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  31st March 2023, 01:04 PM
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 the DANce
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This is the official streaming services thread, the go-to topic for the discussion of playlists and charts from services such as Spotify, Apple & Amazon! FAQs What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming? For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread. How many streams equals one download sale? 100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. How much does streaming contribute to the chart? Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole. Spotify counts for at least half of this, with Apple Music and Amazon also big contributors. YouTube is also big however most of YouTube's streams are at the free tier so won't count for as much. Why is my fave not doing well? Is it being promoted on a major curated playlist, and/or going viral on TikTok? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists on Spotify from a UK standpoint. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist. Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes. My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping? Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped releases, such as the recent album impacts from Drake and Taylor Swift. Spotify How do I see today's Spotify chart? To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. For the full top 200, use the link below to go to Spotify's website. You can also use the Kworb website which displays the data in an easier to read format and also contains additional information, however this is often out of date. Spotify App [top 50] Spotify Website [top 200] Kworb [top 200 and extra data] What are the most influential Spotify playlists? Links to Spotify's top playlists are as below. How often does the Spotify chart update? It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although on occasion there will be a delay. What do the numbers mean? The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day. Apple Music How do I see today's Apple Music chart? You can use the link below to view the Apple Music top 100 through Kworb. If you have Apple Music, you can also view the top 200 by going to the Charts section and clicking on See All in the Top Songs section. Kworb [top 100] What are the most influential Apple Music playlists? Links to Apple Music's top playlists are as below. How often does the Apple Music chart update? It like iTunes updates on a regular basis a number of times a day. No streaming figures are provided however, unlike Spotify. Amazon How do I see today's Amazon Music chart? You can use the link below to view the Amazon Music chart. Amazon Music How often does the Amazon Music chart update? It like iTunes updates on a regular basis a number of times a day. No streaming figures are provided however, unlike Spotify. [FAQs written by Dan] Spotify/streaming discussion thread archive 2023: Jan Feb Mar 2022: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2021: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2020: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2019: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec 2018: Jan-Mar Mar-May May-Jun Jun-Sep Sep-Oct Nov Dec 2017: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct-Dec 2016: Jan-Jun Jun-Oct Oct-Dec 2015: Jan-Oct Oct-Dec 2014: Jun-Dec |
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1st April 2023, 03:12 AM
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Excuse my ignorance but who is Davido? Making quite an impression on Apple Music
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1st April 2023, 03:26 AM
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 my vision's narrow, but I know the sun will rise
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He's an afrobeats artist, one of the biggest names in the genre but it's been 3 years since his last album and the genre as a whole has blown up a lot more since then. I think Apple promotes afrobeats a lot more than Spotify does but very intrigued to see if he can chart multiple songs on Spotify too.
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1st April 2023, 07:33 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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QUOTE(Brer @ Apr 1 2023, 10:11 AM)  It only really 'bothered' - I'd say confused more than bothered - me with Rina (and MUNA to a much lesser extent) because discussion of her as if she is or is about to be some mainstream chart star / huge name has been so prevalent despite being entirely baseless for pretty much her entire career (and not only on here), even to the point where people seemed constantly disappointed at her continuing to not chart her singles as if there was ever any reasonable expectation that she would. It just seems to me like some of her fans would be a lot better off just enjoying the music for what it is and not being so bothered by the lack of chart validation. If she was a formerly big name who stopped having hits I'd understand that more, but she's literally never had a hit (apart from the Charli feature ofc but I'm not convinced that song made any difference to her career / name recognition as a whole rather than just being a one off viral hit because of people recognising the sample) so it always slightly baffled me where that discourse came from. (obviously not saying all or even most of her fans are like this, just enough of them that it was noticeable in a way that I have not noticed with similar artists with cult fanbases but no chart presence) It's definitely an interesting echo chamber effect. Usually (but is not limited to) a result of spending too long on any of the triumvirate of r/...heads subreddits that one equates a small community with the bigger picture. When of course we have a bigger picture and it's published every Friday afternoon. Absolute shock that DJ Khaled is more popular than JID etc. I literally compile a fake music chart every week with like half a dozen friends and so need to constantly remind myself that no, the average person on the street has not heard of Magdalena Bay or think's they're the bee's knees. Relevant anecdote about Rina that is extremely Australian in content so read at your own peril: Every year we have the triple j Hottest 100 which generates a lot of speculation in the lead up as to what gets in/places where etc. There had been similar efforts done before but predicting the full list got a lot of mainstream attention when one guy wrote a script to count every vote posted on social media, producing a roughly ~4% sample that proved *very* accurate in projecting the whole thing. This has continued ever since though with less votes on social media and that particular sample being less representative, it's not as accurate as it once was. Rina in fact set a new record when "XS" was projected to land at #82 but in reality missed the entire top 200. It meant an entire broadcast of copium inhalation as it was assumed she had to be in there somewhere but you have to imagine it's a case where not many people voted her, but everyone who did, posted it online (It's me, hi, I'm one of the people who did this). So if nothing else, there's a case where at least briefly there was quantified evidence that she appeared to be in the mix of popularity. Mind you her album charted reasonably well at least. But it's why the charts have so much value because they can settle that score/debate, at least to an extent. Yes, so and so artist is being helped by playlists, algorithms, label tomfoolery etc, but so is basically everyone to an extent. At the end of the day, a stream is a stream, a sale is a sale, and an artist can be very popular even if they don't have a contingent online talking about it, and vice versa. |
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1st April 2023, 08:01 AM
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BuzzJack Regular
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When will AIW hit ACR?
