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Record companies are desperate to get Take Thatter Gary Barlow to sign on the dotted line.

 

Barlow has been in talks with a number of labels regarding the relaunching of his solo career.

 

Despite being absent from the music scene for 10 years, Barlow has been writing tracks for the likes of Charlotte Church and hopes to crack the album charts with some more ballads

 

it is possible that Barlow could release a solo album and one with Take That.

 

A source told The Star: When Take That got back together, the music bigwigs were pressing to find out if Gary would be aiming to get back in the charts as a solo artist.

 

It's very flattering that deals are being waved in front of him after all this time away.

 

It's no surprise that a new album is being sought from Take That and Gary himself.

 

AND in The Sun today:

 

Gary said

"I'm really chuffed about it. Will I do a solo record again? The songs are coming and I'm enjoying writing for others, I'm just enjoying the whole thing."

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showb...ary-Barlow.html

 

 

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I really dont know to believe this or not, i really couldnt see him going for a solo career again, IF he does i think the album will be fitted in between take that as there is no way he will quit take that to go solo in my opinion.
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i agree, he wouldnt ever leave take that again, but mothers day is coming up? so perhaps he will if he really does have loads of material lying around as is being reported

 

 

i agree, he wouldnt ever leave take that again, but mothers day is coming up? so perhaps he will if he really does have loads of material lying around as is being reported

 

I honestly don't think Gary cuts it as a solo artist though. Don't get me wrong - as part of Take That he is terrific - but solo I do find him boring. I bought the album 11 Months (etc) and the only song I like on it is Lie To Me. When I've looked at some old solo footage of him he looks and sounds so very dated.

 

Still - if it makes him happy. He'd better be prepared though for any album to sell in very, very modest numbers.

 

Kath

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I honestly don't think Gary cuts it as a solo artist though. Don't get me wrong - as part of Take That he is terrific - but solo I do find him boring. I bought the album 11 Months (etc) and the only song I like on it is Lie To Me. When I've looked at some old solo footage of him he looks and sounds so very dated.

 

Still - if it makes him happy. He'd better be prepared though for any album to sell in very, very modest numbers.

 

Kath

 

 

To be fair though Kath i don't think we can judge him on his last solo outing, he wasn't given a fair roll of the dice and didn't have any real creative control over what the label wanted him to record.

I agree 12 months wasn't great but it was miles better than open road, i too like lie to me, but songs like wondering, all ive given away and for all that you want were actually very good pop songs.

I personally can't see him going solo again, he'll do a few gigs here and there but i don't think he would go down that road again, if anything he'll feature on tracks (e.g.tinie tempah wants him to sing on his next single).

However, i disagree with very very modest sales, if he released an album now it would easily go platinum or higher, alot of take that fans would buy it out of curiousity and along with his 550k followers on twitter im sure at least half of them would be interested.. time will tell, but if he does i bet it will be around mothers day, just after the x factor and before the new take that album goes into production

 

 

Im the opposite here totally, i have always said i think 12 months 11 days is a great album and criminally ignored,while i enjoyed open road in parts i much prefered 12 months 11 days, yesterdays girl and of course the brilliant lie to me are the stand outs from the album but songs like All That I've Given Away, Wondering, Fast Car and For All That You Want i did and still enjoy.

 

To be honest, im in 2 minds of whether id like Gary to do solo again or not, i think i would be happier with him recording solo album inbetween take that but continue with take that or otherwise i feel he will be going down the exact same route as before. I think the problem with gary is he isnt what i would call an entertainer on stage he is a singer and writer, his personality although i enjoy it is not liked by everyone nor understood by others aswell and all these factors often can determine success along with the music itself. Robbie for example is the opposite of gary and while im not a robbie fan i can clearly see where he built his success, it was on entertainment, wild cheeeky personality mixed with good music (in some peoples opinions, not mine!!!)

