That's the criteria I use as well.

:wub:

 

I just don't like him. It doesn't have to be covered in fur, I really like Adam from Hurts :kink:

The first more in-depth set of odds I've seen this year (from William Hill)

 

4/1 Norway

6/1 Estonia

7/1 Germany

10/1 Denmark

12/1 Azerbaijan

12/1 Greece

12/1 Bosnia Herzegovina

16/1 Ireland

16/1 United Kingdom

20/1 Finland

20/1 Romania

22/1 Switzerland

25/1 Turkey

28/1 Austria

33/1 Poland

40/1 Georgia

40/1 Serbia

40/1 Moldova

40/1 Slovenia

50/1 Albania

50/1 Iceland

50/1 Belgium

66/1 Hungary

66/1 Malta

66/1 Spain

66/1 Cyprus

66/1 The Netherlands

66/1 Belarus

66/1 Latvia

66/1 France

80/1 Italy

100/1 Lithuania

100/1 Bulgaria

100/1 Macedonia

 

:o Look at Estonia go! I can understand Haba Haba still being top, it's definitely the most instant song in this year's contest as a complete package - i.e. musically and visually. Very good odds for Germany again too! I'd be inclined to put Denmark joint first I think also at 4/1 and Greece need to be FAR lower. A little unfair on Serbia perhaps? 40/1 seems like a very appealing each way bet at this stage. Switzerland surprisingly high!

Greece are up there on history alone. There is no way they'll be troubling the top ten this year! Well...the quality all round isn't exactly amazing this year, so they actually could. I'm hoping for something good from Azerbaijan. Hope they don't win though, they're clearly going to do a Russia and keep sending immense songs until they do...

Well they said that about Russia last year :lol: Don't get me wrong, I hated Lost And Forgotten (it should have been) but I quite like Watch My Dance, even if I wish they'd went for Hamogela if they wanted a blokes-rapping moment.

Well they said that about Russia last year :lol: Don't get me wrong, I hated Lost And Forgotten (it should have been) but I quite like Watch My Dance, even if I wish they'd went for Hamogela if they wanted a blokes-rapping moment.

Lost and Forgotten was hideous, but if you look at its points breakdown, you can see how it got where it did...

 

Azerbaijan 3

Moldova 10

Belarus 12

Ukraine 10

Armenia 10

Israel 10

Estonia 10

Latvia 8

Lithuania 5

 

It also got points from Turkey and Slovakia, but that only equalled ten points. The thing with Russia is that they're virtually guaranteed 80 points every year regardless of what they sent, and even with jury votes included. If it was merely televotes, they'd be getting ten or 12 from all of the above countries, so another 20 or so would be added on.

 

Indeed, when I made my full prediction for last year's contest, it looked like this:

 

01. Armenia 219

02. Germany 211

03. Greece 200

04. Turkey 167

05. Romania 150

06. Azerbaijan 142

07. Denmark 136

08. Israel 127

09. Belgium 101

10. Ireland 98

11. Russia 97

12. Serbia 86

13. Norway 80

14. Ukraine 76

15. Georgia 59

16. Iceland 58

17. Bosnia-Herzegovina 46

18. Albania 43

19. Moldova 37

20. Cyprus 35

21. Spain 24

22. Belarus 22

23. United Kingdom 19

24. Portugal 16

25. France 13

 

I wasn't too far out with Russia! We won't comment on much of the rest though. :lol:

Massive update from PaddyPower, now that they have all countries listed...

 

Norway 7/2

France 4/1

Germany 5/1

Estonia 6/1

Russia 6/1

United Kingdom 11/1

Azerbaijan 12/1

Ireland 12/1

Sweden 12/1

Bosnia-Herzegovina 12/1

Denmark 12/1

Greece 20/1

Finland 20/1

Romania 20/1

Poland 20/1

Hungary 20/1

Turkey 20/1

Austria 25/1

Israel 25/1

Armenia 25/1

Switzerland 25/1

Slovakia 33/1

Slovenia 33/1

Ukraine 33/1

Georgia 40/1

Serbia 50/1

Croatia 50/1

Belgium 50/1

Moldova 50/1

Cyprus 50/1

Spain 66/1

Iceland 66/1

Latvia 66/1

Malta 66/1

Albania 66/1

Netherlands 66/1

Italy 80/1

Portugal 80/1

Bulgaria 100/1

San Marino 100/1

Lithuania 100/1

FYR Macedonia 100/1

Belarus 100/1

 

Might I also add, that I had my first ESC dream of the year last night, and it was Austria who won!

I have an overwhelming feeling that I'm going to be crushingly disappointed when I hear Blue's song tomorrow night :drama:

 

and :lol: David, I've never had an ESC dream (that I can recall) in my life!

 

4/1 is amazing for France, wow :o

I have an overwhelming feeling that I'm going to be crushingly disappointed when I hear Blue's song tomorrow night :drama:

I have this feeling in the back of my mind too, but still excited nonetheless! I'll be pretty pissed when I hear it anyway, so will probably quite like it regardless.

Let's see what happens to the UK odds now :D

UK shortened to 6/1! France now favourites at 7/2 and Norway second at 5/1 - another big 4 win? :o

Big 5, you i-refuse-to-put-Italy-in-the-Big-5 :kink:

Big 5, you i-refuse-to-put-Italy-in-the-Big-5 :kink:

 

Whatever, I'd completely forgotten they were even back, they've turned up with such a nothing of an entry :lol:

GOOOOOOOOO NORWAY :cheer:

Whatever, I'd completely forgotten they were even back, they've turned up with such a nothing of an entry :lol:

RACISM.

 

:kink:

 

Follia D'amore is AMAZING. :( And i'm not even a jazz fan! :o

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I'm surprised that France are the current favourites, top 10 yes, juries yes, but I don't know if it will have enough appeal to tele-voters to win overall.

^ It's a great song IMO one of my favorites

The French entry is so depressing and dreary.

France is good, but I can't really see it winning after having a good long think. I'm thinking another Patricia Kaas-esque result for the French, and their third decent result in a row.

Out of everything we've heard, UK are actually my tip for the top at the moment :o

 

San Marino, let's face it, won't be bringing a winner to the table, so it's up to Sweden, Azerbaijan and Russia to spoil the party, with the latter obviously having the best chance.