...but Eminem IS an idiot - an MTV created pop star who appeals to teenage white males of limited intelligence... teenage white males whose intelligence doesn't encompass irony.... what a crazy thing to do - be in a position of that much power and influence - then spout of hate-filled, sexist, homophobic c**p like Marshall does - then tried to dodge the flak by saying "Oh, but I'm only singing in character". Do you think these teengaeers REALLY thing he's playing a character when Eminem is telling them to abuse and burn up homosexuals?

 

Of course not.

 

Oh please... pop fan - you're discussing a musical genre you know NOTHING about.

 

Why bother? You're ignorant, stupid, shallow, vapid, ill-informed, ill-educated, illiterate, tasteless and stupid.

 

End of, eh? Accept when you've been outsmarted - you have - get over it.

 

100% in agreement mate.

 

 

 

...but Eminem IS an idiot - an MTV created pop star who appeals to teenage white males of limited intelligence... teenage white males whose intelligence doesn't encompass irony.... what a crazy thing to do - be in a position of that much power and influence - then spout of hate-filled, sexist, homophobic c**p like Marshall does - then tried to dodge the flak by saying "Oh, but I'm only singing in character". Do you think these teengaeers REALLY thing he's playing a character when Eminem is telling them to abuse and burn up homosexuals?

 

Of course not.

 

Oh please... pop fan - you're discussing a musical genre you know NOTHING about.

 

Why bother? You're ignorant, stupid, shallow, vapid, ill-informed, ill-educated, illiterate, tasteless and stupid.

 

End of, eh? Accept when you've been outsmarted - you have - get over it.

 

how am i i ignorant??? tasteless eh

 

whoa when did eminem say abuse and burn up homosexuals?

 

i think eminem changed and didn´t he perform

"Stan" at the grammys with Elton John??

so im sure they don´t take verything eminem says seriously

 

i like eminem he´s ****ing crazy and soooooo conctroversial

hmmm this reminds me of a certain pop queen whos been

makig music in over 20 years or more yes im talking about

Madonna i looove that b**ch :P

 

100% in agreement mate.

 

 

Erhm..... well good for you ****

how am i i ignorant??? tasteless eh

 

whoa when did eminem say abuse and burn up homosexuals?

 

i think eminem changed and didn´t he perform

"Stan" at the grammys with Elton John??

so im sure they don´t take verything eminem says seriously

 

i like eminem he´s ****ing crazy and soooooo conctroversial

hmmm this reminds me of a certain pop queen whos been

makig music in over 20 years or more yes im talking about

Madonna i looove that b**ch :P

 

Madonna has been controversial in her career, that's certainly true, but she's actually been controversial for a purpose, there's actually an idea behind the things she's done. Eminem is a bit like Tracey Emin or Damian Hirst, out to shock and cause controversy for no purpose or reason whatsoever; an attention-seeking media slag, in short..

 

Cant blame him though really, it sure sells him a lot of records in Trailer Parks all over America (and Sweden as well it would seem...)

 

Madonna has been controversial in her career, that's certainly true, but she's actually been controversial for a purpose, there's actually an idea behind the things she's done. Eminem is a bit like Tracey Emin or Damian Hirst, out to shock and cause controversy for no purpose or reason whatsoever; an attention-seeking media slag, in short..

 

Cant blame him though really, it sure sells him a lot of records in Trailer Parks all over America (and Sweden as well it would seem...)

 

i madonna was an attention seeking woman too

you can´t deny that "Justify My Love" video "Erotoca" video

thos were hot videos i loove how she took that "sausage"

in her mouth and well you know......

 

and the sex book holy $h!t that was very controversial in

1992 she got sooooo much $h!t for it it was unbelievable

 

damn i wish i could find that sex book somewhere

not because im desperate but because i wanna see what was all the hype around it

especially the girl on girl action i looove that.

 

whoa when did eminem say abuse and burn up homosexuals?

 

“I’m ready to make everyone’s throats ache. You faggots keep egging me on till I have you at knife point, then you beg me to stop?â€

 

“My words are like a dagger with a jagged edge. And I’ll stab you in the head, whether you’re a fag or les. A homosex, hermaph, or a transeves. Homophobic? Hey fags, the answer’s yes. Nah, you’re just heterophobic.â€

 

...Peter Tatchell has the last say:

EMINEM PROMOTES PREJUDICE

 

“His homophobic jibes help make bigotry cool and acceptableâ€

Grammy and Brit Awards condemned for rewarding prejudice

 

“Eminem’s lyrics send out mixed messages, some positive but most negative. Whatever his intention, he reinforces prejudice, instead of undermining itâ€, said Peter Tatchell of the gay rights group, OutRage!.

 

Tatchell was speaking in advance of the US rap star’s UK tour, which begins on 8 February 2001.

 

Almost every track on Eminem’s album, Marshall Mathers, contains violent threats to beat, burn and kill “faggotsâ€.

