Posted January 21, 201213 yr I want this to be a different topic to the SOPA one. SOPA appears to be finished, in it's current form at any rate, but the arrests in New Zealand and the extradition of Richard O'Dwyer are really a different kettle of fish.. Yes, they are obviously related to the current cyber-war between the US Govt and people who run Torrent sites, but there is another dimension to it, one of legality and sovereignty.. Put it like this... Recently, David Cameron effectively took us out of the EU economic restructuring plans saying that it wasn't in our best interests, and citing issues of sovereignty. How does this then scan with allowing the Americans to basically just get their hands on any of our citizens that seem to take their fancy. Cameron is not bound to continue the incredibly one-sided extradition "arrangement" that the previous "labour" Govt foolishly entered into, under a supposed caveat of "prevention of terrorism", so, now the "arrangement" has obviously gone completely and utterly beyond its original remit. As the likes of Liberty, Amnesty International, The Independent newspaper and other media outlets feared it would. If David Cameron really is "looking out for interests of the British people" (and the British Commonwealth too in the light of the arrests of those in New Zealand who run Megaupload), then he should actually grow a pair and take us out of this ridiculous extradition arrangement which is clearly impinging on our sovereignty and our right to try our own citizens in our own country under our own laws... The fact is, O' Dwyer can be charged with an offence in this country, so he should be charged in this country. The New Zealanders apparently haven't committed any crime at all in New Zealand so should be released immediately... Mind you, it's not only Cameron who seems silent on this, Nigel Farage and UKIP whom normally you cant shut up when it's the EU "interfering", are also saying nothing.... Funny that, eh...?
January 21, 201213 yr I really don't think New Zealand dares to stand up to the US and demand the release of MegaUpload's founder.
January 21, 201213 yr Holywood and their BFF's in Washington are just bullying the rest of the world into accepting their definitions of what illegal filesharing is and that it is the single worst crime ever committed. When in reality it's their own fault. I don't think that they should be allowed to extradite someone who is not committing a crime in the countries in which it operates and TVShack was entirely based in the UK. (Plus as a linking site, it's pretty much legal throughout the EU.) Iirc TVShack actually had links to all the legal streaming/download sites above those that aren't so legit and it could be argued they helped increase sales. However, the Megaupload lot were thick enough to have servers in the United States and thus committed crimes in the USA making them liable to be prosecuted under American law. I do not believe that the US government should be able to seize the oversea's assets of a non-resident/non-citizen, but Megauploads American assets are fair game. I also do not think that they should have been arrested by the NZ Police and then have a US Prosecutor act as the prosecutor in a NZ court acting on behalf of the crown. If the US wanted them sooooooo badly they should have issued an arrest warrant and nicked them on US soil not the soil of a sovereign nation who would not prosecute the accused. If this sovereign nation would prosecute the accused then it should be done in their own country.
January 21, 201213 yr Oh BLAH to it all. The whole situation is really annoying me and it had best be resolved soon. Edited January 21, 201213 yr by Umi
January 22, 201213 yr I've single-handedly downloaded HUNDREDS, if not thousands, of files from this site as well. I've always wanted to visit America one day :'D
January 22, 201213 yr Author I've single-handedly downloaded HUNDREDS, if not thousands, of files from this site as well. I've always wanted to visit America one day :'D Enjoy your one-way trip to the "land of the free" dude... Although, I bet if the Corporations had their way it would be more like a one-way trip to a certain US base in Cuba....
January 22, 201213 yr I've used MegaUpload rather a bit although not recently. And not on the computer I use currently. I'd like to see them attempt to prove that I downloaded this, after all the burden of proof is on them.
January 22, 201213 yr Author Food for thought. -tD1yaE0GfQ Does he have to be quite so jolly about it though....? :rolleyes:
January 22, 201213 yr One thing he fails to mention is that IP addresses aren't very good at telling you who did what. Especially as you go further back in time. Some companies use the same IP address for multiple people as it is far from a unique number.
January 22, 201213 yr Author One thing he fails to mention is that IP addresses aren't very good at telling you who did what. Especially as you go further back in time. Some companies use the same IP address for multiple people as it is far from a unique number. So, in other words, they cant really prove jack-shit off just having an IP number.... Funny though, they always try to make out on films and tv shows that IP addresses are like some kind of DNA or fingerprint type of deal.... :thinking:
January 22, 201213 yr Yeah IP Addresses aren't unique so it's really easy to challenge. Plus the way they find out what IP address belongs to who is very dodgy.
January 22, 201213 yr that just sounds unrealistic. megaupload was huge, thousands of people used it. I doubt they'll want to go through the hassle of prosecuting every single person to download a file, and if they do, someone will stand up and tell them to stop. of course, if not, I'll see you all in prison. ^_^
January 22, 201213 yr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LlaF2AoL-o...player_embedded Anonymous are ramping things up then. While I support their goal to get MegaUpload back up and the anti-SOPA/PIPA stance I dislike how much power they have in their hands. Edited January 22, 201213 yr by Umi
January 23, 201213 yr That video is more than 72hrs old and facebook still works :heehee: v-qqEzF-Ec8
January 23, 201213 yr Filesonic have now shut down the filesharing services. You can only store files there or retrieve stuff you uploaded there yourself.
January 23, 201213 yr Filesonic have now shut down the filesharing services. You can only store files there or retrieve stuff you uploaded there yourself. I'm glad I went on a huge downloading spree of past exam papers in case they weren't there come March / April / May. :D
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