He has now been stripped of the England captains armband by the FA.

 

So is this the right or wrong decision? And admission of the FA being consistent with their racism stance? Or have they caved in to the pressure from powerful figures?

I'd have suspended him from England and Chelsea until after his hearing regardless, despite strong video evidence people seem to think he could be innocent? But then again, I'd drop him cause he's a complete c**t.

I thought with all the campaigns like kick it out, it had stopped it but it obviously hasn't. I reckon he should be banned from playing football ever again if he is found guilty. :nono:

I'd have suspended him from England and Chelsea until after his hearing regardless, despite strong video evidence people seem to think he could be innocent? But then again, I'd drop him cause he's a complete c**t.

 

This might come across as hypocritical as I stuck by Suarez (and still do 100%), but if he can get banned for 8 games on the balance of probability, and because he admitted saying it once, then Terry deserves the same if not more. I hate the way he has gone about the situation, he's tried to hold on to the armband for as long as possible. The likes of Ollie Holt and Samuel Martin are sticking up for him, which is horrible, considering the way the same journalists branded Suarez a racist.

 

He could be innocent, and yes innocent until proven guilty, but there's video evidence of him saying something. Anton Ferdinand's reaction has been very telling, he's been very quiet publiclyy, but you can tell he loathes the fans guts. No handshake between the two teams last weekend in the FA Cup because of John Terry.

 

Ian Wright has reckoned Terry's idea was to get a good lawyer (check), delay the court case until after the Euro's (check) and then retire after the Euro's (looks likely). I agree with him completely.

The decision made is completely the wrong one. It should either be one way or the other, not some lame half-arsed decision somewhere in the middle which will make no difference to anything. He should either be backed COMPLETELY or NOT AT ALL, not some utter shit in the middle which makes the situation even worse and less helpful that it was and would've been.

So, this is the second time he's been stripped of the Captaincy, yes...? Maybe this kind of proves that he's just not "fit for purpose"....

I agree with stripping the captaincy from him in principle, no doubt about it. From a footballing point of view he's by far the best leader England have on the pitch but I doubt whether he'd carry anywhere near the same authority any more anyway.

 

As a different matter, who the hell do they turn to next? Gerrard would be a backward decision given that's he's missed so many games, it'd be Ferdinand all over again. Despite his record Lampard's not guaranteed a starting place anymore, Hart and Cole are the only ones really certain to start in the Euros and neither have any captaincy experience.

I agree with stripping the captaincy from him in principle, no doubt about it. From a footballing point of view he's by far the best leader England have on the pitch but I doubt whether he'd carry anywhere near the same authority any more anyway.

 

As a different matter, who the hell do they turn to next? Gerrard would be a backward decision given that's he's missed so many games, it'd be Ferdinand all over again. Despite his record Lampard's not guaranteed a starting place anymore, Hart and Cole are the only ones really certain to start in the Euros and neither have any captaincy experience.

 

I don't think players would be comfortable with him having the captaincy, not even just the black ones. Whether he even gets picked could cause friction in the dressing room.

 

As for the new captain, Gerrard for me is the obvious candidate. Long-term not the best, but you're going into a major tournament, but he's the onely player with major captaincy experience. If he stays fit (which he should do, as Liverpool are managing him well), he's still an automatic England starter imo. In the long-term, it's got to be Hart. But whether Capello wants a goalkeeper as the captain I do not know.

I don't think players would be comfortable with him having the captaincy, not even just the black ones. Whether he even gets picked could cause friction in the dressing room.

 

As for the new captain, Gerrard for me is the obvious candidate. Long-term not the best, but you're going into a major tournament, but he's the onely player with major captaincy experience. If he stays fit (which he should do, as Liverpool are managing him well), he's still an automatic England starter imo. In the long-term, it's got to be Hart. But whether Capello wants a goalkeeper as the captain I do not know.

With Capello gone after the Euros long term isn't really in his mind right now. Gerrard is the obvious choice with either Lampard, Ferdinand or as a (really) long shot Gareth Barry as vice captain. Redknapp or whoever can pick who they like after that

Found not guilty. Following the trial I said that would be the case early on Tuesday, after having 8 months and a huge amount of money to put together a defence, his case was defended like there had been that much time to put one together.

Well he was always going to get away wasn't he regardless? I haven't followed the case massively as I've been out of the country, but it sounds there was doubt whether John Terry said it as clarification or as an insult, so there's doubt, which is why there is a verdict of not guilty. Despite the fact John Terry is a c**t I would rather not jepordise the British legal system just to see the man get a 25k fine.

 

The only thing that will annoy me now is if the FA don't investigate the case. Surely the world can now see why Liverpool were so annoyed about the Suarez case. Suarez 8 game ban for not one shred of conclusive evidence yet John Terry will probably get away scott free.

The FA have said they will do their own investigation, though there's no word on what that will entail yet.

The FA are now in a difficult situation

 

I'm sure they'd like to say "Not guilty. We can't take no action", but surely they'll have to after fining Suarez and giving him an eight match ban where there was less evidence involved. I'd expect to see some consistency and for Terry to be given the same

 

and I can't believe there's been talk of Terry being given the England captaincy again

racial banter has always been the ugly hidden side of the game, surprised it has only shown it's head now, i don't think terry is racist but he may or may not have said, either way he is not guilty

Rio Ferdinand in hot water for calling Ashley Cole a "ChocIce" for standing up for John Terry. Its obvious Terry isnt racist shouldnt have made it to court.

Rio Ferdinand in hot water for calling Ashley Cole a "ChocIce" for standing up for John Terry. Its obvious Terry isnt racist shouldnt have made it to court.

 

No he isn't a racist, that's for sure. But what he said was racist. Neither of the Ferdinand brothers come out of this looking very good, but John Terry should AT LEAST get an 8 game punishment for what he said if that is the bench mark for racism.

No he isn't a racist, that's for sure. But what he said was racist. Neither of the Ferdinand brothers come out of this looking very good, but John Terry should AT LEAST get an 8 game punishment for what he said if that is the bench mark for racism.

 

I guess that would have been fair but since he has been found innocent they cant really now.

That's why the FA have such a dilemma. Can they really suspend someone for 8 games and fine them when a body of higher power can't find him guilty using all the evidence available. At the same time if the Suarez case had gone to criminal courts there's no way they'd have found him guilty with the evidence either. It's incredibly hard to see a scenario where the FA don't come out badly.

I guess that would have been fair but since he has been found innocent they cant really now.

 

They can. The major problem the FA will have no is if this happens again, then Defense lawyers will just use the John Terry case to their advantage. The maximum fine he could have got was £25,000.

 

That's why the FA have such a dilemma. Can they really suspend someone for 8 games and fine them when a body of higher power can't find him guilty using all the evidence available. At the same time if the Suarez case had gone to criminal courts there's no way they'd have found him guilty with the evidence either. It's incredibly hard to see a scenario where the FA don't come out badly.

 

The Suarez case would never have gone to case. 1) because there was not enough evidence for a Crown Prosecution and 2) because Evra declined to take the issue up with the police. I'm over what happened now, but there is no comparison between the two cases. If the FA decide to play God and let John Terry off then they have opened another massive can of worms. The Suarez and Evra case was one mans word against another, no evidence at all. The John Terry case is different. If Suarez was found guilty on those allegations, then John Terry should at the very least by the FA.

Charged by the FA. Should be getting AT LEAST an 8 game ban, although the fact they've released the news on today of all days is slightly concerning.