BuzzJack
Entertainment Discussion

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register | Help )

3 Pages V   1 2 3 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Donald Trumps arrest
Track this topic - Email this topic - Print this topic - Download this topic - Subscribe to this forum
neill2407
post Apr 9 2023, 02:11 PM
Post #1
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 769
Member No.: 159,650
Joined: 22-September 22
   No Gallery Pics
 


What are your opinions? Is this a political stunt to stop Trump from being re-elected?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Jessie Where
post Apr 9 2023, 05:52 PM
Post #2
Break the tension
********
Group: Artist Mod
Posts: 88,200
Member No.: 51
Joined: 7-March 06
 


QUOTE(neill2407 @ Apr 9 2023, 03:11 PM) *
What are your opinions? Is this a political stunt to stop Trump from being re-elected?


Only insane, deluded people think that.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
neill2407
post Apr 9 2023, 06:38 PM
Post #3
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 769
Member No.: 159,650
Joined: 22-September 22
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Apr 9 2023, 06:52 PM) *
Only insane, deluded people think that.


I am not saying it is political but was looking for a good debate. Whether you like trump or not, I thought the prosecutor was a democrat? Given the allegations are alleged to have happened in 2017, why hasnít it been brought to court sooner?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
J00prstar
post Apr 9 2023, 06:52 PM
Post #4
there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
******
Group: AF Leader
Posts: 13,030
Member No.: 22,895
Joined: 21-January 16
   No Gallery Pics
 


Because a sitting President can't be charged, no?
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Iz 🧊
post Apr 10 2023, 05:43 AM
Post #5
I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
*******
Group: Admin.
Posts: 37,364
Member No.: 12,929
Joined: 3-February 11
   No Gallery Pics
 


I doubt it's a stunt, it's an inevitable consequence of someone being rich and famous and therefore many roadblocks to charging them. They've been pursuing this for years and only stepped up the investigation once he was out of office.

of course he SHOULD be being charged for far more heinous crimes, like, idk, sedition and incitement to violence but the American justice system will never have the courage to do that, it's enough trying to get them to charge a former president at all.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
crazy chris
post Apr 12 2023, 05:26 PM
Post #6
BuzzJack Legend
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 21,990
Member No.: 53
Joined: 7-March 06
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(neill2407 @ Apr 9 2023, 03:11 PM) *
What are your opinions? Is this a political stunt to stop Trump from being re-elected?



Yes but it's having the opposite effect and he's soaring in the polls. cheer.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Doctor Blind
post Apr 12 2023, 08:59 PM
Post #7
#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
******
Group: Moderator
Posts: 16,140
Member No.: 7,561
Joined: 27-October 08
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(neill2407 @ Apr 9 2023, 03:11 PM) *
What are your opinions? Is this a political stunt to stop Trump from being re-elected?


It's not a political stunt - if it was, it would be a very stupid one as it will likely temporarily boost Trump's popularity within the more unhinged factions of Republican party and strengthen his support base. It feeds into their bizarre and frankly insane conspiracy theories. He may just stand down and decide it isn't worth the hassle running in 2024 but we, and indeed those bringing the charges, have no way of knowing how this will impact on that decision or outcome.

The wealthy and powerful aren't treated the same as the rest of us; that will be exposed in this trial, because whilst blatant and large-scale corruption from the rich occurs and goes largely unpunished, at the same time the relatively smaller and less significant crimes (occuring indirectly of these actions by the rich/powerful, as a result of increasing levels of deprivation, scarcity and wealth/health inequalities) will always disproportionately be penalised. This is because justice is served out based on who you are and how much power you have.

Trump won't be going to jail, lots of those around him have, and he'll do the usual tiresome, played-out routine of playing the victim to shore up supporters. I believe this inditement is very small fry in terms of some of the upcoming charges that could be brought against him, I suspect these legal challenges will be going on for some time, e.g. literally threatening the Georgia governor (this is on tape) to 'find votes' to overturn the result and inciting the overthrowing of the US government on 6 Jan 2021.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
neill2407
post May 9 2023, 10:29 PM
Post #8
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 769
Member No.: 159,650
Joined: 22-September 22
   No Gallery Pics
 


Well Trump was found guilty at his trial of sexual assault but not rape. Heís been fined 5 million in damages. As itís a civil case, he wonít face jail but will it impact on his presidential run? It certainly wonít stop him from running but surely this calls into question his suitability to even be running.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Smint
post May 10 2023, 10:49 PM
Post #9
BuzzJack Gold Member
*****
Group: Members
Posts: 3,434
Member No.: 124,514
Joined: 21-February 21
   No Gallery Pics
 


I think the "suitability" question was answered years ago and the fact that none of his Republican rivals dare criticise him when found guilty of sexual assault speaks volumes. What with De Santis failing to impress (thankfully as he's even worse in some ways) it means he'll be the nominee and promoting violence against minorities at every turn (hate crimes sky rockets during Election campaigns). 2024 will be very scary.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Smint
post May 11 2023, 07:46 PM
Post #10
BuzzJack Gold Member
*****
Group: Members
Posts: 3,434
Member No.: 124,514
Joined: 21-February 21
   No Gallery Pics
 


