August 30, 201014 yr And Im pretty sure calling someone a racist prick is against the rules of these forums? Or is it 1 rule for some, another rule for others?
August 30, 201014 yr OK My opinion is if you are claiming benefits, you should have a valid reason why and be able to prove it. Having 12 kids does not count as a valid reason Well, I'd say being made redundant or not being able to find a job is a perfectly valid reason... People do have to prove they have valid reasons for claiming JSA, they also have to prove they're actively seeking work, in fact it's more difficult for them to get benefits than it is for some stupid teenager who cant be arsed to stay in full time education or gets themselves up the duff.... Which is pretty messed up seeing as how people who lose their jobs are the most likely to be the ones who have paid into the system... So, are you really gonna electronically tag people such as this or say that "well, your benefits are gonna stop after 12 months" especially in the current environment when a person could easily find themselves jobless for over a year, especially if they're in their 40s and 50s and have likely paid into the tax and NI system for 20 years or more... Bollocks to that, it's out of order, end of story....... I've not had to claim benefits for about 15 years, but I'm smart enough to know that seeing as how I work in universities, I could conceivably end up being in that position sooner or later, and damn right I'd object to intrusive snooping techniques like the ones Craig is advocating because I've paid plenty into the system and they can fukk right off.....
August 30, 201014 yr Well each case is clearly different. And no, people who have paid into the system for years should be allowed benefits if they are able to prove they are looking for work, I didnt say they couldnt. However, I object to chavvy scum claiming benefits like teenage mums. These people should be sterilised.
August 30, 201014 yr And Im pretty sure calling someone a racist prick is against the rules of these forums? Or is it 1 rule for some, another rule for others? As far as I'm concerned Craig should've been perma-banned ages ago (unless you think that openly stating that exterminating entire races and culling Haitian earthquake victims just because they're poor or referring to Irish people and Polish people in derogatory terms is something you should have on a Forum such as this...), so I'll say what the hell I like to him (I mean, obviously he's thick skinned enough to take it anyway...), because I dont think he should even BE here after the sh"t he's caused.....
August 30, 201014 yr As far as I'm concerned Craig should've been perma-banned ages ago (unless you think that openly stating that exterminating entire races and culling Haitian earthquake victims just because they're poor or referring to Irish people and Polish people in derogatory terms is something you should have on a Forum such as this...), so I'll say what the hell I like to him, because I dont think he should even BE here after the sh"t he's caused..... But 2 wrongs dont make a right :(
August 30, 201014 yr Well each case is clearly different. And no, people who have paid into the system for years should be allowed benefits if they are able to prove they are looking for work, I didnt say they couldnt. However, I object to chavvy scum claiming benefits like teenage mums. These people should be sterilised. Well, then you and Craig aren't exactly on the same page then..... Seeing as how he'd make people such as this suffer indignities that you clearly dont really support or go along with... I think in the case of "Chavvy" teenage mums, well, everyone's allowed to make ONE mistake (one pregnancy can be construed as an "accident", but not multiple ones with multiple partners), but that's it... Perhaps run a China-style policy of one kid/pregnancy but that's it.....