 

Sales wise, again im not sure, if he came up with the right material i dont see why he wouldnt do well as at the moment he is a very popular sought after man, but, like people before and he himself that popularity can waine very quickly. I would hope that gary isnt stupid enough to think his success DOESNT lie with take that, as thats where his success will always be, gary, mark, jason and howard are fantastic as a collective but as we have seen before apart they dont connect with the public as individuals really (gary a little bit of an exception at the moment). The other factor that could go against gary is many people will think here we go again and was he just using take that to get his solo career back.

 

Personnely as i have said time and time again, the reasons he does or doesnt do this album are not really a huge concern of mine, as at the end of the day i dont know gary as a person or anyone from take that for that matter so what they are truly like in real life i will never know. My only concern is, is the music good enough for me to part with €10 of my hard earned cash, in short if the music is good yes i will buy it if not i wont, i dont buy music on the back of the person i buy it because of the music, like i have said before about take that i will continue supporting them once they make music i enjoy, when that stops i will also stop purchasing their material.

 

 

However, i disagree with very very modest sales, if he released an album now it would easily go platinum or higher, alot of take that fans would buy it out of curiousity and along with his 550k followers on twitter im sure at least half of them would be interested.. time will tell, but if he does i bet it will be around mothers day, just after the x factor and before the new take that album goes into production

 

When I see that though - I call to mind the review one media person gave him (and this is recalled by Gary himself in his book) that he was a 'sad old crooner in a cardigan'. He is even starting to look like Val Doonican (having said that - I love Paddy McGinty's Goat and The Unicorn!).

 

Now - where's that rocking chair?

 

Kath

Sales wise, again im not sure, if he came up with the right material i dont see why he wouldnt do well as at the moment he is a very popular sought after man, but, like people before and he himself that popularity can waine very quickly. I would hope that gary isnt stupid enough to think his success DOESNT lie with take that, as thats where his success will always be, gary, mark, jason and howard are fantastic as a collective but as we have seen before apart they dont connect with the public as individuals really (gary a little bit of an exception at the moment). The other factor that could go against gary is many people will think here we go again and was he just using take that to get his solo career back.

 

Pete I agree with every bit of this. Especially the last bit - to me it rings a bit of 'having one's cake and eating it'. This is why I really, really started to go off Gary. Its as though - yes - all of Take That are given writing credits but Gary still wants it known that 'underneath all of that - its really me doing the writing'. Having said that - one does wonder why the non-Take That stuff he's written lately have been turkeys.

 

Kath

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I am very sure that he will have at least for the first album an immense success. Success is made also from the media, if they put an "In " or "Out" on him, the public will believe that. As long he will be sustained by the media, he will sell in buckets, specially with a carefully designed releasing and promoting program (i still predict an album out for the mother day).

 

I do not have a problem with his personality. I like a lot of artists, where you can hardly tell something about them as a person (BeGees, for example). My problem with Gary is his songwritting style. This is boring for me (apart some few exceptions). Even when up-beat, i feel that he wrote it as a ballad on his piano and put afterwards the beat, but in his soul has not that beat, so it sounds artificial. And in ballads, he repeats himself, i have very few surprises when i hear his songs, very often they just fly by my ear and i coudnt tell how many songs were... As Westlife, with much more worse music, presentation and personality , succedded to sell so much in UK, i will be surprised if Gary woudnt sell much more. If he will be capable to do a big sell-out tour, this is another question. A small arena tour, yes, for sure. Here could play a bigger role his personality.

 

That Gary is pursuing his interest and his solo ambition was for me very clear, firstly with his mountain climbing, and the last hint with his x-factor judge role (am i allowed to say now: i told you so??? :lol: ). It was everything very good planned to achive a lot of good will firstly...

 

In all this story i am only sad that the other three won't get the recognition they deserve. Also, it seams to me that Mark doesn't intent anymore to do something solo (while at the beginning of the reunion, he was very positive about it), he even have not a solo-webpage anymore. I still hope he will get in writing some music for films or musicals, he would have the versatility... the question is , who will give him a chance without the backing of the much more known name of Gary.

 

I think Hoawrd has enough of other hobbies to fell back. Jason remains a mistery, if he wants to do something.

 

I predict the next time we will see Take That would be for Olympics. Let's hope with a new song, released for that, but most probably they will give "Rule the world" and " Greatest day".

