Thanks suedehead for tellling me about Friday, on both this forum and Haven. will definately have my recorder button set for that day.

 

Pophchartfreak, I like The Beatles as well, great group, no doubt about it. I just think that The Kinks have never had their full due in terms of credit, or sales. They were undoubtedly innovative, as outlined above, wrote some terrific songs, both in terms of singles and in terms of blindingly brilliant album tracks, but never had as much credit as other groups. They are rarely mentioned in the same breath as The Who, nevermind The Beatles!

 

One of your arguments was that The Beatles have sold so many records, including the best selling album of this century. Does not always follow that the best selling artists are the most talented. Michael Jackson had the best selling album of the 20th century, he obviously was very talented, but even the most ardent MJ fan would hesitate to put him as the most talented song writer of the last century.

 

And what about Westlife? They have sold loads of singles this century - would the forum members on here consider them as amongst the most talented groups of recent times? I doubt it.

 

 

I am reminded of a quote David Bowie made once - he always preferred The Velvet Underground to The Beatles!

 

We all have different tastes, of course, my argument is that The Kinks should at least be up there with The Beatles when it comes to accrediting certain artiists with new innovations, brilliant song writing and influence.

 

Clearly they are never going to be up there with The Beatles when it comes to discussing record sales, but there again, who is?!

 

All the best

 

 

BC

Thanks suedehead for tellling me about Friday, on both this forum and Haven. will definately have my recorder button set for that day.

 

Pophchartfreak, I like The Beatles as well, great group, no doubt about it. I just think that The Kinks have never had their full due in terms of credit, or sales. They were undoubtedly innovative, as outlined above, wrote some terrific songs, both in terms of singles and in terms of blindingly brilliant album tracks, but never had as much credit as other groups. They are rarely mentioned in the same breath as The Who, nevermind The Beatles!

 

One of your arguments was that The Beatles have sold so many records, including the best selling album of this century. Does not always follow that the best selling artists are the most talented. Michael Jackson had the best selling album of the 20th century, he obviously was very talented, but even the most ardent MJ fan would hesitate to put him as the most talented song writer of the last century.

 

And what about Westlife? They have sold loads of singles this century - would the forum members on here consider them as amongst the most talented groups of recent times? I doubt it.

I am reminded of a quote David Bowie made once - he always preferred The Velvet Underground to The Beatles!

 

We all have different tastes, of course, my argument is that The Kinks should at least be up there with The Beatles when it comes to accrediting certain artiists with new innovations, brilliant song writing and influence.

 

Clearly they are never going to be up there with The Beatles when it comes to discussing record sales, but there again, who is?!

 

All the best

BC

 

Thanks for the impressive long reply! Appreciate it:) You're right absolute sales are meaningless, look at garth Brooks...who I don't rate! It's more that they continue to sell to new generations after almost half a century, that's quite impresive. The Kinks have always been critically appreciated (just not quite so much in popular opinion) and (in my opinion) are much better than The Who & even The Rolling Stones! Ask a young person to name some 60's bands, I wouldnt be surprised to hear The Kinks come up (especially since Ray Davies is still active eg Olympics). Whether they will ever be as highly-regarded as The Beatles in popular opinion outside the UK, though...errr will any British act be...?

 

great stuff thanks! I support anything that pushes The Kinks to the fore:)

The Beatles really ... were a Supergroup.... they had 3 very talented and gifted songwriters

The Moody Blues were a Supergroup too... with at least 3 of the guys writing brilliant songs.

 

The Kinks just had Ray .... but what a songwriter he is ....

and who can touch him as a lyricist ?

Its great that he is still so active and touring ... he must love to perform on stage

playing to very appreciative audiences ......... long may he reign !