 

His rap Kill You warns:

“You faggots keep eggin me on

til I have you at knifepoint, then you beg me to stop?â€

 

On the track Remember Me? Eminem sings menacingly:

“**** THAT!…you faggots can vanish to volcanic ash

And re-appear in hell with a can of gas, AND a matchâ€

 

And his song Marshall Mathers boasts:

“I'll knock you ****in faggots the **** outâ€

 

“These inflammatory lyrics encourage bigots who hate queersâ€, said Tatchell. “Some of his fans have sent me hate mail saying things like: ‘Eminem is right, all you queers should be killed’â€.

 

“It is sick the way he jokes and fantasies about raping ‘bitches’ and ‘faggots’. In Britain, an estimated one million gay people have been victims of queer-bashing violence, and last year over 7,000 women were raped and more than 20,000 were sexually assaultedâ€.

 

Tatchell and OutRage! have condemned the nomination of Eminem at the prestigious Grammy and Brit music awards:

 

“The Grammy and Brit Award judges are two-faced hypocrites. They would never give air-time, let alone an award nomination, to a singer who fantasised about the murder of black peopleâ€, says Tatchell.

 

“If Eminem rapped about killing blacks, cutting their throats, suffocating them in the boot of a car and dumping their bodies in a river, he would be hounded out of the music industry. By nominating him for an award, the judges are signalling their toleration of misogyny and homophobiaâ€.

 

“His bigoted sneers give homophobia a veneer of coolness, which colludes with the twisted prejudices of maladjusted young straight menâ€.

 

“Eminem’s abusive depiction of women and gay people looks like a tacit endorsement of queer-bashing and domestic violence. He has never attempted to distance himself from his hateful lyrics. If it is all just an exploration of dark fantasies, why doesn’t he come out and say so? It is significant that he has declined requests to condemn hate crimes against women and gay peopleâ€.

 

“Eminen is undoubtedly talented. But talent is no excuse for bigotryâ€.

 

“He plays at being a macho bad boy who dares to break the rules. But he doesn’t cuss black people or rap about them being killed. He’s a coward who picks on easy targets – women and gay menâ€.

 

“Eminem shafts gay people while sucking up to the big boys of gangster rapâ€.

 

“If Eminem was really into challenging political correctness, he would diss black people with the same enthusiasm that he disrespects homosexuals and women. But he doesn’t dare abuse the black community because he is scared of their reactionâ€, said Tatchell.

 

“Eminem appears to be very insecure about his sexual identity. Are the homophobic elements of his songs a bid to prove his masculinity and heterosexuality? His macho pose often comes across as a masquerade to disguise inner turmoil and confusionâ€.

 

“It is evident from his abusive relationships with his mother and wife that he doesn’t like women. Like many misogynistic gay men, Eminem would rather hang out with the boys. That’s why he loves the macho world of rap. It’s an all-male scene, where the brothers chill together united in their disrespect for womenâ€.

 

“It is easy to imagine Eminem as a woman-hating, repressed gay manâ€, added Tatchell.

 

..and is he gay himself...?

 

IS EMINEM QUEER?

 

He sings about hating faggots, but styles himself like a gay man

 

“Is Eminem queer?â€, asks Peter Tatchell of the gay rights group OutRage!.

 

“If I saw a man like him in the street, I would probably assume he was gayâ€.

 

“Eminem certainly looks and dresses queer. His short-cropped, bleached blonde hair, earrings, tattoos and white vests are typical gay club fashion. It would be easy to mistake him for a gay manâ€.

“For someone who says he hates fags, Eminem is totally obsessed with gay sex. Almost every track on his Marshall Mathers album has a reference to homosexuality, much of it dwelling on oral and anal sex. This fascination with gay sexuality begs the question: Why? If he loathes homosexuality, why does keep rapping about it all the time?â€

 

“There is no evidence that he is gay, but his image and lyrics do make me wonderâ€.

 

Tatchell’s comments come on the eve of Eminem’s UK tour, starting on 8 February 2001.

 

“Eminem’s abusive, violent homophobic fantasies suggest a deep, inner unease with his own sexuality. Well-adjusted heterosexual men don’t care if other guys are gay or straight. Their response is: live and let liveâ€.

 

“Does Eminem fit the stereotype of the homophobic repressed gay man?â€

 

“Eighty per cent of aggressively homophobic men are self-loathing, repressed homosexuals, according to Prof Henry Adams of the University of Georgiaâ€.

 

“His research, published by the American Psychological Association in 1996, tested men who were strongly anti-gay, and who claimed they were totally heterosexual. He wired these men to a penile-circumference measuring device and showed them gay sex videos. Prof Adams found that eight out of ten of these homophobic men became sexually aroused (got an erection) while watching the gay vidoesâ€.