 

If Robbie releases in 2012 autumn, TT will never release in the same year, so their pause will be quite long this time. This give a lot of time to Gary to pursue his ambitions.

Well again we have to see how true the story is first and wait til something is confirmed, if it is true i wouldnt mind it as such but i would like it to be say the way Brandon Flowers of the killers for example did it, ie did not quit the band, it was just some side work kind of outside the band, if gary does a solo albim i think he will do it that way as if it goes bad he can say it was an experiment, if it goes down a storm well then he will prob get a bigger taste for a solo career again.

 

I do agree its a shame the other 3 guys dont get the recognition they deserve, while i admit i often just forget about jason, but mark and howard i think have great voices or maybe a unique sound to their voices, i would love a solo album from howard out of all of them but it will never happen i think. Regardless of writing credits etc robbie and gary will always be the 2 most remembered from take that no matter what solo career happen or not.

 

Again though this solo lark was muted before as was the re releasing of gary first 2 solo albums, none of which what happened so i will wait for confirmation first i think.

Well again we have to see how true the story is first and wait til something is confirmed, if it is true i wouldnt mind it as such but i would like it to be say the way Brandon Flowers of the killers for example did it, ie did not quit the band, it was just some side work kind of outside the band, if gary does a solo albim i think he will do it that way as if it goes bad he can say it was an experiment, if it goes down a storm well then he will prob get a bigger taste for a solo career again.

 

Or, as I said earlier, having one's cake and eating it. It does seem Gary wants everyone's cake lately.

 

I'm sure his Albert Hall gigs will sell - but even Gary himself realises that if he wasn't doing it for 'charity' you'd still be able to buy tickets at the door on the day. If you wanted to go of course. When Gary talks between songs - it always sounds to me as if he's about to announce the meat raffle.

 

Kath

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His voice or his accent is very mundane but he can be witty, solo career is ricky tho for him as we all know how the press love to build you and knock you right down to the very very botton again, and gary above anyone knows exactly how true that is, would he really risk that again is the big question though, if it was me id have to say i would never risk it, but i guess its different for gary he has hsi money made now and plenty of it so finacially he has nothing to lose, altho he has built up a lot of credibility since take that reformed that could very easily be all forgotten in a very quick flash.
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i dont see why robbie's release will stop take that..i mean they are both signed now to universal which will make things easier to overlap and the fact that rob will do well to sell a million of his new album in the uk, whereas take that will sell double with or without him

 

I personally can't see the press taking him down in the same way they did back in the late 90''s and early 00's. I think the way the press hounded him was an absolute disgrace, he should have sued the f**k out of them for defamation of character and what could only be called bullying towards him.

 

In other news, it has been confirmed that the Gary Barlow albert hall shows sold out pretty much as soon as they went on sale. I wonder whether we can expect a dvd/blu ray release

 

And also, reports are that Barlow has recorded with Tinie Tempah at his house and that Tempah and his management want to release the Barlow featured song as the first single from his second album. This will be very interesting to watch how it progresses..

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To be honest i hope he does release the gig on dvd as i wouldnt mind seeing it myself seeing i wont get to the concert, wow gary working with tinie tempah i certainly would have never seen that one coming but i think it will either craop or brilliant i cant see their been an inbetween!!

 

If all reports.speculation etc are true there could be a big gary barlow year coming up, should be interesting.

 

As for the press i wouldnt out anything past them they have no loyalty to anyone including gary, we all know how the media like to build you up then knock you right down and gary is bigger now than he ever was so i would never say never, i hope it doesnt happen as i hate what happened gary the last time, infact no one deserves that venom, i mean people who have murdered and raped people got nicer things written about them at that time and at the end of the day what did gary really do wrong?

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To be honest i hope he does release the gig on dvd as i wouldnt mind seeing it myself seeing i wont get to the concert, wow gary working with tinie tempah i certainly would have never seen that one coming but i think it will either craop or brilliant i cant see their been an inbetween!!

 

If all reports.speculation etc are true there could be a big gary barlow year coming up, should be interesting.

