October 25, 201014 yr How is K'naan still Top 10 :o Iirc, K'naan didn't even chart in France until the week of the World Cup final and even then it was outside the top 10 and just started climbing afterwards. To think France were supposedly combining digital sales into their (extremely slow and tedious) singles sales chart in Spring 2010 this obviously hasn't been the case. This is the French iTunes chart at the moment. Bolded tracks have already charted in France: 01. Rihanna - Only Girl (In The World) 02. Shakira feat. El Cata - Loca 03. Usher feat. Pitbull - DJ Got Us Fallin' In Love 04. Martin Solveig & Dragonette - Hello 05. Shakira feat. Freshlyground - Waka Waka (This Time For Africa) 06. Eminem feat. Rihanna - Love The Way You Lie 07. Duck Sauce - Barbra Streisand (Radio Edit) 08. Mike Posner - Cooler Than Me 09. Taio Cruz - Dynamite 10. Guillaume Grand - Toi Et Moi I'd much rather see the French singles chart looking like this (ie; up to date).
October 28, 201014 yr Author French Singles Chart №43/27.10.2010 1. ( 1 ) René La Taupe - Mignon Mignon 2. ( 2 ) Shakira Feat. Freshlyground - Waka Waka (This Time For Africa) 3. ( 3 ) Mohombi - Bumpy Ride 4. ( 4 ) Eminem Feat. Rihanna - Love The Way You Lie 5. ( 5 ) Yolanda Be Cool & DCup - We No Speak Americano 6. ( 7 ) Taio Cruz - Dynamite 7. ( 6 ) Enrique Iglesias Feat. Pitbull - I Like It 8. ( 8 ) K'Naan - Wavin' Flag 9. ( 9 ) Inna Feat. Bob Taylor - Déjà Vu 10. ( 11 ) Bébé Lilly - 1, 2, 3 Soleil 11. ( 10 ) Katy Perry Feat. Snoop Dogg - California Gurls 12. ( 12 ) Collectif Métissé - Debout Pour Danser 13. ( 13 ) Jessy Matador - Allez Ola Olé 14. ( 15 ) Antoine Clamaran Feat. Soraya - Live Your Dreams 15. ( 14 ) Inna - Amazing 16. ( 16 ) Jean-Roch - My Love Is Over 17. ( 18 ) Laurent Wolf Feat. Andrew Roachford - Survive 18. ( 19 ) Tom Frager & Gwayav' - Home 19. ( 17 ) Justin Bieber & Ludacris - Baby 20. ( 20 ) David Guetta / Chris Willis , Fergie & LMFAO - Gettin' Over You
October 28, 201014 yr :mellow: Isn't it just!!! :rolleyes: If France actually had a more respectable singles chart then it wouldn't have such a static effect on the Hitstastic European Top 30 I compile (see my sig :P ). Thus all the new tracks clearly doing well on French iTunes (like Rihanna) would be charting and having a bigger impact on the HET30. Alas, at this rate we'll be lucky to see Rihanna 'Only Girl' even chart in France in 2010!!! :lol: (watch it enter in January 2011 :zzz: ).
October 28, 201014 yr This chart is a combination of sales, downloads & airplay. ...but it's not an official singles chart? 27 24 7 RENÉ LA TAUPE - MIGNON MIGNON 15 Says everything. -_-
October 28, 201014 yr Says nothing I would say. It's bought by a few people, but this track is never been played on the radio. It's not in the top of the download charts. The French sales chart makes me laugh. :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: By the way RENE L. peaked on #7 a few weeks ago. It's just another interpretation of the facts I guess. Edited October 28, 201014 yr by Chartboost
October 28, 201014 yr I guess you're right Dré, but a combined chart as the French National top-50 gives me a better view of the French musicscene.
October 29, 201014 yr Says nothing I would say. It's bought by a few people, but this track is never been played on the radio. It's not in the top of the download charts. The French sales chart makes me laugh. :w00t: :w00t: :w00t: By the way RENE L. peaked on #7 a few weeks ago. It's just another interpretation of the facts I guess. By "says everything", that is the exact point I was making. The no. 1 physical selling single in France this week is practically out of the top 30 when everything else is taken into considering. It's literally the no. 1 in France by default (and it's hidious even for a silly novelty song which at least 'La Papa Penguin' in 2007 was fairly funny).
October 29, 201014 yr Hits, just use the download chart instead ;) Is there an official French download chart? Would it be posted in the sub-forum?
