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Tim Barnes
post May 19 2006, 07:03 PM
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After this latest disgrace of that disgusting country surely its time something should be done about them mad.gif





Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.

"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."

Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments."

The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.

Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth.

"There's no reason to believe they won't pass this," said Rabbi Hier. "It will certainly pass unless there's some sort of international outcry over this."

Bernie Farber, the chief executive of the Canadian Jewish Congress, said he was "stunned" by the measure. "We thought this had gone the way of the dodo bird, but clearly in Iran everything old and bad is new again," he said. "It's state-sponsored religious discrimination."

Ali Behroozian, an Iranian exile living in Toronto, said the law could come into force as early as next year.

It would make religious minorities immediately identifiable and allow Muslims to avoid contact with non-Muslims.

Mr. Behroozian said it will make life even more difficult for Iran's small pockets of Jewish, Christian and other religious minorities -- the country is overwhelmingly Shi'ite Muslim. "They have all been persecuted for a while, but these new dress rules are going to make things worse for them," he said.

The new law was drafted two years ago, but was stuck in the Iranian parliament until recently when it was revived at the behest of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

A spokesman for the Iranian Embassy in Ottawa refused to comment on the measures. "This is nothing to do with anything here," said a press secretary who identified himself as Mr. Gharmani.

"We are not here to answer such questions."

The Simon Wiesenthal Centre has written to Kofi Annan, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, protesting the Iranian law and calling on the international community to bring pressure on Iran to drop the measure.

"The world should not ignore this," said Rabbi Hier. "The world ignored Hitler for many years -- he was dismissed as a demagogue, they said he'd never come to power -- and we were all wrong."

Mr. Farber said Canada and other nations should take action to isolate Mr. Ahmadinejad in light of the new law, which he called "chilling," and his previous string of anti-Semitic statements.

"There are some very frightening parallels here," he said. "It's time to start considering how we're going to deal with this person."

Mr. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly described the Holocaust as a myth and earlier this year announced Iran would host a conference to re-examine the history of the Nazis' "Final Solution."

He has caused international outrage by publicly calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

Iran does not yet have nuclear weapons, but Tehran believed by Western nations to be developing its own nuclear military capability, in defiance of international protocols and peace treaties.

The United States, France and Israel accuse Iran of using a civilian nuclear program to secretly build a weapon. Iran denies this, saying its program is confined to generating electricity.

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As bad as this may be, there's still not a justification for military action. Anything that Iran is doing, it is doing internally, they have not attacked or invaded another sovereign state (unlike Hitler), so until if and when they actually do, then there's nowt we can do about them. Do you want another Iraq on your hands? Actually, an invasion of Iran would be even more catastrophic, a majority of Iraqis actually wanted rid of Saddam and in the first instance welcomed the coalition troops, if we so much as set foot in Iran, I seriously doubt we'd get the same welcoming population coming out to greet us, it would be a long and incredibly bloody path to Tehran with probably hundreds of thousands of casualties.... You really want that..?

There's plenty of unpleasant regimes in the world mate - Mugabe in Zimbabwe being one example, but I dont see anyone advocating an invasion there. Probably because they dont have any oil.....

The motivations of the US, Israel and France for promoting this idea of regime change in Iran are far from pure. If you ask me an Islamic country needs to have nuclear weapons to act as a counterweight to Israel. Israel moans and bitches and complains constantly about how badly they're treated, but they were the ones who made the arab palestinians refugees in their own land in the first instance, and no one ever talks about the fact that 100,000 Palestinians in Hebron were placed under house arrest and curfew (under threat of being shot) so that 450 Israeli "settlers" could have their way; so frankly, I don't give a sh!t about Israel....
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post May 20 2006, 09:40 AM
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"There's plenty of unpleasant regimes in the world mate - Mugabe in Zimbabwe being one example, but I dont see anyone advocating an invasion there. Probably because they dont have any oil....."

and they are all blacks m8, if there was discrimination against a jewish population then the west would be involved.


