Not including sales for last week(when at number 50) sales were in or around 192,000 at the highest, i would say last week should have seen them get somewhere between 3 and 4 thousands so they probably are on 195,000 now, so will eventually get past the 200,000 mark, i didnt think they were so near to the mark when i posted so hopefully 210-215,000 in total should be reasonable.

For an album with a short chart run and not recieving a top 10 placement, it has sold decently.

Ya in that respect it has, i still would have prefered platnum sales though. Its a good cd but i have to say the flood is slightly disapointing, for me the first performance on the xfactor of the flood is the best version of the song as it has that epic sound for me and none of the other live versions i have heard are as powerful as that performance. Rule the world is the same its vertainly not the best live version i have heard of the song, on the other hand relight my fire i love, its by far the best live verison for me.

Hold up a light and Love Love from the cd aspect are the best vocally and energetically and 8 Letters is the best epically. Im mixed up with the X Factor performance of The Flood as I have looked it up on you tube and there are a few versions, I am a big fan of The Flood and I am interested in the performance you mention.

Edited January 5, 201213 yr by pippa

The best version of the flood is the results show version and not the version they performed on the final. Hold up a light is indeed great live but at the same time i dont think its any better than the circus live version, love love vocally is very good and i do like it alot and would be among my faves but i love the song anyway although not as much as the flood which i still adore.

In respect of the previous hold up a light live from circus it is fair to say this time it is not any better but it is just as fair to say it is as good and is certainly no worse. I agree, I do quite enjoy Love Love myself as I also enjoy The Flood, given a choice between both I would probably choose The Flood but it would be a very close call, and speaking of the Flood I am going to look up your recommended version now.

They missed a trick with Hold up a Light.

If they released it as the second single from Circus just before Christmas it would have done very well in the charts as it has that Christmassy feel to it. And im sure the sales would have been even better, even though they were fantastic!

 

Thats the one thing i feel they are missing, A Christmas hit that is played year after year like Last Christmas or AIWFC that boasts the sales and the albums they are from

Edited January 8, 201213 yr by jay727

I agreer hold up a light would have made a great single and it was a missed opportunity, i also agree they are missing a christmas hit and im surprised they havnt gone for it, babe wasnt a christmas song in my opinion, it could have been released anytime of year, id love them to come up with a proper christmas song, bells and all!!

A Christmas Classic would be ace, it is something that is missing for many a year now and I would be extremely happy for Take That to come along with a Christmas Tune that will be remembered in 25 years time.

They'll be remembered in the same way as the Beatles now that is pretty evident. They have broken every record around and songs like patience, shine, rtw, GD etc are ones that will last as long as back for good, NF and pray

While in my own personnel memories I would agree, but on a mass scale I understand most people would not put the two bands in the same category and would highly argue The Beatles are in a completly different league with the main difference that Take That are not a worldwide band.

 

In terms of the UK they will be remembered fondly in great measure and will pop up on the airwaves in years to come and years after most of us are no longer on this earth and that is a huge acolade.

 

I assume the live album may just have passed 200,000 sales when last weeks units were added???

Edited January 11, 201213 yr by pippa

Number 100 this week so with sales so low that probably means sales of around 1,500.

Would the album have even managed 1500 sales as the number 1 album By Adele just about managed 20,000?

Ya album sales are absolutly terrible at the moment, 20,000 for number 1 is very low so number 100 i think might have even sold less than 1000, still selling a few hundred every week will keep the sales rising which is better than nothing.

Yeah at least it is still selling! Usually live albums drop out of the charts completely at this time of year.

 

Pippa, to be fair they have sold 40million records without selling anything in the US. Actually they sold 500k of Back For Good in the US according to the RIAA and Nobody Else went to number 69. But yeah apart from those releases the rest of the 39.5million records sold have been in the UK, Europe, Oz and Asia which is very impressive baring in mind they would have sold alot more if they hadnt split up for 10 years.

 

With the Beatles...well im not going to try and compare them to TT cos im sure Kath would have my head!! :lol: BUT The Beatles sold records at a completely different time to TT, there wasnt much else out there as far as im aware (looking through the music released back in the day). It would definately be interesting to see the Beatles in the modern day music industry and to see whether their brand of music would have done as well.

 

The music landscape has changed dramatically, and for TT to sell millions of records in the early 90's and then to come back and sell millions of records over 10 years later is outstanding. In fact I can't think of any artist in the world who has experienced such a successful reunion. (no..not even Steps!)

While i never put the beatles and take that in the same category i see what your saying. I have always said i think the competition was so different in the beatles time and i guess through that era it was solely about the music, nowadays that isnt the case and i think its harder to remain successful in the climate we now have. Also nowadays there are new bands and acts coming out almost daily and shows like x factor etc are churning out acts at a quick rate that sometimes over shadows acts that dont come from reality shows etc.

 

What take that have done is remarkable and never expected, no one ever thought when they split that they would return bigger than ever. The Beatles are in a league of their own that i suppose cannot be compared (personnaly im not a huge fan although i do enjoy some of their songs) but for take that to reform and end up far far bigger than first time round is some achievement, its a shame in a sense they never truly cracked america as if they had there overall sales would be much much higher, but at the same time im glad they didnt crack america as i think the music would have been different and they wouldnt have been able to dedicate as much time to their uk/ireland/europe fans. I enjoy their music and like their style and maybe i wouldnt have enjoyed the music as much if it was made for an american market.

