Given it's awful, I'm inclined to say YES!

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My winners:

1970 - Ireland (Dana - All Kinds Of Everything)

1971 - United Kingdom (Clodagh Rodgers - Jack In A Box)

1972 - Ireland (Sandie Jones - Ceol An Ghra)

1973 - Ireland (Maxi - Do I Dream)

1974 - Sweden (ABBA - Waterloo)

1975 - Luxembourg (Geraldine - Toi)

1976 - Norway (Anna Karine Strom - Mata Hari)

1977 - United Kingdom (Lyndsey De Paul & Mike Moran - Rock Bottom)

1978 - United Kingdom (Co-Co - Bad Old Days)

1979 - Norway (Anita Skorgan - Oliver)

1980 - United Kingdom (Prima Donna - Love Enough For Two)

1981 - United Kingdom (Bucks Fizz - Making Your Mind Up)

1982 - Austria (Mess - Sonntag)

1983 - United Kingdom (Sweet Dreams - I'm Never Giving Up)

1984 - Luxembourg (Sophie Carle - 100% d'amour)

1985 - United Kingdom (Vikki Watson - Love Is)

1986 - Denmark (Lise Haavik - Du Er Fuld Af Logn)

1987 - Netherlands (Marcha - Rechtop In De Wind)

 

2000 - Russia (Alsou - Solo)

2002 - United Kingdom (Jessica Garlick - Come Back)

2007 - United Kingdom (Scooch - Flying The Flag For You)

2012 - Latvia (Anmary - Beautiful Song)

 

Well I think your choices for 1977 1978 and 2002 (and maybe 1971) were the ones that should have won:)

And all of them are British entries! How coincidental! :magic:

And all of them are British entries! How coincidental! :magic:

just co-incidental:)

back in the day the UK was the most consistent eurovision country cos it used proper pop stars and songwriters - pretty much what other countries do nowadays to try and win: hot pop producers like Red1, Timbaland and even British songwriters. My fave country these days is usually France cos they are always unusual and almost always classy...:)

just co-incidental:)

back in the day the UK was the most consistent eurovision country cos it used proper pop stars and songwriters - pretty much what other countries do nowadays to try and win: hot pop producers like Red1, Timbaland and even British songwriters. My fave country these days is usually France cos they are always unusual and almost always classy...:)

but how do you know that other countries weren't using their pop stars as well?

 

We (Russia) used RedOne in 2011 and the song barely qualified for the final and flopped in the end. So it's hardly the way to ensure success.

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but how do you know that other countries weren't using their pop stars as well?

 

We (Russia) used RedOne in 2011 and the song barely qualified for the final and flopped in the end. So it's hardly the way to ensure success.

 

Yes, but it's more likely - when Russia won they used a big name (Dima Bilan) and Timbaland (the hottest American songwriter/producer at the time) co-wrote it. It was one of the best ever Eurovision winners, and at least Russia makes the effort to win, unlike the UK (usually) these days. The other year we entered a dustbin-man with a song he wrote - a nice man but he'd never written a hit record in his life.

 

Most countries don't have many internationally known popstars, the UK has always had loads of popstars known throughout Europe (and often the whole world, second only to USA). Problem now is they don't want to risk losing and harming their career, so they won't enter. Popstars that aren't internationally known only stand to benefit from the massive audience...

I agree with you. United Kingdom was # 1 ESC country in past (especially from 1965 to 1985) and could have some additional wins in most years (with Kathy Kirby, Mary Hopkin, Cliff Richard, Clodagh Rodgers, New Seekers, Olivia Newton-John, Lynsey & Mike, Co-Co, Bardot, Prima Donna, Sweet Dreams, Vikki Watson)

 

Thanks Alex, yes UK music dominated European pop back in those days....:)

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Yes, but it's more likely - when Russia won they used a big name (Dima Bilan) and Timbaland (the hottest American songwriter/producer at the time) co-wrote it. It was one of the best ever Eurovision winners, and at least Russia makes the effort to win, unlike the UK (usually) these days. The other year we entered a dustbin-man with a song he wrote - a nice man but he'd never written a hit record in his life.

 

Most countries don't have many internationally known popstars, the UK has always had loads of popstars known throughout Europe (and often the whole world, second only to USA). Problem now is they don't want to risk losing and harming their career, so they won't enter. Popstars that aren't internationally known only stand to benefit from the massive audience...

Wot. 'Believe' is easily one of the worst winners of Eurovision ever. The combination of a traditional ballad with strong lyrics + Dima Bilan (someone Eurovision crowd was already familiar with) + the ice-skating gimmick. The presence of the Olympic champion Plushenko + some famous violinist didn't hinder either.

 

I have no idea why Brits think being in Eurovision harms the career. LOADS of already famous stars from other countries entered and it never harmed them at all. Just look at Severina for example. More famous now than ever even though she performed in Eurovision 6 years ago. Not everything former Eurovision entrants release after their Eurovision performances is bound to be well-perceived and having been in Eurovision doesn't play any role whatsoever in this. E.g. Rybak doesn't even have a single song that could be even half as good as Fairytale. All about quality of the material.

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