That too can be true^ Didn't think of that point :P

Yeah, I got the point. But I'm not sure why you're placing your success history on the same level with Rich's. You never take any risks, go the same safe boring route. I don't even remember what you sent this year apart from Carew, Sisse Marie and Jody (the latter because it was so goddamn awful). Obviously sending essentially the same BJ-friendly song once per half a year will result in long-term success.

 

edit: Forgot Loreen! YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? :lol:

Because like it or not it is on a similar level with Rich's? We've been in the top two (Mdiče in 2008 aside, when we were top three nonetheless) concurrently every single year. While he's a fair chunk ahead of me in the overall points, it's not to a level where it's really at all objectionable to say we have to an extent similar levels of success in given years - really this year is the first where he's really relatively thrashed me within a year.

 

On the subject of risks, I send songs I love. I'm not going to send a risky track for the sake of sending a risky track if I don't love it enough to send it. I've shown more than adequately in my time in this contest that I'm not afraid of sending a risk from time to time.

On the point of 'risks', I wouldn't particularly call any of my entries all that risky either (maybe one or two) - sure I skip from one genre to another quite regularly but they're pretty much all accessible and female led, often some sort of variation of pop. The only countries that take risks are those that send something really 'out there' or against the grain of what's likely to do well on a regular basis.

 

I also only send what I love, I stick by my tried and tested method of sending the 'inspired' song that I'm loving most at the time of confirmation each month. Elsiane was an exception last month, nothing in my personal chart top twenty would have made a good entry at all, nor did I love anything enough that wasn't currently in the UK charts or otherwise too cheap for the contest - hence me falling back on an old favourite instead. This is why my entries pretty much always go to #1 or #2 in my personal chart, I always get massively into them - why should I expect anybody else to love my entry if I don't love it myself? :D

I don't generally send risks, but that's only because my music taste is so generic, I don't really have a 'risky' taste :lol:

Is it a problem with sending non-risky songs though? I mean, you are meant to send songs you love right? Some people might have a particular genre of songs they like and hence send the same thing again and again. I hope that isn't a problem with some :o

I wasn't talking about necessarily sending 'risky' songs, just mixing things up a little bit. Nobody likes one and only music genre.

Are there countries that send only one genre though..?

Only you spring to mind...

Well Pavel, if you can find a precise genre link between When We Were Ten, Michelle, You Will Never Love Me, Punk Rock Song, Panic, Whiplash, Drama, Sober, Everything's Fine, and Holy Moses, or could really say that that isn't a mix to some extent, I'd like to see it. They're all pop to certain (and notably differing) degrees, yes, but not to any more of a degree than pretty much EVERYONE (and yes, that does include Rich) has. I'm not sure why you're getting all sniffy at me in particular and acting like it's an outrage that I even compare myself with Rich in an observation that it's strange that we both end up in the top two essentially every year?

Only you spring to mind...

 

Mine isn't one genre if you take away the language... Good Day sounds nothing like Aitakute Aitakute and neither does Roly Poly sound like Sixth Sense. -_-

Mine isn't one genre if you take away the language... Good Day sounds nothing like Aitakute Aitakute and neither does Roly Poly sound like Sixth Sense. -_-

 

But haven't your entries been all K-/J-Pop? Effectively the same genre? I'm not criticizing, btw. Nothing wrong with it! :)

In fairness though that IS a little like calling most music in English with a prominent hook and melody E-Pop :lol:

Yeah, but the question was if anybody sends the same genre, not the same sound. K-/J-Pop are effectively the same, thus making all of Oricon's entries the same genre. I've sent, for example, "Stopp" and "Wovon Sollen Wir Traeumen" - they're different sounds, but the same genre. Pop. Unless I've completely misunderstood the original question?

Pop is such a vast genre, my entries this year have all sounded completely different and unique from one another but Vaporous is the only one I could say definitely isn't pop. The others were Scandi-pop, Indie-pop, R&B-pop, dance-pop, electro-pop, any take on pop that you like basically. I guess some people do tend to stick almost religiously to one pop subgenre though. Some countries send electro-pop pretty much most of the time, and others Scandi-pop, Angelicland for example barely sent anything but when they took part.

The Federal Republic on the face of it is a single genre nation, it's pop all the way apart from maybe Veronica Maggio. UNTIL you break it down into sub-genre's. Then you see a fair chunk of month on month variation. I think most of us are single genre nations that can vary across sub-genre's but rarely stray from the massive and very wide genre labels.

Yeah, but the question was if anybody sends the same genre, not the same sound. K-/J-Pop are effectively the same, thus making all of Oricon's entries the same genre. I've sent, for example, "Stopp" and "Wovon Sollen Wir Traeumen" - they're different sounds, but the same genre. Pop. Unless I've completely misunderstood the original question?

 

True but then again that's practically saying anything that is Pop sounding is classified as Pop, so technically this contest hasn't got any genre apart from Pop and Indie with some exceptions O_O. You can also say some indie songs are classified Pop as well.

 

And it does mean that I won't be the only country that sends the same genre in this case then because J/K-Pop isn't really a genre, it all comes to the category of Pop :angel:

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This is interesting. Is electro-pop an electronical take on pop? Or is it a poppy take on electronica? Is indie-pop a sub-genre to indie or to pop? Could you say - if I sent a pop-rock song one month - that I basically sent a rock type genre song?

 

What I'm trying to say is; there are no sub-genres were there are more than one genre involved. If it's a mix of two or more genres, then it's a new, fusion genre. Hard-rock and alternativ rock is a sub-genre to rock. Likewise quirky-pop and bubblegum-pop is a sub-genre to pop.

 

Isn't a different sound more when the same song is produced differently and sounds different than the previous version of it; like if its gotten a christmas sound, a retro sound or something else when it's bascially the same song, but it ultimately sounds very different in some other way - and still effectively remaining within the same genre of music?

Tyron, I am just disappointed you send samey crap (in my opinion obviously) almost every month because Kopecka used to have many good entries before.

 

The Federal Republic on the face of it is a single genre nation, it's pop all the way apart from maybe Veronica Maggio. UNTIL you break it down into sub-genre's. Then you see a fair chunk of month on month variation. I think most of us are single genre nations that can vary across sub-genre's but rarely stray from the massive and very wide genre labels.

Veronica Maggio was nothing but pop.

True but then again that's practically saying anything that is Pop sounding is classified as Pop, so technically this contest hasn't got any genre apart from Pop and Indie with some exceptions O_O. You can also say some indie songs are classified Pop as well.

 

And it does mean that I won't be the only country that sends the same genre in this case then because J/K-Pop isn't really a genre, it all comes to the category of Pop :angel:

 

I'm not talking about the sounds, though. I'm just saying that the majority of songs sent by the majority of people ARE pop. If it's a pop "sub-genre" then it's still pop, regardless of how different it may sound.

 

You're not the only country that sends the same genre, many do it, and there's nothing wrong with it and as Rich said, pop is a vast genre. I'm arguing that just because all the entries sound different from each other doesn't make them all different genres.

Veronica Maggio was guitar-pop, yes. Still hugely different to what Ashton normally send though Pavel!