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1st April 2023, 08:19 AM
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no one asked for a crusader
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Miracle #1 on Amazon Music
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1st April 2023, 10:42 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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I don't care for Ed or not, really, but no one can say this is not a BOMB. Today's update -
Spotify (March 31|Day 8) Global #47 (-19) 2,280,337(-163,844) US #122 (-60):rip: 395,994(-77,445) UK#9(-1) 222,892(-13,873) Of course his play-listing on Spotify are amazing so no complain over there. |
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1st April 2023, 10:45 AM
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Spotify
1 Calvin Harris Ellie Goulding miracle 2 pinkpantheress ice spice boys a liar 3 Miley, Cyrus flowers 4 SZA, kill Bill 5 Libianca people Other 7 Lizzy McAlpine ceilings 9 ed Sheeran eyes closed 18 Tyler, the Creator dogtooth 25 Melanie Martinez void 28 baker hell n back 46 Taylor, the creator sorry not sorry 47 Taylor Swift, all of the girls, he loved before 52 Paris Paloma labour 54 back up 6 play, George Ezra Green Green grass 57 hozier eat your Young 64 caity baser preset boys 65 Melanie Martinez death 88 Melanie Martinez tunnel vision 94 Taylor, the creator, ASPA, rocky wharf talk 104 jisso flowers 105 Melanie Martinez Evil 114 Maisie Peters lost the breakup 128 Zara larsson cant tame her 131 Melanie Martinez The contortionist 136 borai & denham audio make me 149 Melanie Martinez spiderweb 151 boygenius not strong enough 160 Taylor, The creator stuntman 171 Taylor, the creator, what a day 179 Melanie Martinez Faerie soirιe 182 Taylor, the creator heaven to me 198 Melanie Martinez like shower 200 boygenius cool about it |
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1st April 2023, 10:48 AM
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Pineapple 🍍
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New cian ducrot flop typical Spotify take blood 3 month before chart
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1st April 2023, 10:54 AM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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Miracle
iTunes: #1 Spotify: #1 Apple: #1 Amazon: #1 Its looking good for official #1 this week! 
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1st April 2023, 11:02 AM
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As much as I like Ed's music and think he's done nothing wrong in his release strategy to get this somg to No.1, he's features on 15 Top 100 songs over 2021/2022, and that really is over-saturation. Eyes Closed is "just another Ed Sheeran song" rather than the event it could have been if released in 12 months time after a period of quiet. This post has been edited by ChrisJK: 1st April 2023, 11:03 AM |
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1st April 2023, 11:03 AM
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 psychedelic pop-infused? Pull the other one!
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New Entries
45. Tyler, The Creator - SORRY NOT SORRY 88. Melanie Martinez - TUNNEL VISION 94. Tyler, The Creator (feat. A$AP Rocky) - WHARF TALK 104. JISOO - FLOWER 105. Melanie Martinez - EVIL 114. Maisie Peters - Lost The Breakup 131. Melanie Martinez - THE CONTORTIONIST 149. Melanie Martinez - SPIDER WEB 151. boygenius - Not Strong Enough 153. Demi Lovato - Heart Attack - Rock Version 160. Tyler, The Creator (feat. Vince Staples) - STUNTMAN 171. Tyler, The Creator - WHAT A DAY 179. Melanie Martinez - FAERIE SOIREE 182. Tyler, The Creator - HEAVEN TO ME 190. Melanie Martinez - LIGHT SHOWER 200. boygenius - Cool About It Big Climbers 18. Tyler, The Creator - DOGTOOTH (+32) 25. Melanie Martinez - VOID (+16) 52. Paris Paloma - labour (+33) 65. Melanie Martinez - DEATH (RE) 136. Borai & Denham Audio - Make Me (RE) 141. Luke Combs - Fast Car (+50) |
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1st April 2023, 11:05 AM
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You can call me Manboy
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QUOTE(M477h3w @ Apr 1 2023, 09:01 AM) When will AIW hit ACR? Well it increased in sales this week, so not for another 3 weeks at the very least 
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1st April 2023, 11:07 AM
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the DANce
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I guess that Taylor song must've been held up by autoplay then - it's sudden 18-47 drop doesn't make sense otherwise
same with Hozier's new one, down 29-57 yay for Calvin finally reaching Spotify #1 |
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1st April 2023, 11:12 AM
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Pineapple 🍍
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Fake official chart green green grass avoid acr agin
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1st April 2023, 11:13 AM
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the DANce
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Spotify Chart Update (31/03)
 01 02 Calvin Harris, Ellie Goulding Miracle (with Ellie Goulding) 423,807 [*PEAK*]  02 01 PinkPantheress, Ice Spice Boy's a liar Pt. 2 406,250  03 03 Miley Cyrus Flowers 359,811 04 04 SZA Kill Bill 302,757 05 05 Libianca People 277,845 06 06 RAYE, 070 Shake Escapism. 267,861 335,897 comb. 07 07 Lizzy McAlpine ceilings 246,500 08 09 Taylor Swift Anti-Hero 235,795 09 08 Ed Sheeran Eyes Closed 222,892 10 10 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage Creepin' (with The Weeknd & 21 Savage) 206,077 11 11 Harry Styles As It Was 204,991 12 13 Rema, Selena Gomez Calm Down (with Selena Gomez) 201,750 13 12 Miguel Sure Thing 201,507 14 14 Coi Leray Players 193,848 15 16 David Guetta, Bebe Rexha I'm Good (Blue) 174,278 16 15 The Weeknd, Ariana Grande Die For You (with Ariana Grande) - Remix 167,105 296,207 comb. 17 17 Mae Stephens If We Ever Broke Up 166,958 18 50 Tyler, The Creator DOGTOOTH 163,374 [*PEAK*] 19 19 Tiλsto, Tate McRae 10:35 158,776 20 20 venbee, goddard. messy in heaven 154,989 21 21 Tom Odell Another Love 154,657 22 24 The Killers Mr. Brightside 153,768 23 22 OneRepublic I Ain't Worried 151,144 24 23 Strandz Us Against the World 143,890 216,956 comb. 25 41 Melanie Martinez VOID 140,313 [*PEAK*] 26 25 Digga D Energy 139,790 27 27 Central Cee LET GO 137,170 28 28 Bakar Hell N Back 134,210 29 26 Sam Smith, Kim Petras Unholy (feat. Kim Petras) 133,393 30 31 The Weeknd Die For You 129,102 31 35 Coldplay Viva La Vida 128,798 32 30 Niall Horan Heaven 127,974 33 34 Mimi Webb Red Flags 126,568 34 33 Meghan Trainor Made You Look 125,550 35 32 Chris Brown Under The Influence 124,236 36 38 Beyoncι CUFF IT 122,618 37 45 Vance Joy Riptide 122,384 [*PEAK*] 38 39 The Neighbourhood Sweater Weather 121,464 39 46 Eliza Rose, Interplanetary Criminal B.O.T.A. (Baddest Of Them All) - Edit 120,307 40 40 The Weeknd, Daft Punk Starboy 119,133  46 NE Tyler, The Creator SORRY NOT SORRY 115,049 [*PEAK*] 47 18 Taylor Swift All Of The Girls You Loved Before 113,502 52 85 Paris Paloma labour 109,202 57 29 Hozier Eat Your Young 103,868 64 78 Caity Baser Pretty Boys 98,212  65 RE Melanie Martinez DEATH 98,128 [*PEAK*] 66 58 SZA Snooze 98,003 67 70 Ayra Starr Rush 97,100 82 91 Meghan Trainor Mother 91,135 88 NE Melanie Martinez TUNNEL VISION 88,961 [*PEAK*] 89 97 Jax Jones, Calum Scott Whistle (feat. Calum Scott) 88,899 [*PEAK*] 93 82 P!nk TRUSTFALL 88,427 94 NE Tyler, The Creator, A$AP Rocky WHARF TALK (feat. A$AP Rocky) 87,744 [*PEAK*] 103 124 Switch Disco, Ella Henderson, Robert Miles REACT 85,331 [*PEAK*] 104 NE JISOO FLOWER 85,058 [*PEAK*] 114 NE Maisie Peters Lost The Breakup 82,192 [*PEAK*] 136 RE Borai & Denham Audio, Borai, Denham Audio Make Me 76,397 [*PEAK*] 141 191 Luke Combs Fast Car 75,672 [*PEAK*] 142 112 TV Girl Lovers Rock 75,653 147 176 Matt Sassari Give It To Me - Full Vocal Mix 74,518 151 NE boygenius, Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus Not Strong Enough 73,860 [*PEAK*] 153 NE Demi Lovato Heart Attack - Rock Version 73,537 [*PEAK*] 159 125 RAYE Flip A Switch. 