August 30, 201014 yr But I still like Craig and dont agree with calling him racist or a prick. Edited August 30, 201014 yr by Shelli Louise Po
August 30, 201014 yr Yes I agree with China The Chinese Govt did that more to control population I must stress (but then I guess more people = more drain on resources anyway, so it probably would have had economic purposes too).. Mind you, let's face it, the Chav/Feral brat population of this country probably needs to be controlled a fair bit too..... :lol: :lol:
August 30, 201014 yr But I still like Craig and dont agree with calling him racist or a prick. Well, it's pretty much a fact that he's a racist... I would say openly advocating the extermination of a race firmly puts you in the "racist" camp, Hitler tried to exterminate the Jews (and how do you like this for irony, Craig is JEWISH...), would you deny he was racist..? And people who hold these sorts of views generally, in my experience, tend to be pricks anyway..... :lol:
August 30, 201014 yr Well, it's pretty much a fact that he's a racist... I would say openly advocating the extermination of a race firmly puts you in the "racist" camp, Hitler tried to exterminate the Jews (and how do you like this for irony, Craig is JEWISH...), would you deny he was racist..? And people who hold these sorts of views generally, in my experience, tend to be pricks anyway..... :lol: I still heavily deny the fact that I am a racist :) My only "racism" if you want to call it that was aimed at Palestinians and that was not remotely because they are arabs but because they elected a terrorist organisation that blew up a friend of mine, I have nothing whatsoever against muslims, arabs, blacks, asians etc infact I regularly praise asians on here for being hard working for instance. I also hate the BNP as much if not more than anyone on BJ, if I was a general racist I would be voting for the BNP Apart from my extreme dislike of Hamas and its supporters I am anything but a racist
August 30, 201014 yr I still heavily deny the fact that I am a racist :) My only "racism" if you want to call it that was aimed at Palestinians and that was not remotely because they are arabs but because they elected a terrorist organisation that blew up a friend of mine, I have nothing whatsoever against muslims, arabs, blacks, asians etc infact I regularly praise asians on here for being hard working for instance. I also hate the BNP as much if not more than anyone on BJ, if I was a general racist I would be voting for the BNP Apart from my extreme dislike of Hamas and its supporters I am anything but a racist Your comments hardly limited themselves to Hamas.... DONT try and make out like you're innocent.... Seriously dude, your rather revisionist views of events would do David Irvine and the Holocaust Deniers proud... You probably only dislike the BNP because they're not overly fond of Jews themselves, but you support the wholesale stealing of Arab land by Israeli "settlers" who basically force people off their land in much the same way the colonialists did with the Native Americans and the Aborigines in Australia.... You also supported basically "repatriating" (ie ethnic cleansing) of Palestinians to Jordan.... Hamas are not a terrorist group, they are fighting Israeli occupation in much the same way as the French Resistance did with Nazi occupation in the 1940s..... Palestinians voting for Hamas is not different to Irish Catholics voting for Sinn Fein over here... So, unless you want to argue that all Irish Catholics be exterminated for voting for Sinn Fein..... -_- How far do you wanna take it Craig..? By your standards, I guess everyone in this country should be exterminated by Muslim extremists because 40% of the voting population voted back the Nu Labor govt in 2005 after the illegal war in Iraq...... :rolleyes:
August 30, 201014 yr My only "racism" if you want to call it that was aimed at Palestinians and that was not remotely because they are arabs but because they elected a terrorist organisation that blew up a friend of mine, And seriously, stop trying to score pity points with this story... It's getting tiresome.... "My friend got killed, so I want all Palestinians to be exterminated" is basically the thrust of your oh-so-innocent commentary, and dont try to make out like it's not, you've got no guile or sense of humanity in you whatsoever, certainly nowhere near as much as that guy who lost his family to an IRA bomb and very calmly and with much dignity forgave the bombers, certainly didn't go on a rant and say "bloody Catholics, kill the lot of them"..... I guess if my friend gets mugged and put into a coma by black muggers that would entitle me to believe all black people should be exterminated.... Prat...
August 30, 201014 yr And seriously, stop trying to score pity points with this story... It's getting tiresome.... "My friend got killed, so I want all Palestinians to be exterminated" is basically the thrust of your oh-so-innocent commentary, and dont try to make out like it's not, you've got no guile or sense of humanity in you whatsoever, certainly nowhere near as much as that guy who lost his family to an IRA bomb and very calmly and with much dignity forgave the bombers, certainly didn't go on a rant and say "bloody Catholics, kill the lot of them"..... I guess if my friend gets mugged and put into a coma by black muggers that would entitle me to believe all black people should be exterminated.... Prat... You still see racism that isn't there, this time last week you were reporting me to admin for racism towards boat people, as a week has passed with no word from management I would guess that common sense has prevailed and that they accept that there was no racism there. You are almost obsessed with outing me as a racist tbf, I was supposedly racist for making a tongue in cheek comment about poles eating swans, I was supposedly racist because I thought muslims should face extra security checks and scanners at airports, I was supposedly racist for god knows how many things yet the only times I have been punished have been for my Palestinian comments on this board so Palestine aside I haven't got a racist bone in my body It looks from Rob's profile that he has left, whether that is due to me coming back I have no idea, if his leaving is due to me coming back then that is very juvenile, I fully intend to stay within board rules and be an active member for years to come
August 30, 201014 yr And seriously, stop trying to score pity points with this story... It's getting tiresome.... "My friend got killed, so I want all Palestinians to be exterminated" is basically the thrust of your oh-so-innocent commentary, and dont try to make out like it's not, you've got no guile or sense of humanity in you whatsoever, certainly nowhere near as much as that guy who lost his family to an IRA bomb and very calmly and with much dignity forgave the bombers, certainly didn't go on a rant and say "bloody Catholics, kill the lot of them"..... I guess if my friend gets mugged and put into a coma by black muggers that would entitle me to believe all black people should be exterminated.... Prat... Different people deal with different things in different ways, there is no textbook way of handling things, some deal with things through drugs or alcohol or self harm or religion or reading or whatever so the fact that I developed a vengeful dislike of Hamas and their supporters is just the way it is, others may have handled things differently If your friend was mugged by black muggers and left in a coma I would UNDERSTAND a hatred of black people, it would not mean that necessarily it was right but I would understand why feel the way you would.