 

As for the press i wouldnt out anything past them they have no loyalty to anyone including gary, we all know how the media like to build you up then knock you right down and gary is bigger now than he ever was so i would never say never, i hope it doesnt happen as i hate what happened gary the last time, infact no one deserves that venom, i mean people who have murdered and raped people got nicer things written about them at that time and at the end of the day what did gary really do wrong?

 

yeah i can't wait to hear what this tinie tempah song will sound like, and i cant really see it being bad, just have gary singing the chorus and tempah rapping hopefully it will be like written in the stars.

ironically in an interview i saw last year tinie tempah said he asked gary to sing on WITS but it conflicted with his schedule obviously with the take that album and shame coming out and it would obviously take away the limelight for the other boys and that whole project.

 

and i agree completely that the venom was disgusting, but gary went away, found himself and came back with the global hit patience. If you listen to those lyrics (as im sure you all have done many a time) they really reflect the struggle going on with gary, im just happy he has found his comfort zone again and that people are actually waiting to see what he will do next or what he or take that will release next rather than material coming out and people then releasing who its from.

 

Maybe in his mind another solo album is his chance to draw the final line under that saga and to set the record straight. Let's be honest, he doesn't need the hassle or the money of making another record, but as he has said previously 12 months or open road were not the records he wanted to make, so now he finally has the chance after 20 years to release his own album and get it out there just for peace of mind, and if that is the case i say good luck to him and i look forward to hearing it.

 

He is undeniably a great UK talent and one of the finest we have produced over the past 20 years and we should be proud of his role in UK music.

What i dont get is when gary says his album wernt the albums he wanted to make, for me both albums were very gary and not awfuly different from the take that material, so i do wonder what kind of album does he really want to make???
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What i dont get is when gary says his album wernt the albums he wanted to make, for me both albums were very gary and not awfuly different from the take that material, so i do wonder what kind of album does he really want to make???

 

he never wanted to release love wont wait as a single, he wanted open road to be the 2nd single. In fact he didnt even want to record lww, fall so deep, so help me girl and a couple of others but the record label insisted and they also didnt let him put more of his own music onto his own solo record. He also says that he was out in europe and america for months on end and lost touch with music and what he was doing while rob rode the media wave over him. They also interferred with his tour and cancelled dates to get him working on a second album which stopped him connecting with the audience after all that time absent and then by his own admission he sat down to record 12 months and he couldnt come up with anything that he thought was good enough or edgy enough to regain the ground he lost.

There are definately some great Gary songs on his solo records, like forever love, open road and lie to me but there are also songs that im sure he wouldnt let see the light of day if he had the chance to revisit that.

 

To be honest i reckon that if he does a new solo record it could really be great if he makes it almost semi autobiographical and in the same vein as 21 just hopefully with more upbeat tracks not just ballads (open road album!) Imagine if the record said all about his dropping from BMG, finding music again, his kids, TT, rob etc if he could throw them feelings into an album it really has the makings of great material

Love wont wait i wouldnt blame him for not wanting but i suppose it went number 1 so the record company would have argued we know what we are doing with him at the time. Im surprised he didnt want to record so help me girl as i really like that song, i like open road and it would have done better as 2nd single than it performed as fourth naturally, when so helped me girl missed the top 10 (dreaded number 11 peak) i was sure open road would do the same and miss the top 10 and at the time i remember been delighted it went top 10.

 

I know in the past there were huge mistkes made with his solo career that he really couldnt afford to happen again, IF he does the solo album i would like him to concentrate on the uk/ireland market first just like take that did on return, i think america should be forgotten about as i cant see gary doing well there so i would suggest everything go into the market he stands a chance of doing well in.

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just found this interview with gary back in 1999 and it really shows what the media did to him, its actually quite sad to see him talking like himself the way he does...

 

I'm really surprised to hear this given the fact Take That are supposed to be starting work on a new album and he is doing the X Factor at present. If he releases the right material, then he could be more successful second time around but I doubt he will achieve anywhere near the level of success of Take That on his own.

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