http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-...72703-28297962/

 

Can we all say the words - HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF..... <_<

 

Of course, seeing as how there's no Miners, Ship-builders or Steelworkers anymore for Ca-MORON to send the Gestapo (oh, sorry, meant to say, the Police...) after, I guess he'll be targetting Nurses, Doctors, Teachers and Posties.... -_-

 

...Oh, and ironically the Police too....

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12672329

 

So, howabout our Boys and Girls in Blue start waking up to the fact that they're gonna get the shaft as well, bet they're feeling WELL sick that they kettled the students instead of joining in.......

No one is telling the councils what to spend the money on so the blame lies with the councils.

 

If the councils made sufficient back office savings, collected taxes, cut managers, cut executive pay and especially got rid of all the pointless positions they recruited in the Guardian maybe they would have enough money for school milk !!

 

Labour run councils are cutting frontline services to discredit the government.

Labour run councils are cutting frontline services to discredit the government.

 

Well, I don't think that's true and, if it were, it would be foolish for the same reason you gave - the councils are in charge of their spending and will be judged on it.

No one is telling the councils what to spend the money on so the blame lies with the councils.

 

If the councils made sufficient back office savings, collected taxes, cut managers, cut executive pay and especially got rid of all the pointless positions they recruited in the Guardian maybe they would have enough money for school milk !!

 

Labour run councils are cutting frontline services to discredit the government.

 

The Labour-run councils have been ordered to make the biggest cuts by the Tory-Lib Dem government.

Well, I don't think that's true and, if it were, it would be foolish for the same reason you gave - the councils are in charge of their spending and will be judged on it.

 

Wouldn't be so sure fella.

 

GRIMLY FIENDISH is clearly blaming the government and millions of others will too when it is up to the local authority how the money is spent.

No one is telling the councils what to spend the money on so the blame lies with the councils.

 

If the councils made sufficient back office savings, collected taxes, cut managers, cut executive pay and especially got rid of all the pointless positions they recruited in the Guardian maybe they would have enough money for school milk !!

 

Labour run councils are cutting frontline services to discredit the government.

Have you seen the size of the section of the Guardian with local government jobs recently? It's tiny and has been for the last few years. These "pointless" positions are another Daily Mail myth.

If the councils made sufficient back office savings, collected taxes, cut managers, cut executive pay and especially got rid of all the pointless positions

 

That is absolute fantasist, Daily Fail/Torygraph SH"TE.... But well done for falling right into it.... Yeah, as IF making a few people redundant or lowering a few salaries could POSSIBLY make up for a £109 million shortfall and that's just ONE COUNCIL (Manchester).... Seriously, are you falling for that line of crap...??

 

The Government ARE responsible because they are giving absolutely NO TIME WHATSOEVER to these councils to actually bring in cuts gradually... This process should be done over a period of a few YEARS as Labour (and the fukkin' FIB DEMS as well by the way, there was NOTHING in their manifesto about doing things this quickly either..) were planning, not a few MONTHS..... <_< <_<

 

And, frankly, did you even READ the full article text?? If you had, you might just have noticed this line....

 

 

Newcastle City Council and Newcastle Primary Care Trust said they have no choice but to end the free milk scheme after the coalition scrapped funding behind it.

 

Kinda suggests that it was, in actual fact, a CENTRAL government initiative as opposed to a LOCAL one... -_-

That is absolute fantasist, Daily Fail/Torygraph SH"TE.... But well done for falling right into it.... Yeah, as IF making a few people redundant or lowering a few salaries could POSSIBLY make up for a £109 million shortfall and that's just ONE COUNCIL (Manchester).... Seriously, are you falling for that line of crap...??

 

The Government ARE responsible because they are giving absolutely NO TIME WHATSOEVER to these councils to actually bring in cuts gradually... This process should be done over a period of a few YEARS as Labour (and the fukkin' FIB DEMS as well by the way, there was NOTHING in their manifesto about doing things this quickly either..) were planning, not a few MONTHS..... <_< <_<

 

And, frankly, did you even READ the full article text?? If you had, you might just have noticed this line....