 

“Prof Adams concluded that men who express strongly anti-gay attitudes are usually expressing a fear and loathing of their own repressed homosexual feelings. Homophobia is mostly a displaced, disordered form of homosexuality, where the person attempts to deny their queer desires to themselves and to othersâ€.

 

“Eminem may be an exception to the general rule that most homophobes are self-hating gays. But he seems very insecure about his manhood. Why else would he resort to such over-the-top macho, homophobic posturing? His ostentatiously anti-gay lyrics look like a desperate attempt to prove his masculinity and heterosexuality.

 

“It is evident from his abusive relationships with his mother and wife that he doesn’t like women. Like many misogynistic gay men, Eminem would rather hang out with other guys. That’s why he loves the macho world of rap. It’s an all-male scene, where the brothers chill together united in their disrespect for womenâ€.

 

“It is not hard to imagine Eminem as a woman-hating, self-loathing, repressed gay manâ€, said Tatchell.

 

..and is he gay himself...?

 

IS EMINEM QUEER?

 

He sings about hating faggots, but styles himself like a gay man

 

“Is Eminem queer?â€, asks Peter Tatchell of the gay rights group OutRage!.

 

“If I saw a man like him in the street, I would probably assume he was gayâ€.

 

“Eminem certainly looks and dresses queer. His short-cropped, bleached blonde hair, earrings, tattoos and white vests are typical gay club fashion. It would be easy to mistake him for a gay manâ€.

“For someone who says he hates fags, Eminem is totally obsessed with gay sex. Almost every track on his Marshall Mathers album has a reference to homosexuality, much of it dwelling on oral and anal sex. This fascination with gay sexuality begs the question: Why? If he loathes homosexuality, why does keep rapping about it all the time?â€

 

“There is no evidence that he is gay, but his image and lyrics do make me wonderâ€.

 

Tatchell’s comments come on the eve of Eminem’s UK tour, starting on 8 February 2001.

 

“Eminem’s abusive, violent homophobic fantasies suggest a deep, inner unease with his own sexuality. Well-adjusted heterosexual men don’t care if other guys are gay or straight. Their response is: live and let liveâ€.

 

“Does Eminem fit the stereotype of the homophobic repressed gay man?â€

 

“Eighty per cent of aggressively homophobic men are self-loathing, repressed homosexuals, according to Prof Henry Adams of the University of Georgiaâ€.

 

“His research, published by the American Psychological Association in 1996, tested men who were strongly anti-gay, and who claimed they were totally heterosexual. He wired these men to a penile-circumference measuring device and showed them gay sex videos. Prof Adams found that eight out of ten of these homophobic men became sexually aroused (got an erection) while watching the gay vidoesâ€.

 

“Prof Adams concluded that men who express strongly anti-gay attitudes are usually expressing a fear and loathing of their own repressed homosexual feelings. Homophobia is mostly a displaced, disordered form of homosexuality, where the person attempts to deny their queer desires to themselves and to othersâ€.

 

“Eminem may be an exception to the general rule that most homophobes are self-hating gays. But he seems very insecure about his manhood. Why else would he resort to such over-the-top macho, homophobic posturing? His ostentatiously anti-gay lyrics look like a desperate attempt to prove his masculinity and heterosexuality.

 

“It is evident from his abusive relationships with his mother and wife that he doesn’t like women. Like many misogynistic gay men, Eminem would rather hang out with other guys. That’s why he loves the macho world of rap. It’s an all-male scene, where the brothers chill together united in their disrespect for womenâ€.

 

“It is not hard to imagine Eminem as a woman-hating, self-loathing, repressed gay manâ€, said Tatchell.

 

 

DaMN!!!! those lyricsi don´t know to say thats just soooooo

Whoa.

 

i don´t think eminem is gay he´s too straight to be gay

and i admit sometimes eminem is way too controversial about his lyrics but

oh well what can we do seriously???

i think calling eminem a gay will just p*** him off more and we know what happens when eminem get really mad he will destroy any person on his next album wit some really harshand very hurts

full comments thank goodness he´s never dissed the backstreet boys

once and never more.

hey russt68 thanks fro the article

You're welcome - now I hope you see where I'm coming from re. his unacceptable lyrics.

 

He may think he's writing from someone else's perspective - a large percentage of his legions of teenage fans don't.

think this has run its course..

 

dino, this is a retro lounge, therefore you will be mixing with older music lovers who clearly have far more experience/knowlege then you do (that doesnt mean that your views arnt vallied, to you), but you clearly have little concept of the way music evolved and what inspired it where the concept and why it was created.

 

whilst i would fully agree that hip hop is very pertainent to the poorer areas of america, the sounds and lyrics personify life for those people.. it is just out of place in middle england, or sweden for that matter! lol.

 

its appeal is about young kids rebeling, well guess what?... weve seen it all before... indeed my generation (the punk generation) were masters of it! :lol: