I must ask my parents about the Ken Dodd song - I barely knew he had any songs released, never mind the biggest selling of 1965! :mellow:

Ken Dodd charted 18 top 40 hits between 1960 and 1975. All of which are instantly forgettable :lol:

Ken Dodd charted 18 top 40 hits between 1960 and 1975. All of which are instantly forgettable :lol:

 

LOL. :rofl: :rofl:

 

Well, I disliked 'Tears' a great deal. However, I think that the follow-up - 'The River',

is a very beautiful Song. It was originally an Entry in the San Remo Festival, for

Wilma Goich, in 1965. Her version is much better than his. She is Italian, & the original

Title is, 'Le Colline Sono In Fiore'

 

Ken Dodd took it to No.3, here. Many Hits by 'square', (as in 'uncool'), Acts from

the 1960's, (& 1950's), are really very beautiful Songs. I never dismiss Music just because

the Act is regarded as uncool. I always judge Music on a Song by Song basis.....

 

My only real dispute about Ken Dodd, is that some Journalists now think that only The Beatles

sold more UK Records than him, in the 1960's! Such Journalists are so dumb, that I bet

they have notices at the top of their ladders saying, 'Stop!'.....

Rolf Harris didn`t sell much over 600,000 in 1969. Most of his sales were in 1970. The Archies sold more in 1969, so can drop around 100,000 for 1970 at least. Both do not belong in the 1960s top 20. We think the Archies are nearer to Cathy`s Clown & Rolf may not belong in the top 60 at all.

 

I got a list for 1950s, that Paul Burnett counted down a few years back. I`ll post it at some point. Did you do one, Colin? Based on the 50s, I mean? The problem with sales figures in those days is that, when the shops supplied them to the compilers i.e. NME/RR/RM/MM/DISC ete, they only supplied there shop sales in chart form. All the compilers did was average the shops charts out, rather similar to the BBC`s idea.

Dave, your postings of old sales lists are invaluable. I look forward to the 1950s post when you have the time.

Does anyone have an accurate cumulative sales figure for "You'll Never Walk Alone"?

 

Perhaps its recent resurgence might take it up towards or even over the 1,000,000 mark in the next week or two?

 

I suspect that it might get a mention or two in Monday's chart reports.

Edited September 16, 201212 yr by Blackjane

Does anyone have an accurate cumulative sales figure for "You'll Never Walk Alone"?

 

Perhaps it's recent resurgence might take it up towards or even over the 1,000,000 mark in the next week or two?

 

I suspect that it might get a mention or two in Monday's chart reports.

 

Apparently it's sales are just over 800k, although less than 835k:

 

http://fatherandy2.proboards.com/index.cgi...719&page=24

I've always thought, I stand to be corrected though, that"sales" pre BMRB don't really exist in the way we mean now, and that wee complied on a points based system (obviously stemming from sales) on an amalgamation of various charts. Certainly the year end charts pre 69 were compiled in this manner.

In various all-time charts since 1972, the position of Gerry and the Pacemakers' You'll Never Walk Alone relative to other songs has consistently suggested sales of between 750,000 and 800,000. A very long time ago (before I noted sources) I read that it had shipped 775,000 copies.

 

By comparing various positions in The Top 60 of the Sixties broadcast on Radio 2 on 31st May 2010, I would estimate 785,000 copies during the 1960s (roughly 720,000 during 1963 and about 65,000 in 1964).

 

The original track was released on the Columbia label. There was a reissue on EMI in Nov 1973 and Pentagon in May 1977, and Old Gold in both Oct 1983 and 1991, none of which charted. A conservative estimate of catalogue physical sales would be 20,000 to 30,000.

 

On 15th June 2009, Music Week reported sales of downloads and this track had sold around 65,000 in five years. This is just over 10,000 each year during the download era, which would be 100,000 to date. And OCC reported today (16th Sep) that it had sold 28,000 from Friday to Saturday this week.

 

My estimate is between 900,000 and 920,000 plus this week's chart sales.

Edited September 16, 201212 yr by SimonW

Thanks for the feedback. It will be interesting to see if anything is confirmed in the MW reports tomorrow.