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It isn't happening, regardless of what the odds say. I can almost guarantee you that Jedward won't finish in the top three.
Well the top will be tight, your not exactly putting yourself on the line by saying top 3. I've invested £30 in them for the interest since my Hungry bet seems to have gone sideways.

Well...I've run through the voting and come out with this. :wacko: I'm tired, excuse any bizarre errors. I've been saying France are going to win for days, but I'm beginning to doubt their ability to landslide it now. The last three winners have all been ahead by a pretty high margin, and have all been pretty modern songs... Fourth year in a row wouldn't be too surprising at all... In all honesty though, I really don't know, and now the fact that I'm predicting Germany so high is making me even more confused!

  1. United Kingdom 278
  2. France 257
  3. Germany 243
  4. Azerbaijan 232
  5. Russia 174
  6. Denmark 141
  7. Estonia 135
  8. Hungary 132
  9. Sweden 130
  10. Ukraine 115
  11. Austria 105
  12. Ireland 93
  13. Greece 82
  14. Bosnia-Herzegovina 67
  15. Serbia 65
  16. Italy 38
  17. Romania 35
  18. Georgia 33
  19. Slovenia 29
  20. Finland 28
  21. Moldova 22
  22. Iceland 21
  23. Switzerland 19
  24. Lithuania 13
  25. Spain 7
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I'm seeing Germany third given their draw now actually...and there's no way Iceland will be bottom five.

My prediction for the final, the best I got it was in 2007 when I got the top 4 spot on and in the correct order :funky: But don't expect that this year...

 

1. France

2. United Kingdom

3. Russia

4. Denmark

5. Sweden

6. Estonia

7. Azerbaijan

8. Germany

9. Ireland

10. Hungary

11. Bosnia-Herzegovina

12. Greece

13. Serbia

14. Ukraine

15. Austria

16. Iceland

17. Romania

18. Finland

19. Georgia

20. Switzerland

21. Italy

22. Moldova

23. Slovenia

24. Lithuania

25. Spain

 

I do still think that France will beat the UK, not sure by how much though, I'd dearly love for it to be the other way round - I DO think that this will be the top two though, and have done for many months now. The draw hasn't convinced me otherwise. I don't think Lena will pick up quite the support that others think but top ten looks very possible. There isn't a whole lot for the East to throw their weight behind, and a lot of them have got terrible draws, so I think Russia will hoover up a lot of those votes and get top three. Considering they won with Believe (which is imo inferior to Get You) and came 11th with that turd last year, I can't see them missing the top five this year.

 

Any of Denmark, Sweden, Estonia and Azerbaijan could complete the top five, but Denmark's rousing anthem will stand out from where it's performing and it could be 4th place for the 2nd year in a row for them. Sweden will hopefully return to their favourite position of 5th place and Eric Saade will be one of the talking points of the night no matter what happens but I am wondering if I'm letting my own opinion of the song get in the way and overrating it :unsure: Estonia should comfortably finish top ten, could squeak into the top five but the vocals have been a bit off and the draw isn't in her favour. Azerbaijan I'm perhaps predicting dangerously low here, but Austria are really going to show them up imo. And then Germany, Ireland (yes I do think it'll go top ten) and fan favourite Hungary to just about get into that top ten.

 

Poor Bosnia-Herzegovina will have been killed off a little by their draw, but I still wouldn't have predicted higher than 8th for it in any circumstance. Greece and Ukraine don't have great entries but their usual support will push them up, although hopefully not to the top ten for once this year. Serbia, Austria and Iceland should all benefit from good draws, but only to the respect of getting mid-table results I think, I'd be surprised to see any of them higher - although elated for Austria of course - as much as I love the song though, it seems to be Nadine getting the hype as opposed to her song. Romania, Finland and Georgia are all dark horses whom I'd not be surprised to find any of 5-10 places higher than I've predicted. Switzerland is perhaps TOO simple to make an impact, bordering on forgettable, but it won't come last. Italy as well might do a bit better than I'm predicting, but not that much better - 15th at best. I'm praying that Moldova don't do any better than bottom five but they might well do. Slovenia have a great draw and I don't know why I'm putting them so low, I just can't imagine votes flocking in from them for many places sadly :( And then Lithuania and Spain are surely the bottom two.

I sort of agree with you but surely those who vote for pretty man singing a pop tune will vote Sweden instead of Russia? I know they have the Eastern support behind but still. And I would put Bosnia in top 5 as the song is amazingly strong. It might even win the jury vote. And don't forget Dino Merlin is huge star in Balkan area.

 

I still don't get Azerbaijan at all but maybe Europe in general will.