72,850 170 136 Lil Uzi Vert, sped up nightcore, ARIZONATEARS Watch This - ARIZONATEARS Pluggnb Remix 71,216 173 150 Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, Young Thug Trance (with Travis Scott & Young Thug) 71,003 190 175 Ice Spice In Ha Mood 68,718 200 NE boygenius, Julien Baker, Phoebe Bridgers, Lucy Dacus Cool About It 68,022 [*PEAK*]
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1st April 2023, 11:15 AM
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the DANce
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Apple Music Chart Update (31/03-01/04)
01 01 Calvin Harris & Ellie Goulding - Miracle 02 02 Miley Cyrus - Flowers 03 03 Ed Sheeran - Eyes Closed 04 04 PinkPantheress & Ice Spice - Boy's a liar, Pt. 2 05 05 Switch Disco & Ella Henderson - REACT 06 06 RAYE & 070 Shake - Escapism. 07 08 Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down 08 07 Jax Jones & Calum Scott - Whistle 09 09 Libianca - People 10 10 Mimi Webb - Red Flags 11 11 Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 12 12 SZA - Kill Bill 13 14 Ayra Starr - Rush 14 13 Miguel - Sure Thing 15 18 Coi Leray - Players 16 15 The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Die For You (Remix) 17 70 Davido - UNAVAILABLE (feat. Musa Keys) 18 16 Tom Grennan - Here 19 19 Chris Brown - Under the Influence 20 23 Zara Larsson - Can't Tame Her 21 21 Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin' 22 17 Caity Baser - Pretty Boys 23 20 Mae Stephens - If We Ever Broke Up 24 22 Tiλsto & Tate McRae - 10:35 25 47 Davido - OVER DEM 26 24 venbee & Goddard - messy in heaven 27 28 FLO - Fly Girl (feat. Missy Elliott) 28 68 Davido - FEEL 29 27 Harry Styles - As It Was 30 86 Davido - NO COMPETITION (feat. Asake) 31 26 P!nk - TRUSTFALL 32 25 Lizzy McAlpine - ceilings 33 29 David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 34 30 Libianca - People (feat. Ayra Starr & Omah Lay) 35 31 Lewis Capaldi - Pointless 36 83 Davido - IN THE GARDEN (feat. Morravey) 37 33 Tom Odell - Another Love 38 32 Lewis Capaldi - Forget Me 39 38 The Killers - Mr. Brightside 40 39 Coldplay - Viva La Vida 41 34 Digga D - Energy 54 40 Hozier - Eat Your Young 56 43 Niall Horan - Heaven 70 57 Sigala, Mae Muller & Caity Baser - Feels This Good (feat. Stefflon Don) 71 53 Meghan Trainor - Mother 72 54 venbee - gutter 77 58 ArrDee & Cat Burns - Home For My Heart 80 66 SZA - Snooze 83 76 Jayo - 22 85 78 Ellie Goulding - By The End Of The Night 90 72 Luke Combs - Fast Car 96 84 Miley Cyrus - River 110 98 Nicki Minaj - Red Ruby Da Sleeze 121 107 Paul Woolford, Lewis Thompson & MNEK - 16 Again 133 150 Melanie Martinez - VOID 137 96 Nothing But Thieves - Welcome to the DCC 142 NE Cian Ducrot - Part Of Me 146 145 RAYE - Flip A Switch. 160 151 Lil Baby - Low Down 162 118 Lewis Capaldi - How I'm Feeling Now 163 166 Rita Ora - You Only Love Me 165 136 Morgan Wallen - Last Night 180 182 Adekunle Gold & Zinoleesky - Party No Dey Stop 183 155 Regard & Ella Henderson - No Sleep
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1st April 2023, 11:15 AM
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Go on Calvin
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1st April 2023, 11:22 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Amazing for Melanie!!!! Really hope "VOID" can become her first Top 40 hit, even if I would prefer it to be "EVIL"
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1st April 2023, 11:32 AM
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It's a cruel summer.
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QUOTE(danζ @ Apr 1 2023, 12:07 PM) I guess that Taylor song must've been held up by autoplay then - it's sudden 18-47 drop doesn't make sense otherwise same with Hozier's new one, down 29-57 yay for Calvin finally reaching Spotify #1 Im starting to think theres something with autoplay coming into effect for a songs 2nd week - iirc all of the two above examples, You Only Love Me, Heaven, Die For You etc all had their autoplay boost on their 2nd week of release. (And to add to this trend, potentially Labour and Heart Attack - Rock Version could be being boosted by it this week?) |
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