 

The live album was a gap filler and they wont concentrate too much on its sales and in terms of a live album it has done well considering how well the first live album did which essentially has many of the same songs, i suppose we are just used of take that achieving huge sales that this current total for the live album looks so low.

 

Im looking forward to getting a new studio album and all going well it will be once again an album i will enjoy and will it will sell well, but at the same time im kind of expecting a sales drop, its rare for acts to continue releasing albums that sell 2 million plus and since their return take that have managed four 2 million selling plus albums which is fantastic, i have no doubt the next album will sell a million and i would be happy with that, as i said i would be surprised if they continue to manage to sell so huge with albums and if they do manage it again i will just take my hat of to them. The sales for albums in general seems to be dropping by the year and it will be interesting to see if it affects the next take that album.

I agree completely in that respect! If they broke America then the music would have had that US vibe to it rather than the sound they have now. I mean look at the Everything Changes album compared to Nobody Else. The songs are completely different to one another clearly as the album was aimed at breaking America.

 

I think if they have a strong single, which they have had on each ocassion (Patience, Greatest Day and Flood) then the sales will remain the same at 2 million. Sales are slowing, but TT seem to have a massive influence on sales. One week Little Mix might sell 70k of their album and then TT release an album and it immediatly shifts 400k easily.

 

Personally I think that the fans will want to make a statement with the next album. A majority of the fans didnt like Rob coming back and influencing the music and taking the lead on most of Progress, so I reckon fans will buy this new album (presuming it is featuring TT as a 4) in a great number to show that they want TT as a 4 and Rob as his own act.

Edited January 24, 201213 yr by jay727

The everything changes/nobody else comparison is a perfect example and to this day nobody else is by far my least favourite album by them and i never listen to it with the exception of the brilliant and epic never forget which i love. Nobody else was definitly their biggest attempt at the american market and taking that into account im definitly glad they didnt break America.

 

The lead singles have been relatively strong and to date have sold very well for them so again lets hope we get a strong lead single for the next album and i agree Take That do have a massive influence on sales in both album and dvds and as i said i hope that continues but if it doesnt i wont be shocked or disapointed.

 

In a way i agree the fans will want to make a statement in that respect with the next album but sometimes itis hard to call, there is a chance they alienated some fans by re uniting with robbie aswell, but with these kind of things im usually wrong. For example beautiful world and the circus both sold over 2 million as a 4 piece and robbie is a strong album seller, in my head i thought combining both sets of fans would have ensured progress would have sold nearer to beautiful world sales but it didnt, what i took from that was that robbie and take that must both have the same fan base in some respects as robbies return didnt boost album sales in the uk.

 

Beautiful world including the deluxe sold 2.8 million, the circus didnt get a deluxe but did get an accompanying live album so if you combine them sales the circus total is very near 2.7 million, progress/progressed has sold just over 2.3 million and even if you add the live album it brings the total to 2.5 million but progress had an extra boost as it had 3 different versions where the others only had 2 so really robbie returning resulted in a tiny drop in sales in the uk, im not 100% on saying i think progress european sales are higher than beautful world and the circus though so they mainly benefited in that market.

 

Either way it will be interesting to see how robbies next solo album sells and take that next album as a four piece.

Edited January 24, 201213 yr by Aphrodite

apologies double post.

Edited January 24, 201213 yr by Aphrodite

I cant compare in regards the older albums as I did not purchase any Take That era 1 albums with the exception of the original Greatest Hits release. In context of singles Nobody Else produced what turned out to be their two most classic and remebered hits, Back For Good and Never Forget are classics that will not be forgotten. That said, Nobody Else also spawned Sure which in my opinion is one of their weakest singles. It is shocking in a sense that Sure is among their number 1 hits when songs like Rule The World, The Flood and Love Aint Here Anymore are not, that said the 3 non number 1 hits mentioned have well outsold Sure which is more important.

 

I like how you have rounded up the albums Aphrodite as I did not look at it in that light before. The Circus was at a disadvantage as it did not get the deluxe release so it is quite fair to add the live album in there to level things out and when done in this context Progress era is revealed as their lowest selling of the studio albums in the UK market. In relation to era's the Circus could potentially be the their most successfull when album, DVD and tour sales are taken into account. That said I dont think anyone could say that any era has been anything but massively successful since their return.

 

While not a big issue in context of everything else I would love Take That to try and achieve more consistant chart placings with the single releases. Beautiful world era saw them achieve 2 huge number 1 hits with 2 well rembered and recieved song, they additionaly achieved a massive number 2 hit that is now what I believe their second biggest selling single of their career while Id Wait For Life was a disaster as such. The Circus really only spawned 1 big hit with Greatest Day, Up All Night and Said it all sold reasonably ok but nothing stand outish and from I have read am I correct in stating Up All night although did not make the top 10 has outsold Said it All which did go top 10?

 

I do believe they can become more consistant with singles again though, promotion for the singles has been varied and the release strategies for some singles were far from coherent or cohesive so there is definitly room to improve. The Flood was handled in a good manner and was hugely promoted and as a result it sold in strong quantities which is an example of what can be achieved.

 

I can see no reason why the next Take That album will not sell over 2 million copies like their previous releases. Take That have not lost popularity and are still among the remaining few acts who can consistantly sell albums in the UK in extremely impressive quantities so I dont see any reason why that should stop just yet. A strong lead single to start the campaign with a cohesive release and good video mixed with promotion should see the next album go on and achieve what the previous 3 studio albums have achieved.

 

Could 12 million UK album sales from era 2 be achieved if the plan works?