 

My prediction:

 

1. France

2. Estonia

3. United Kingdom

4. Denmark

5. Bosnia-Herzegovina

6. Sweden

7. Azerbaijan

8. Russia

9. Serbia

10. Ukraine

11. Germany

12. Hungary

13. Finland

14. Greece

15. Romania

 

No idea about the rest...

 

My favourites are Bosnia, Estonia and Hungary but can't see any of them winning sadly. Bosnia is too classy, Estonia too edgy and Hungary lacks the oooh-factor despite being very good.

Edited by SKOB

 

Why are the big 5 the big 5 again? And why was the orders done by cards and not balls in a hidden pot, that could be like picking the bottom card from a deck.

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I'm not really seeing them in the top ten either.

 

It's already top ten on iTunes in Sweden and rapidly climbing everywhere else (top 40 in Germany!), they'll surely be top ten? I don't think the juries will be as mean as we expect and they'll storm the public vote no doubt. I'm saying 9th for now but as high as low top five wouldn't surprise me now :o

 

And whilst it will be great for Ireland to get their best result since the 90s, I also think that the act most famous for being X Factor's biggest novelty act doing well (I think they had more impact than Chico and Wagner personally) will just reinforce the dated/unfair view in the UK that it's a joke contest not to be taken seriously :(

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Why are the big 5 the big 5 again? And why was the orders done by cards and not balls in a hidden pot, that could be like picking the bottom card from a deck.

The order was done by balls in a pot...

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01 France

02 United Kingdom

03 Germany

04 Russia

05 Azerbaijan

06 Denmark

07 Ukraine

08 Iceland

09 Sweden

10 Bosnia-Herzegovina

11 Serbia

12 Estonia

13 Ireland

14 Georgia

15 Finland

16 Greece

17 Switzerland

18 Austria

19 Romania

20 Slovenia

21 Moldova

22 Hungary

23 Spain

24 Italy

25 Lithuania

 

That said, pretty much any of 3rd to 13th are interchangable, and pretty much any of 14th to 22nd are interchangable. The only thing I'm pretty certain on is that France, the UK and Russia will be top five and Lithuania will be bottom five.

01 France

02 United Kingdom

03 Germany

04 Russia

05 Azerbaijan

06 Denmark

07 Ukraine

08 Iceland

09 Sweden

10 Bosnia-Herzegovina

11 Serbia

12 Estonia

13 Ireland

14 Georgia

15 Finland

16 Greece

17 Switzerland

18 Austria

19 Romania

20 Slovenia

21 Moldova

22 Hungary

23 Spain

24 Italy

25 Lithuania

 

That said, pretty much any of 3rd to 13th are interchangable, and pretty much any of 14th to 22nd are interchangable. The only thing I'm pretty certain on is that France, the UK and Russia will be top five and Lithuania will be bottom five.

 

22nd for Hungary? Explain yourself :o

Two words: Hera Bjork.

 

She didn't do as badly as that, and from what I've seen What About My Dreams seems to be far more loved across the board than Je Ne Sais Quoi was. I can see it coming somewhere in between the fortunes of Shady Lady and Hero, no higher than 8th, no lower than 14th.

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She didn't do as badly as that, and from what I've seen What About My Dreams seems to be far more loved across the board than Je Ne Sais Quoi was. I can see it coming somewhere in between the fortunes of Shady Lady and Hero, no higher than 8th, no lower than 14th.

Hera came 18th and had a later draw. 5th isn't great to begin with, and I can see Wolfie getting massively overshadowed by the next six tracks sadly. :( I do say that 14th to 22nd are pretty much interchangable though, and I wouldn't be hugely surprised if she came top ten (I'd be ecstatic), but I'm not seeing it happening for her.

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Didn't Shady Lady finish second? :unsure:

Indeed, and Hero finished 18th...

Hera came 18th and had a later draw. 5th isn't great to begin with, and I can see Wolfie getting massively overshadowed by the next six tracks sadly. :( I do say that 14th to 22nd are pretty much interchangable though, and I wouldn't be hugely surprised if she came top ten (I'd be ecstatic), but I'm not seeing it happening for her.

 

We'll see. Maybe I'm being optimistic with top ten but I don't see it missing the top 15 whatever happens. I don't remember than fans all uniting to go so over the top about a song for years, the loons (the ones who voted for it 10/20 times in the semi for example :lol:) will ensure it doesn't flop too hard. It's far more worshipped than Je Ne Sais Quoi ever was.

 

And with that in mind, I feel like a flop schlager fan that it's never gone higher than 5th in my rankings :o But it did click properly this week so maybe it's just a late bloomer for me.

 

Indeed, and Hero finished 18th...

 

Exactly, 8th-14th is between 2nd and 18th!

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