August 30, 201014 yr You still see racism that isn't there, this time last week you were reporting me to admin for racism towards boat people, as a week has passed with no word from management I would guess that common sense has prevailed and that they accept that there was no racism there. You are almost obsessed with outing me as a racist tbf, I was supposedly racist for making a tongue in cheek comment about poles eating swans, I was supposedly racist because I thought muslims should face extra security checks and scanners at airports, I was supposedly racist for god knows how many things yet the only times I have been punished have been for my Palestinian comments on this board so Palestine aside I haven't got a racist bone in my body It looks from Rob's profile that he has left, whether that is due to me coming back I have no idea, if his leaving is due to me coming back then that is very juvenile, I fully intend to stay within board rules and be an active member for years to come Dont flatter yourself, Rob leaving has got fukk all to do with you, it's personal reasons, and I certainly wont be furnishing the likes of you with any details.... I've had lots of complaints from others on this forum about you regarding racism.. I've not initiated any of these proceedings off my own back, they've been as a result of others PMing me and directing me to offensive posts you've made. As for your LAST temp ban, that was down 100% to Rob.... If you honestly think that I'm the only one on Perspectives who thinks you're a racist and your comments are offensive, you're delusional, there's plenty of others on Perspectives who have an equally low opinion of you and your comments..... The only reason people respond to your posts is to blast them to pieces.... And well, Danny, Tyron, Suedehead, etc do a pretty damned effective job of undermining your arguments.....
August 30, 201014 yr If your friend was mugged by black muggers and left in a coma I would UNDERSTAND a hatred of black people, it would not mean that necessarily it was right but I would understand why feel the way you would. No, it's not justified in any way. A group of black kids doing stupid sh"t doesn't mean that all black kids are gonna do stupid sh"t... It just so happens a friend of mind DID get attacked and robbed by a group of black youths once a while back... But both he and myself have got enough bloody sense to know that they're not representative of the majority of black people, who are perfectly law abiding... Christ knows there's plenty of white or asian kids out there who act like scum and would do exactly the same sort of sh"t as these guys did, so race has nothing to do with it, people are just sh"ts sometimes, there is no one race or ethnic group out there who are somehow more likely to be sh"ts than any other, every group in society has its sh"t element...
August 30, 201014 yr Dont flatter yourself, Rob leaving has got fukk all to do with you, it's personal reasons, and I certainly wont be furnishing the likes of you with any details.... I've had lots of complaints from others on this forum about you regarding racism.. I've not initiated any of these proceedings off my own back, they've been as a result of others PMing me and directing me to offensive posts you've made. As for your LAST temp ban, that was down 100% to Rob.... If you honestly think that I'm the only one on Perspectives who thinks you're a racist and your comments are offensive, you're delusional, there's plenty of others on Perspectives who have an equally low opinion of you and your comments..... The only reason people respond to your posts is to blast them to pieces.... And well, Danny, Tyron, Suedehead, etc do a pretty damned effective job of undermining your arguments..... This snitching and grassing up etc does seem a bit like school :rolleyes: as adults we should all be able to handle each others views and respect each others opinion however abhorrent that opinion might be to some people, I am guessing that the PM's are not from regulars to this forum but outsiders who are too namby pamby and PC to be able to handle strong views, if I had committed racism (am not talking about Palestine here) I would be long since out the door so the fact that I am not out shows that fortunately the powers that be do not share the opinion of over sensitive PC brigade and that is great :) News/Perspectives should be about strong robust debate among adults, the PC p*ssy's should not look in this section if they are easily offended and sensitive, infact I would love to see this section be "anything goes", I would love to see a holocaust denier come on here and air their views, I would love to see a BNP member come on here and give their side of the story for example. The fact that non regulars to this forum are lurking and finding excuses to be offended so that they can play school snitch says a lot more about them than it does about me People want to see REAL racism ? they should have a browse of Stormfront then come back and tell me I am a racist Edited August 30, 201014 yr by I ❤ JustinBieber
August 30, 201014 yr This snitching and grassing up etc does seem a bit like school :rolleyes: as adults we should all be able to handle each others views and respect each others opinion however abhorrent that opinion might be to some people, I am guessing that the PM's are not from regulars to this forum but outsiders who are too namby pamby and PC to be able to handle strong views, if I had committed racism (am not talking about Palestine here) I would be long since out the door so the fact that I am not out shows that fortunately the powers that be do not share the opinion of over sensitive PC brigade and that is great :) News/Perspectives should be about strong robust debate among adults, the PC p*ssy's should not look in this section if they are easily offended and sensitive, infact I would love to see this section be "anything goes", I would love to see a holocaust denier come on here and air their views, I would love to see a BNP member come on here and give their side of the story for example. The fact that non regulars to this forum are lurking and finding excuses to be offended so that they can play school snitch says a lot more about them than it does about me People want to see REAL racism ? they should have a browse of Stormfront then come back and tell me I am a racist Well, you'd be entirely wrong in that assumption.... And you could hardly accuse Rob of being "PC", he wanted you gone the last time as much as anyone... The ONLY reason you're still here is because Slick, for some unfathomable reason, thinks the sun shines out of your arse.... And that's it.... Yeah, you sure have him fooled.... Admin are the only ones who want you here, no bugger else does.... ESPECIALLY the regulars.... I've no problems with robust or Un-PC views (whatever that means), you cross the line though, too often, in fact you probably dont even see the line anymore... You might think it's a joke, but not everyone else does... And your last comments about boat people insulted at least ONE Australian on the Mods forum who was pretty damned livid that you presumed to speak for their entire nation.... So, there you go mate, face it, no one likes your offensive, extremely jaundiced comments.... Stormfront...? What's that then? A racist site...? Sounds to me you'd be more at home there than here......
August 30, 201014 yr Well, you'd be entirely wrong in that assumption.... And you could hardly accuse Rob of being "PC", he wanted you gone the last time as much as anyone... The ONLY reason you're still here is because Slick, for some unfathomable reason, thinks the sun shines out of your arse.... And that's it.... Yeah, you sure have him fooled.... Admin are the only ones who want you here, no bugger else does.... ESPECIALLY the regulars.... I've no problems with robust or Un-PC views (whatever that means), you cross the line though, too often, in fact you probably dont even see the line anymore... You might think it's a joke, but not everyone else does... And your last comments about boat people insulted at least ONE Australian on the Mods forum who was pretty damned livid that you presumed to speak for their entire nation.... So, there you go mate, face it, no one likes your offensive, extremely jaundiced comments.... Stormfront...? What's that then? A racist site...? Sounds to me you'd be more at home there than here...... I just could not imagine Suedehead, Danny, Tyron sending PM's to you, much as I strongly disagree with their political views they are all mature people Slick gave me I think a 4 in the Rate so again that was hardly a overwhelming endorsement of me but it is good that he and others have the maturity to accept that despite errors of judgement I contribute a lot to this board and my presence despite having my moments is a positive thing. Rob was just doing his job, as a mod of the forum he did what he had to do as I violated the rules, that is what the forum mod's job is so I would have expected nothing else there But if someone has an issue with my views then they should post it in the relevant THREAD, the Australian mod instead of running off to you or whatever should have posted his views on the boat people and how HE would deal with the situation, if he is who I am guessing he is then he knows me well enoigh to know I am not an Australian and have no mandate to speak on behalf of the Australian people, his input as an Australian would have been welcomed as opposed to huffing and puffing and running off to you. Stormfront is a neo nazi board, really not my cup of tea tbh
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