If I was American, my instinct would be to support Sanders. I might even feel that, with Trump or Cruz as the likely opponent, now was the best chance of getting someone like him elected.

 

Two things would make me hesitate. First, a Sanders v Trump / Cruz contest could make it more likely that a third (or even fourth) serious candidate could intervene. That could lead to a centre-right candidate being elected instead of a Democrat. Second, I would worry that Sanders would struggle to get anything particularly radical past Congress. Even if the Democrats somehow won a majority in both houses, I suspect a number of them would block many of Sanders' proposals. That might lead me to end up voting for Clinton on the assumption that she would at least manage to make some progress.

 

I can fully agree with this. But, we have 469 seats in the senate up for re election so all we need to do is to fill those seats with democrats. And the one thing I will give Sanders more than anything is his ability to get younger Dems to vote when it comes to that election. He has proven the ability to get people that usually don't care about voting/ politics, fired up because he also puts a magnifying glass on individual states and their senate holders.

 

If Hillary wins the nomination she needs to capitalize on the fact Sanders has so many ride or die supporters and at the very least make him her Vice President. And vice versa. This election is all about us shutting out republicans the best we can and that's really our best bet.

Edited April 20, 20169 yr by Tyler

Is this over how he voted over the shootings at Sandy Hook? Where he voted the gun companies are not liable for deaths caused by guns? Because, they shouldn't! I'm anti guns but you can't blame a company for an individual's misuse of a product. To turn it and act like Sanders is pro guns is ludicrous.Until you properly ban a product you can't sue a company for producing the products that our second amendment protects.

 

With that being said... I prefer Bernie. But, I'm also fine with Clinton winning the nomination. I am in full agreence that the Sanders supporters that are planning to write in his name or will support a republican candidate over her are full blown ignorant. But, you have Clinton supporters saying the same thing. In the big picture we just need one of them to win in order keep things going on the right track, and I really wish some of my fellow Dems would SEE THAT.

No its over his lacklustre attitude towards gun control. He's made plenty of statements making it clear he is more or less happy with things as they are of just making bland statements about stuff which wont solve the underlying problem. That is guns kill. Most victims are family members including children. Children have a right not to be murdered by angry or ill adults. This is not even an issue in the UK but so many Americans still think its the wild west. Which is why the USA, a country I looked up to for so much, cant even listen to its own president every time thetes yet another massacre by its own countrymen. So sad...

But he's still going to win though, right? Because momentum?

 

Yeaj.

 

I've always said I don't like Berni and like Hills but he will win with the momentum he has!!

Oh good, for a moment there I thought you were backpeddling so ferociously it might cause the earth to shift on its axis. Carry on.

Let us make this clear: I think he is awful.

 

But I think he will win.

If Hillary wins the nomination she needs to capitalize on the fact Sanders has so many ride or die supporters and at the very least make him her Vice President. And vice versa. This election is all about us shutting out republicans the best we can and that's really our best bet.

 

Even if he was offered it, would Sanders want to take a VP slot?

 

With that said, I'm not sure who the VP slot will go to. The most common pick a while back was Julian Castro, but I'm not sure he'd be very good at helping the ticket appeal to either the leftwing "Bernie Bros" or to the white working-class men who are Clinton's big weakness and Trump's big strength.

Edited April 20, 20169 yr by Danny

Whoever wins will choose Elizabeth Warren. The choice will appeal to Hillary supporters and be a good enough compromise for Bernie supporters.

Hillary won't choose her for the simple reason that she'll want a man to balance the ticket a little to help overcome her relative weakness with male voters.

Hillary won't choose her for the simple reason that she'll want a man to balance the ticket a little to help overcome her relative weakness with male voters.

Bingo. Sanders could conceivably pick Warren (let's suspend our disbelief for a second and imagine he was the nominee after all) but I wouldn't be surprised if he picked a BME person to shore up one of his weakest areas.