Newcastle City Council and Newcastle Primary Care Trust said they have no choice but to end the free milk scheme after the coalition scrapped funding behind it.

 

Kinda suggests that it was, in actual fact, a CENTRAL government initiative as opposed to a LOCAL one... -_-

 

A report yesterday said that Manchester City council had failed to collect 10% of council tax from the residents. That is a serious amount of money being lost through negligence.

 

Before I left I lived in London and the amount of climate change officers, diversity officers, gay and lesbian officers, outreach co-ordinators and other meaningless special interest positions there were was shocking. Sack all of those and put the money saved towards frontline services.

Have you seen the size of the section of the Guardian with local government jobs recently? It's tiny and has been for the last few years. These "pointless" positions are another Daily Mail myth.

 

Even one is one too many

 

One outreach co-ordinator on 35 grand a year would pay for a lot of school milk.

A report yesterday said that Manchester City council had failed to collect 10% of council tax from the residents. That is a serious amount of money being lost through negligence.

 

Before I left I lived in London and the amount of climate change officers, diversity officers, gay and lesbian officers, outreach co-ordinators and other meaningless special interest positions there were was shocking. Sack all of those and put the money saved towards frontline services.

 

Yeah, okay, make MORE people unemployed moron, then even LESS tax will get collected because people will go on benefits.... DUHHHHH

 

The fundamental point is why the fukk should ordinary people be put out of work and have their services cut for the sins committed by ONE industry and an inept, so-called "democratic" system that seems incapable or unwilling to actually hold them to account for it....? Oh, and also making the bloody Corporation Tax dodgers pay (because what they owe the country is truly shocking and runs into the scores of BILLIONS....). Also, how about ending dodgy offshore tax havens in Jersey and Guernsey...?

I think some of the cuts are disgusting.

 

But.

 

What would people prefer? Higher taxes? Some people would accept that but say the government made no cuts and put 5p (or even 2p) on the basic rate of income tax - there would be absolute uproar.

 

If you live beyond your means you can get into trouble. Labour lived beyond their means and the country has gotten into trouble.

 

Yes, you could keep borrowing, keep spending - but given the world we live in, that would cause no end of problems on a world scale.

 

The current government should be doing a lot (not all, though) of things differently. But Labour caused most of the problems in the first place. How anyone can not see that is bizarre.

The country didn't get into trouble because Labour lived beyond their means. Labour having a £31bn structural deficit in 2007 (one of the lowest in the OECD) didn't cause the global financial crisis you know.

The delightful financial system is the reason we have a massive national debt.

 

I have to question why we bailed them out. If they are all based in the City of London and pay no corporation tax as a result, why wasn't the City of London the one bailing them out? They really did have their cake and eat it there.

The delightful financial system is the reason we have a massive national debt.

 

I have to question why we bailed them out. If they are all based in the City of London and pay no corporation tax as a result, why wasn't the City of London the one bailing them out? They really did have their cake and eat it there.

 

When Brown bailed out the banks they took stakes in the banks which ultimately when sold will probably be sold for quite a healthy profit for the government so in the end I think that it will turn out to be the best thing.

 

The £8bn tax receipt surplus reported a couple of days ago, the likely £10bn+ from the sale of the 4G network, future sales of the government stakes in the banks. Gideon is going to have rather a healthy war chest for pre election tax cuts.

The country didn't get into trouble because Labour lived beyond their means. Labour having a £31bn structural deficit in 2007 (one of the lowest in the OECD) didn't cause the global financial crisis you know.

 

So they didn't borrow more than was prudent? They didn't make any financial mistakes at all?

 

 

So they didn't borrow more than was prudent? They didn't make any financial mistakes at all?

 

In mid-2008, the UK's deficit was only 2.5% of GDP, and we were one of the least indebted countries in the world. Consequently, because Labour's spending levels were so low until then, the Conservatives fully supported Labour's spending plans (in late 2007, George Osborne accused the government of underspending on schools and health).

