how can the hot 100 song be like THE number one yet be number 85 on say rnb charts, or number 3 on pop charts :/ ???

 

also

 

on wikipedia it says give me everything is number one for 9th july and LMFAo are number one for 16th July ,

 

how can this be possible when its only the 7th today :S:S !! ?

R&B, Pop, Country (ie genre charts) are based on airplay on stations of said genre, so whatever's number 1 may get a few plays on an R&B station though it's really aimed at pop radio.

Dunno about your second point, Wikipedia error I guess? Or it could be week ending?

 

 

The Hot 100 dates their charts in advance of the week period tallied. So the current chart dated for the week of July 16th would contain sales + airplay from June 27th - July 2nd.

how can the hot 100 song be like THE number one yet be number 85 on say rnb charts, or number 3 on pop charts :/ ???

The Hot 100 is made up of sales and airplay, so if the #1 was Katy Perry's "Last Friday Night", it's pretty obvious that it's not going to be #1 on the RnB charts, as RnB stations wouldn't play that song (in its current form).

 

 

 

on wikipedia it says give me everything is number one for 9th july and LMFAo are number one for 16th July ,

 

how can this be possible when its only the 7th today :S:S !! ?

The date (IIRC) has historically referred to the date printed on Billboard magazine, ie, it should stay in shops till at least that date. It's only because of the internet that we get the charts so fast. I don't know what day the magazine is released, but even if they could get it into shops this Saturday (07/09), it would be in shops for a week until (07/16), hence the date.

 

For the Hot 100, the billboard chart date 07/16/2011:

 

- (IIRC) airplay is tracked Wednesday (06/29/2011) to Tuesday (07/05/2011)

- sales are tracked from Monday (06/27/2011) to Sunday (07/03/2011)

- plus streaming

- plus physical sales

 

 

 

 

People seem to often forget that Billboard is a magazine.

thanks everyone :) x

 

didnt realise genre was such an important role over there.. airplay and all.

 

So your saying that the biggest selling song of the week may not go to no.1 coz its not being played on radio..

 

and i heard somewhere that radio stations can be rasict toward black artists, surely this would affect black music in the charts too .

thanks everyone :) x

 

didnt realise genre was such an important role over there.. airplay and all.

 

So your saying that the biggest selling song of the week may not go to no.1 coz its not being played on radio..

 

and i heard somewhere that radio stations can be rasict toward black artists, surely this would affect black music in the charts too .

 

Well, genre is only really important for the genre specific charts. :lol: For example, if you are to do well in RnB/hip hop charts, the song whould appeal more to the people who listen to RnB/hip hop stations. In the Hot 100, obviously some genres are more popular than others, but that's the same as every other chart in the world. Like in the UK, pop and rap are quite popular at the moment, whilst rock and RnB are not so much. Not because the chart discriminates against the genres, but just because the public aren't buying them. So it's similar in the US.

 

And yes, the biggest-selling song of the week might miss #1 because of radio airplay. This year, for example, I Need a Doctor was the best-selling song on its release week, but with airplay factored in it charted at #5 officially. Perfect by Pink had a similar thing happen to it I think. The worst recent example I can think of is Party in the USA by Miley Cyrus. It was the best-selling song for 4 weeks I think, but missed #1 in the Hot 100 each time due to its lack of airplay at the time.

 

About racism on radio, I was going to write a MASSIVE paragraph on this, but I don't want to waffle. :lol: But to sum up, I'm sure it exists, but I don't think it's a particularly major problem, and not just black people, but I'm sure white people, males, females, gay people, straight people, atheists, christians, liberals, conservatives, etc. get discriminated against to an extent on certain stations too. So not saying it's not a bad thing, but I think it balances out a bit. Also, it's worth nothing that radio stations that favour a certain genre might also favour a certain type of person, not because they're racist, homophobic, anti-Christian, etc, but just because the genre they're playing has different sorts of artists. A hip hop station might play more male, black, liberal, straight artists than might be found in the general population, and a country station might play more white and conservative artists. Neither station might be bigoted or discriminating, but that's just the demographics of the artists of the artists they have to choose from.

I'm not sure of the racism issue. Only about half of the current airplay top 10 seem to be white, and there are other black/Latino artists further down the airplay chart. Maybe it exists on some stations, but it doesn't appear to be major :unsure:

I'm not sure of the racism issue. Only about half of the current airplay top 10 seem to be white, and there are other black/Latino artists further down the airplay chart. Maybe it exists on some stations, but it doesn't appear to be major :unsure:

 

I'm sure it exists on some stations. Infact, I'm almost certain it will do. But I agree that it's not major enough to effect the chart noticeably. And there'll also be stations that might discriminate against white people (for example, I'm sure there's rap stations that might think hip hop belongs to black people, and therefore are reluctant to play white artists), and other sections of society too. So it balances out a bit.

Racism isn't really an issue at all in the Billboard Hot 100. Didn't they go all of 2004 without a single white artist being number one or something?

Racism isn't really an issue at all in the Billboard Hot 100. Didn't they go all of 2004 without a single white artist being number one or something?

So they did :o

Racism isn't really an issue at all in the Billboard Hot 100. Didn't they go all of 2004 without a single white artist being number one or something?

 

Just checked wikipedia and this seems to be correct. Lots of Usher, OutKast, Alicia Keys, Snoop Dogg. As far as I can tell, there wasn't even a white artist as a featured artist.

 

All classed as R&B or Hip-Hop too.

Edited July 9, 201114 yr by Jáhq

Racism isn't really an issue at all in the Billboard Hot 100. Didn't they go all of 2004 without a single white artist being number one or something?

 

You can get racism towards white people too. Like in the example I gave about those people that think hip hop and RnB "belong" to black people. They still exist, and I'm sure there's some radio station somewhere which have people with those views working there.

 

It's a problem, but just not significant enough to effect the chart very much, if at all. Same with the other types of discrimination too. I'm sure there's a radio presenter somewhere in the US that's reluctant to play gay artists or muslim artists or something.

The date (IIRC) has historically referred to the date printed on Billboard magazine, ie, it should stay in shops till at least that date. It's only because of the internet that we get the charts so fast. I don't know what day the magazine is released, but even if they could get it into shops this Saturday (07/09), it would be in shops for a week until (07/16), hence the date.

As far as I know Billboard is released on Saturdays. Charts are publsihed 1,5 weeks prior to the printed magazine's issue date. Same as in the UK, where this process is a bit shorter, charts are published on Sundays but dated to next Saturday, Music Week's official issue date. For this confusion blame the internet :P