Even if he was offered it, would Sanders want to take a VP slot?

 

With that said, I'm not sure who the VP slot will go to. The most common pick a while back was Julian Castro, but I'm not sure he'd be very good at helping the ticket appeal to either the leftwing "Bernie Bros" or to the white working-class men who are Clinton's big weakness and Trump's big strength.

The change.org side of the Democrats have started campaigning against Castro as a pick, so I think he may be out. Thomas Perez might have the same appeal while also reaching out to the left.

But I think he will win.

...no really, how?

...no really, how?

 

 

Penslyvania, California huge win and picking up smaller states, brokered convention and using his momentum and grassroots to get the votes.

The same Pennsylvania where he is nearly 16 points down in the latest aggregate poll?

 

The same Pennsylvania where Clinton's poll lead has actually grown in the past week?

 

The same Pennsylvania with a similar demographic to New York where just two days ago he actually did worse than expected?

 

THAT Pennsylvania? Or a one in an imaginary timeframe where he is polling at 60%?

Recent polls had him within 1% following Wyoming and Wisconsin.

No they didn't. And following NEW YORK (where she trounced him) the polls have her at +16.

Recent polls had him within 1% following Wyoming and Wisconsin.

 

The last five polls in Pennsylvania;

 

April 17-19th | Monmouth | Clinton = 52, Sanders = 39, Undecided = 9 | Clinton = +13

April 11-18th | Franklin & Marshall | Clinton = 58, Sanders = 31, Undecided = 11 | Clinton = +27

April 04-07th | FOX News | Clinton = 49, Sanders = 38, Undecided = 13 | Clinton = +11

March 30-April 04th | Quinnipiac | Clinton = 50, Sanders = 44, Undecided = 6 | Clinton = +6

April 02-03rd | Harper | Clinton = 55, Sanders = 33, Undecided = 12 | Clinton = +22

 

Average | Clinton = 52.8, Sanders = 37, Undecided = 10.2 | Clinton = +15.8

There are many more states and less favourable terrotory after April and he win win there, getting huge momentum for the big prize, California which, given his momentum, by June wuill vote Sanders.

There are many more states and less favourable terrotory after April and he win win there, getting huge momentum for the big prize, California which, given his momentum, by June wuill vote Sanders.

 

BIB: Where?

 

And it's all fine and well him winning California, but he doesn't JUST need to win, he needs to win very comfortably with about 58-60% of the vote (something that he's only been able to do in very white, very liberal states (something which California is not)). Judging on how good or bad he does on Tuesday, he may even need up to 65% of the vote in California to make any real difference.

 

Judging by recent polls and state demographics, here is what I think the rest of the states will vote.

 

Connecticut = Clinton

Delaware = Clinton

Maryland = Clinton

Rhode Island = Clinton

Pennsylvania = Clinton

Indiana = Sanders

Guam = Clinton

West Virginia = Clinton

Kentucky = Sanders/Clinton

Oregon = Sanders

Virgin Islands = Clinton

Puerto Rico = Clinton

California = Sanders/Clinton

Montana = Sanders

New Jersey = Clinton

North Dakota = Sanders

South Dakota = Sanders

District of Columbia = Clinton

If he loses everything next Tuesday (which is a very real possibility) then it's game over in terms of winning the nomination. I don't really buy into the idea that his staying in will massively damage her strategy/image for the general if it's more of the kind of contest we saw in January/February and more about getting his message out there for as long as possible.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/21/eli...eam-ticket.html

 

Yup I knew it, Hillary will appeal to the other big name among liberals so they all won't throw their toys out the pram.

 

"The Sanders campaign finds itself in the same odd no man’s land that Clinton faced in 2008. Sanders has rattled off a bunch of wins, but he isn’t really making up much ground. This is why Sen. Sanders’ speeches are increasingly peppered with references to that magic fairy dust that every trailing candidate invokes, momentum. "

 

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http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/07/ber...tion-fight.html