 

It was from late 2008 that the UK deficit started ballooning thanks to bailing out the banks and by stimulating the economy with the VAT cut and things like roadbuilding programmes, in order to keep High Street shops open and keep people in jobs. If the Tories had been in power during that time and not done those things, we might've had a lower deficit, but we'd also have had far higher unemployment. Even so, after all was said and done, Labour left office with the UK in lower levels of debt than the USA, France and Germany - and none of them are going anywhere near as far and as fast with cuts.

 

I'll fully accept Labour were too lax with bankers and let them cause this mess - but so were the Tories (who never once between 1997 and 2008 criticised Labour for too little regulation) and many other countries' governments. But I don't accept that Labour "overspent". The Tory line that Britain is "bankrupt" just isn't true.

In mid-2008, the UK's deficit was only 2.5% of GDP, and we were one of the least indebted countries in the world. Consequently, because Labour's spending levels were so low until then, the Conservatives fully supported Labour's spending plans (in late 2007, George Osborne accused the government of underspending on schools and health).

 

It was from late 2008 that the UK deficit started ballooning thanks to bailing out the banks and by stimulating the economy with the VAT cut and things like roadbuilding programmes, in order to keep High Street shops open and keep people in jobs. If the Tories had been in power during that time and not done those things, we might've had a lower deficit, but we'd also have had far higher unemployment. Even so, after all was said and done, Labour left office with the UK in lower levels of debt than the USA, France and Germany - and none of them are going anywhere near as far and as fast with cuts.

 

I'll fully accept Labour were too lax with bankers and let them cause this mess - but so were the Tories (who never once between 1997 and 2008 criticised Labour for too little regulation) and many other countries' governments. But I don't accept that Labour "overspent". The Tory line that Britain is "bankrupt" just isn't true.

This.

 

I am absolutely sick of the Coalition lazily trotting out the same old excuses of "we inherited such a mess". They're only making it worse and all i can see at the moment is utter incompetency. The Coalition are playing an exceedingly high-risk game and the stakes are our standards of living and livlihoods.

 

GET THE bast*rdS OUT.

This.

 

I am absolutely sick of the Coalition lazily trotting out the same old excuses of "we inherited such a mess". They're only making it worse and all i can see at the moment is utter incompetency. The Coalition are playing an exceedingly high-risk game and the stakes are our standards of living and livlihoods.

 

GET THE bast*rdS OUT.

 

And replace them with ?

 

Red Ed instead of bleating about the coalition should set out some economic policies of his own and tell us how he would create growth, how he would get millions off benefits, how he would cut the debt, all we hear from him is hot air about how nasty the coalition is.

 

I don't think he has a clue about how he would handle things, if he is serious about leading the UK it is time he set out his stall as no one knows what he stands for or how he would deal with things.

And replace them with ?

 

Red Ed instead of bleating about the coalition should set out some economic policies of his own and tell us how he would create growth, how he would get millions off benefits, how he would cut the debt, all we hear from him is hot air about how nasty the coalition is.

 

I don't think he has a clue about how he would handle things, if he is serious about leading the UK it is time he set out his stall as no one knows what he stands for or how he would deal with things.

 

They should pledge to do exactly what they were doing when they left office - when growth was booming and unemployment falling quickly. So Labour have every right to attack Osborne for abandoning policies that were WORKING for ones that aren't

They should pledge to do exactly what they were doing when they left office - when growth was booming and unemployment falling quickly. So Labour have every right to attack Osborne for abandoning policies that were WORKING for ones that aren't

 

They need time to work

 

These 21 enterprise zones if they are half as successful as the revitalisation of London's Docklands will transform business in this country, the reforms of corporation tax will bring businesses to this country (already today WPP the advertising giant has said they are returning to Britain due to the corporation tax cuts), enterprise zones become successful and businesses come to this country unemployment will fall rapidly.

 

These measures were only announced yesterday so everyone should wait and see what the government does by the time of the next election before writing them off.