And yesterday Trump got an hour "townhall" style interview on CNN where in an audience made up of allegedly undecided and Independent voters he told lie after lie about January 6, the 2020 election result being rigged, building the alleged "wall" and also found time to call the anchor a "nasty person" and mocked the victim in the sexual assault court case that he was found guilty of yesterday. All to applause and laughs from the audience. Very ugly stuff.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Chez Wombat
post May 11 2023, 07:57 PM
Post #11
The owls are not what they seem
*******
Group: Global Mod
Posts: 36,935
Member No.: 9,232
Joined: 11-July 09
   No Gallery Pics
 


Homelander from The Boys really gets his persona spot on - he could kill a person and his deranged cult wouldn't bat an eyelid. It's pretty horrifying that there is still even a question whether he should be running, but I'm still confident that society is not at a low enough point and that there are still enough people with brains in the States that they will not elect a criminal and sex offender even if he is the nomination. It's just gonna sink the Republicans even further especially as people finally seem to be waking up to their fascist tendencies so it could even be a blessing in disguise.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
neill2407
post May 12 2023, 10:06 AM
Post #12
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 769
Member No.: 159,650
Joined: 22-September 22
   No Gallery Pics
 


I watched an interview he did on tv and it was laughable. He claims the judge in the sexual assault trial allowed the victim to present everything but his side were not given an opportunity to present their evidence but this is a man who chose not to attend his own trial to give his defence. It was full of the usual false claims which are not backed up with any evidence about the election being rigged and how he will end the Ukraine war within a day. How on earth is he going to do that? The most worrying thing was the fact he intends to allow the rioters to be pardoned if elected which sends out a message that behaviour is entirely acceptable and he has shown no remorse for his actions.

This post has been edited by neill2407: May 12 2023, 10:12 AM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Iz 🧊
post May 12 2023, 10:24 AM
Post #13
I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
*******
Group: Admin.
Posts: 37,364
Member No.: 12,929
Joined: 3-February 11
   No Gallery Pics
 


If that was the CNN town hall it's being widely condemned across American politics - a great example of how not to platform, they let him come on and talk his talking points to an audience of geriatrics who seal clap his every word. The day after he's found liable for sexual assault.

QUOTE
of course he SHOULD be being charged for far more heinous crimes, like, idk, sedition and incitement to violence but the American justice system will never have the courage to do that, it's enough trying to get them to charge a former president at all.


Add being a proven sex pest to that list.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Jessie Where
post May 12 2023, 11:04 AM
Post #14
Break the tension
********
Group: Artist Mod
Posts: 88,200
Member No.: 51
Joined: 7-March 06
 


He's the master of painting himself as a victim in any situation, and his army of sheep will just blindly follow whatever he says without question.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
neill2407
post May 12 2023, 11:24 AM
Post #15
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 769
Member No.: 159,650
Joined: 22-September 22
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(Jessie Where @ May 12 2023, 12:04 PM) *
He's the master of painting himself as a victim in any situation, and his army of sheep will just blindly follow whatever he says without question.


Very true - he reminds me of Boris Johnson. Full of baloney.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
neill2407
post Jun 9 2023, 03:55 PM
Post #16
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 769
Member No.: 159,650
Joined: 22-September 22
   No Gallery Pics
 


So Trump is being indicted for the second time. Will this impact on his chances to run for president? It will be interesting to see how this pans out. Itís unlikely to get to trial until next year anyway.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Anita Hanjaab
post Jun 9 2023, 04:56 PM
Post #17
Buffy/Charmed
*******
Group: Members
Posts: 43,570
Member No.: 18,639
Joined: 18-April 13
   No Gallery Pics
 


The UK and USA are oligarchies. The richest and most powerful are above reproach. Nothing will happen to him.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
neill2407
post Jun 9 2023, 07:53 PM
Post #18
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 769
Member No.: 159,650
Joined: 22-September 22
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(Big Fat Sue @ Jun 9 2023, 05:56 PM) *
The UK and USA are oligarchies. The richest and most powerful are above reproach. Nothing will happen to him.


Well it looks like he will fight the battle anyway but interested to see what happens. People in power can afford good legal representation and obviously that will go some way in his favour.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Iz 🧊
post Jun 10 2023, 06:33 AM
Post #19
I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
*******
Group: Admin.
Posts: 37,364
Member No.: 12,929
Joined: 3-February 11
   No Gallery Pics
 


So currently we're at 37 counts of keeping hundreds of classified documents, some of Trump's lawyers have already resigned, Trump twice disclosed national security information in 2021, and Trump is due to surrender himself to authorities on Tuesday.

He might be going to prison huh.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
neill2407
post Jun 10 2023, 03:01 PM
Post #20
BuzzJack Enthusiast
****
Group: Members
Posts: 769
Member No.: 159,650
Joined: 22-September 22
   No Gallery Pics
 


QUOTE(Iz 💀 @ Jun 10 2023, 07:33 AM) *
So currently we're at 37 counts of keeping hundreds of classified documents, some of Trump's lawyers have already resigned, Trump twice disclosed national security information in 2021, and Trump is due to surrender himself to authorities on Tuesday.

He might be going to prison huh.


He could face prison but I think itís unlikely and by the time it gets to trial, he may be re-elected and will try and strike the whole case out of court.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post


3 Pages V   1 2 3 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:


 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 27th February 2024 - 04:34 AM