October 29, 201014 yr Is there an official French download chart? Would it be posted in the sub-forum? Yes there is, a top50. You can find it here http://www.chartsinfrance.net/charts/titre...echargement.php
October 30, 201014 yr By "says everything", that is the exact point I was making. The no. 1 physical selling single in France this week is practically out of the top 30 when everything else is taken into considering. It's literally the no. 1 in France by default (and it's hidious even for a silly novelty song which at least 'La Papa Penguin' in 2007 was fairly funny). But Chartboost's chart is a joke, too. At least the German one doesn't really give "a good view at the German music scene"... I think no chart with airplay included does. Edited October 30, 201014 yr by AshDeluxe
October 30, 201014 yr But Chartboost's chart is a joke, too. At least the German one doesn't really give "a good view at the German music scene"... I think no chart with airplay included does. First: The German Chart isn't MINE as you say. Second: The charts from APC-stats gives us a better view on the entire music scene in a country. You may think only sales give a good reflection of it, but I have another idea of it. Physical, downloads, album sales and airplay combined in one chart gives me a better view. Also the German chart in my opinion. I'm not the only one here. Kieran about the British National Top-50: "What a fresh new way to look at the charts. Very interesting indeed. I like how this chart looks at a new aspect of sales and airplay" Edited October 30, 201014 yr by Chartboost
October 30, 201014 yr First: The German Chart isn't MINE as you say. Second: The charts from APC-stats gives us a better view on the entire music scene in a country. You may think only sales give a good reflection of it, but I have another idea of it. Physical, downloads, album sales and airplay combined in one chart gives me a better view. Also the German chart in my opinion. I'm not the only one here. Kieran about the British National Top-50: "What a fresh new way to look at the charts. Very interesting indeed. I like how this chart looks at a new aspect of sales and airplay" Maybe it's not your chart but posting these charts is everything you do... anyway: Physicals & downloads: of course Airplay: In Germany most radio stations usually don't play the songs that most people love but those that most people don't hate. I don't think that you really can measure popularity by radio airplay. Album sales: No! Really, really no. How do you know which songs are the reason for people to buy an album? Album sales shouldn't be included in a singles chart. That's what album charts are for. Edited October 30, 201014 yr by AshDeluxe
October 30, 201014 yr Album sales: No! Really, really no. How do you know which songs are the reason for people to buy an album? Album sales shouldn't be included in a singles chart. That's what album charts are for. I know this is the official French singles chart thread but I personally think individual album tracks selling as singles has become a powerful way of promoting an album. Ie; last year we had tracks like 'Poker Face' and 'I Gotta Feeling' both selling off the back of their parent albums being released. If cherry picking didn't exsist (ie; all tracks were "album only") then there's no way that Lady GaGa and Black Eyed Peas would've sold over a million downloads with their respected singles. Alas, the UK's biggest selling single so far this year is 'Love The Way You Lie' - another track that has benefitted from album sales. If 'LTWYL' had been made "album only" it wouldn't have sold nearly three quarters of a million. This is just something that we have to accept; individual tracks sell but albums don't - unless said act had already built up a big fanbase, and even then it's not guaranteed to sustain sales over a couple of months. The UK album chart in 2010 has been very fast paced - sort of like the UK singles chart ten years ago.
October 30, 201014 yr You're absolutely right. But I don't think that these sales are meant as "album sales". They already fall in the category "digital sales"...
October 31, 201014 yr To Ashdeluxe & Hittastic: I contacted the chartmanager from APC-stats. It's a small Dutch market research firm. I asked him what PDA & AAS means. Their system to compile the major European charts and the Euro 200. The answer I got was in the Dutch language. I try to translate the major aspects so far. PDA stands for: Physical sales (only singles), Download sales (singles & tracks), Airplay (singles & tracks). AAS stands for: Additional Album Sales. This means that singles & tracks in the PDA-charts which are on an album in the Album charts become a bonus. The reason they give is that people who don't buy singles, but only albums still affect the single & tracks chart. That's why APC-stats publishes only single & tracks charts and no specified singles-sales, download or airplay-charts. The chartmanager mentioned some examples from album-tracks (also mentioned in airplay & download charts) which had no single sales. Iron Maiden - El Dorado (#27 Euro 200) Peter Gabriel - Book of Love (#17 Euro 200) I must say it's a total new view on the world of charts. Maybe we must give them a chance don't you think?
November 2, 201014 yr Who knows if people who buy an album also like the single that's in the chart right now? Nobody can guarantee this, so a chart based on that kind of data is only speculative. In times like these where more people than ever pass on buying an album and instead cherry pick the songs they like the most, something like this really isn't necessary.
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