personally; as homosexual is an outdated term.

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post 18th August 2022, 05:04 PM
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I love that title! Good on him.
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post 19th August 2022, 03:25 AM
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His new single - All you pretty things is the strongest new track by far.
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post 19th August 2022, 08:55 AM
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what is outdated about the word homosexual?
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post 19th August 2022, 09:14 AM
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It's not brave. It's desperate and looking for attention, in my opinion.

It's as if there is nothing more to him than his sexual orientation.
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post 19th August 2022, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Aug 19 2022, 09:14 AM) *
It's not brave. It's desperate and looking for attention, in my opinion.

It's as if there is nothing more to him than his sexual orientation.


Please.

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It took a long time for Hayes, now 50, to be able to embrace his sexuality. He grew up in the rigidly conservative Queensland of the 1970s, where his father called him the F word, he says, and kids at school bullied him for being gay before he knew what that meant.

“I remember being in meetings where they were openly mocking Ricky Martin,” Hayes recalls, his posture stiffening. “I did my first video for [lead single]Insatiable … I had blonde hair, I was dancing [in it] and the head of the record company told everyone that I looked ‘too gay’. They cancelled all of the promotion in the US for that album.” After that, Hayes says, “My career in Australia and in the US pretty much just stopped.” The video for Insatiable was eventually reshot with a female love interest. It was a “horrible time”, Hayes says. “I was constantly put in music videos where I was in a romantic situation with a woman or I was muted,’’ he says of his early career. “And for me, it was like, ‘No, I’m going to show you, I’m going to cast a man that I think is really f***ing sexy.’”

“I realised that the entire time that I was famous, all this energy and all this love was being received by an avatar. It wasn’t being received by me,” Hayes says. “And I looked at Troye Sivan, I looked at Brendan Maclean, who’s a local Sydney gay artist that I love, I looked at Lil Nas X, and I saw this new generation who just arrive as their authentic selves. And I was so angry that I had been extinguished. I’d been extinguished by men in suits."

Much of the record is devoted to celebrating his eros and sexuality. Hayes is releasing the album on his own label, a move that freed him to make music completely on his own terms, without the input of those men in suits. That felt like catharsis.


He is an artist that hid his sexuality for the majority of his career. He's finally getting to celebrate himself openly and as loudly as he wants.
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post 19th August 2022, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Aug 19 2022, 01:09 PM) *
He is an artist that hid his sexuality for the majority of his career.

Not really. He has been publicly out of the closet since 2005, IIRC.


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post 19th August 2022, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Aug 19 2022, 11:15 AM) *
Not really. He has been publicly out of the closet since 2005, IIRC.


I mean, to most people before 2005 is the majority of his career? �� Plus, anyone who even vaguely follows him knows that there is more to him than just his sexuality, your comment reads like internalised homophobia to me.

I also wasn't aware that "homosexual" is a supposedly outdated term either.

Album cover (really quite love it):



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post 19th August 2022, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Aug 19 2022, 10:19 AM) *
I mean, to most people before 2005 is the majority of his career? ��


Exactly. His mainstream success was as a 'straight' artist. He also hasn't released an album in over a decade — so much has changed since then. I'm sure it is liberating to see all these young artists finding success as themselves in a way he wasn't able to.

He has been very open about being suicidal in the past and struggling to accept his sexuality — he's clearly put in the work to feel comfortable and proud of himself, so to call the album title desperate is absurd.


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post 19th August 2022, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Aug 19 2022, 12:14 PM) *
It's not brave. It's desperate and looking for attention, in my opinion.

It's as if there is nothing more to him than his sexual orientation.


Thats right. Imagine the other way around. I release my new album and call it Heterosexual
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post 19th August 2022, 10:42 AM
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"Why can't we have a Straight Pride?!?!?!?!"
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post 19th August 2022, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(Charis @ Aug 19 2022, 01:40 PM) *
Thats right. Imagine the other way around. I release my new album and call it Heterosexual

Hmmm... I disagree. Gays, unlike straights, have always been oppressed.

I do understand why he wants to celebrate himself.


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post 20th August 2022, 12:10 PM
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The new song is the best and should have been released first!
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post 21st August 2022, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(dannjohn @ Aug 19 2022, 09:55 AM) *
what is outdated about the word homosexual?


It’s not a term that is particularly used as much these days. When it was used in the past, ‘homosexual’ was often used to pathologise or stigmatise same sex relationships particularly in a clinical setting where heterosexual was seen as the so called ‘norm’. Gay / lesbian is a far more inclusive term.


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post 21st August 2022, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Aug 19 2022, 10:14 AM) *
It's not brave. It's desperate and looking for attention, in my opinion.

It's as if there is nothing more to him than his sexual orientation.



Why is it looking for attention? I think the guy just wants to celebrate the fact he is finally comfortable with who he is, after years of having to hide his true self. Nothing wrong with that at all and hardly desperate. The guy went through a terrible time in the 90s and the impact this had on his mental health was awful.
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post 21st August 2022, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(Charis @ Aug 19 2022, 11:40 AM) *
Thats right. Imagine the other way around. I release my new album and call it Heterosexual


You are missing the point though. LGBTQ+ have often faced discrimination and oppression when coming out so it’s a positive statement he is making that he can finally be himself and is comfortable with who he is. Attitudes towards being gay have changed significantly in the last 30-40 years through changes to legislation such as the age of consent being equalised and LGBTQ+ people being given more rights against discrimination. In the past, you could be locked up for being gay or detained under the mental health and sadly these practices still occur in some countries. Heterosexual people have never had to deal with these kinds of experiences in respect of their sexuality, so they would have no need to release an album under the title ‘heterosexual’.


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post 22nd August 2022, 11:00 AM
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Yeah I have to admit I was a bit sceptical about the name of the album at first but if you read that interview in full, it completely makes sense as an album title. Context is everything.
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post 7th October 2022, 03:27 PM
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Really enjoying the album, for me Darren never fails to deliver... Looking forward to seeing him on tour again in April now
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post 8th October 2022, 10:27 PM
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Is track 14 birth on the cd? It’s not listed on track listing in hmv so is it hidden?
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post 9th October 2022, 06:05 AM
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^I believe it's digital-only
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