July 17, 200619 yr Author Well, I can't really add much to this thread, just to say I learnt a lot. I had no idea really how the term 'dance' come about and had previous, falsely, thought it was all encompassing.
July 17, 200619 yr Me neither really, but that's how the term "Dance" is used nowadays. And the "dance" forum here in Buzzjack was created to include all the subgenres of the modern definition of "dance", including Eurobeat, Eurodance, etc. Edited July 17, 200619 yr by skizzo
July 17, 200619 yr NO!! Dance was never used at this time as a term until the underground sounds of the Rave scene started coming to the fore in the late 80s..... Read my lips - There never was a 'Dance' genre as such until this very important thing happened in the late 80s.... Now, can we please stop with all the revisionism.....? true, 'dance' as a generic term is quite recent. however like you said it was refered to as 'disco' from its emergance in the 70's and through the 80's. as a genre it was pretty lame and it wasnt until the rave scene kicked off that 'dance' as a generic title became the norm. however things have evolved, and if most of the disco acts then were out in the 90's they would be called 'dance'. im not trying to re-write history, but 'europop' clearly belongs under the 'dance' umbrella, which encompasses all forms of music specific to dancing. obviously there is an overlap with 'pop', but its still part of the dance genre.
July 17, 200619 yr true, 'dance' as a generic term is quite recent. however like you said it was refered to as 'disco' from its emergance in the 70's and through the 80's. as a genre it was pretty lame and it wasnt until the rave scene kicked off that 'dance' as a generic title became the norm. however things have evolved, and if most of the disco acts then were out in the 90's they would be called 'dance'. im not trying to re-write history, but 'europop' clearly belongs under the 'dance' umbrella, which encompasses all forms of music specific to dancing. obviously there is an overlap with 'pop', but its still part of the dance genre. I just cant agree that Eurobeat belongs to the Dance genre and I'll never accept these tacky 90s Disco bands or their modern counterparts are either, because quite simply 'Dance' as a genre was defined by what happened during the Rave era and the resulting fall-out, and it was the DJs who started it all off, none of these early 90s "Eurobeat" acts had a history of being involved in the Rave circles because they were manufactured by some producer, same goes for most of their modern counterparts... It's 'Disco' or 'Pop', it aint 'Dance'. We all knew this back in the day, we knew that 'Dance' was different to 'Jungle/Drum and Bass' and 'Jungle/Drum and Bass' was different to 'Trip Hop', totally different sounds, totally different attitudes. But now the whole thing has just gotten confused and lumped together like some huge square peg trying to be jammed into a round hole... Simply having a Drum machine and a sequencer and a 'repetitive beat' does NOT make you a 'Dance' act any more than plugging in a guitar and cranking up the distortion pedal a bit makes you a Heavy Metal band or wearing black and writing depressing lyrics makes you a Goth; otherwise we'd be including the likes of Sugababes, Kylie, Skinny Puppy, Cubanate or Front Line Assembly in the 'Dance' category....
July 17, 200619 yr otherwise we'd be including the likes of Sugababes, Kylie, Skinny Puppy, Cubanate or Front Line Assembly in the 'Dance' category.... didnt the sugababes win 'best dance act' at the brits the other year? :lol: well ive never been that interested in dance anyway, but if mtv dance plays an act then as far as im concerned, its a dance track.
July 17, 200619 yr Well, I can't really add much to this thread, just to say I learnt a lot. I had no idea really how the term 'dance' come about and had previous, falsely, thought it was all encompassing. i thought Dance term came about because its a music people dance too? i did read that the terms House and Garage both come from gay clubs that featured lots of black men. The Warehouse and The Paradise Garage. Some bloke called Larry is supposed to be an important DJ dude :down: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...pic=10587&st=20
July 17, 200619 yr didnt the sugababes win 'best dance act' at the brits the other year? :lol: well ive never been that interested in dance anyway, but if mtv dance plays an act then as far as im concerned, its a dance track. Yeah, they did.. Utterly ludicrous, and perfectly illustrates my point as to how the whole thing has become confused and muddied and seriously needs a sort of 'artistic cleansing' as it were to excise all the pop and disco c**p.... <_< Dont rely on ruddy MTV to illuminate you on anything Rob, these clueless fukkers labour under the impression that My Chemical Romance are Metal and Marilyn Manson is Goth..... :lol: :lol:
July 18, 200619 yr the point is though scott, that like it or not, all genres have changed from their original meaning... take 'garage' for eg... europop might be pop, but its pop you can dance too... however i take your point about its origins.
July 18, 200619 yr the point is though scott, that like it or not, all genres have changed from their original meaning... take 'garage' for eg... True, but if you look at, say, Metal, just to pick an example out of the air, that has certainly gone through a hell of a lot of seed changes over the years, but there is absolutely no ambiguity whatsoever as to what essentially defines the genre, whether it be Old Skool Metal, Nu Metal, Black Metal, Thrash Metal, Goth Metal, Death Metal or whatever...
July 18, 200619 yr True, but if you look at, say, Metal, just to pick an example out of the air, that has certainly gone through a hell of a lot of seed changes over the years, but there is absolutely no ambiguity whatsoever as to what essentially defines the genre, whether it be Old Skool Metal, Nu Metal, Black Metal, Thrash Metal, Goth Metal, Death Metal or whatever... yep.... but if the term 'dance' had first have been coined in the 60's or even the 70's then all forms of dance orientated music would have been unambiguously put in this genre.
July 18, 200619 yr yep.... but if the term 'dance' had first have been coined in the 60's or even the 70's then all forms of dance orientated music would have been unambiguously put in this genre. Moot point mate, because it wasn't..... :lol:
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