totaly agree scott, there is no justification yet for armed conflict. the way to go would be via the UN..
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post May 20 2006, 09:48 AM
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Yeah I was annoyed when I read this last night whereas now I have calmed down, I agree with you 2
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post May 20 2006, 10:13 AM
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i think that it would end up just being a repeat of the war in iraq
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post May 20 2006, 10:26 AM
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"There's plenty of unpleasant regimes in the world mate - Bush in America being another. Should we attack them?
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post May 20 2006, 10:32 AM
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laugh.gif This thread was done last night

I have had a change of heart since then as being of jewish origin I was very annoyed by this measure hence the posting of the thread last night

I think it should be deleted wink.gif
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post May 20 2006, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(Ozzy Osbourne @ May 20 2006, 11:32 AM) *

laugh.gif This thread was done last night

I have had a change of heart since then as being of jewish origin I was very annoyed by this measure hence the posting of the thread last night

I think it should be deleted wink.gif

Cool, that you've changed your mind! thumbup.gif

It's a thought provoking issue and I'm sure there are some people out there that might consider attacking Iraq a suitable thing to do. Leave it open for now, it may inspire more conversation, although you may like to alter your post in light of your change of heart biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Josh @ May 20 2006, 11:13 AM) *

i think that it would end up just being a repeat of the war in iraq


It would be considerably worse than Iraq, Iran is an old, historical and, despite the hotheadedness of the President, a considerably more stable state than Iraq ever was. Iran is steeped in thousands of years of history going back to the Persian and Ottoman empires. An attack on this state would be a very foolhardy thing to do.....
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post May 20 2006, 02:53 PM
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agreed, leave it open, its an ongoing and pertainent subject.
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post May 22 2006, 05:20 AM
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Its a tough subject. But i say no it would be a waste of money and George bush caring for another nation more then his own again, America is already in debt enough and we all know that if there is a war bush will be the first to butt his nose in rolleyes.gif .
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post May 22 2006, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(Allysa @ May 22 2006, 06:20 AM) *

Its a tough subject. But i say no it would be a waste of money and George bush caring for another nation more then his own again, America is already in debt enough and we all know that if there is a war bush will be the first to butt his nose in rolleyes.gif .


I hardly think you can say that George Bush actually 'cares' for Iraq, it was purely a business opportunity for all his daddy's mates in the oil industry, Iraq has been ripped off to the tune of $200 billion by those robbing Corporate b/astards...... dry.gif
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post May 22 2006, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(GRIMLY FIENDISH @ May 22 2006, 10:18 AM) *

I hardly think you can say that George Bush actually 'cares' for Iraq, it was purely a business opportunity for all his daddy's mates in the oil industry, Iraq has been ripped off to the tune of $200 billion by those robbing Corporate b/astards...... dry.gif


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post May 22 2006, 08:49 PM
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im not saying he cares for the people of iraq wink.gif
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post May 22 2006, 11:36 PM
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The sad part is the "elections" are such a sham. My best friend immigrated from Iran; he told me NONE of those lunatics were elected. The Iranian public have always been very progressive. Persian culture, philosophy, tradition, and academia is being destroyed in the name of fundamental Islam. Such a shame.
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post May 23 2006, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Consie @ May 23 2006, 12:36 AM) *

Persian culture, philosophy, tradition, and academia is being destroyed in the name of fundamental Islam. Such a shame.


Then how do you square that with the fact that far more Iranian women are going to university now than ever did under the Shah....?

Bear in mind that the Shah was not elected either, he was a US puppet installed by the CIA...
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post May 24 2006, 01:23 AM
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I did NOT defend the Shah, nor would I ever!
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post May 25 2006, 04:46 PM
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NO!
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post May 25 2006, 05:40 PM
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This isn't a place to spam Charis, your meant to give reasons for your answer.

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QUOTE(Disposable Hero @ May 25 2006, 06:40 PM) *

This isn't a place to spam Charis, your meant to give reasons for your answer.

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At least he didn't start talking about his bloody 'music career'......

That most definitely would have lead to a ban......
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