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True but should Trump be elected they wouldn't be able to control him. He has enough money that he can't be bought and has paid for all his own campaign. He's said too that he'll decide his own Foreign policy without advisers.

 

Hopefully he'll get to 1237 delegates. I'm not saying that because I like him but if he has less they'll try to deny him the Nomination and hand an election landslide to Hillary.

 

Wrong.

 

Rich people want more money. If he didn't, he wouldn't be expanding his business.

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Trump announces more policies. :o

 

At last night's rally he said he'll build a wall to separate the US from Canada too but Justin Bieber can have a key as he likes him! :D

 

Also, Oreos to be banned in the US. Apparently makers Nabisco are relocating production for the US to Mexico so he'll stop them beinm to mg imported. Also he reportedly doesn't like them.

 

You've got to admit the guy's funny!!

An american president who doesnt believe in imports is going to have trouble with exports so bye bye US economy. Kind of him to make sure canadians can be protected from crossing into the usa accidentally. Look forward to see them stick a wall over niagara falls :P

 

Trump is many things but a sense of humour is not something he has. Cant take jokes against himself ever and only finds something funny if its cruel and vindictive about someone else. People are protesting cos they see him as a genuine threat to world stability and human decency. He is.

True but should Trump be elected they wouldn't be able to control him. He has enough money that he can't be bought and has paid for all his own campaign. He's said too that he'll decide his own Foreign policy without advisers.

 

Hopefully he'll get to 1237 delegates. I'm not saying that because I like him but if he has less they'll try to deny him the Nomination and hand an election landslide to Hillary.

That would be like saying rupert murdoch could run for pm and hed be trustworthy cos hes super rich! Ridiculous. Rich people get hard ons for cash and power or they would be in the business of spreading it around once they had millions more than they need. If trump doesnt believe in powerful interests telling locals what to do he can get the f*** out of scotland and sell up and piss off. Hypocrite.

An american president who doesnt believe in imports is going to have trouble with exports so bye bye US economy. Kind of him to make sure canadians can be protected from crossing into the usa accidentally. Look forward to see them stick a wall over niagara falls :P

 

Trump is many things but a sense of humour is not something he has. Cant take jokes against himself ever and only finds something funny if its cruel and vindictive about someone else. People are protesting cos they see him as a genuine threat to world stability and human decency. He is.

 

Yup, again like a spoilt child.

 

If this Canada wall is true he is loterally doing what his South Park parody did :lol:

As expected, things turned a little more in Sanders' direction last night, he won Utah and Idaho with roughly 80%, but thanks to a big win in Arizona for HRC he's only caught up by about 10-15 delegates.
He won't get 70%+ in the Rust States (especially when Clinton is 25-35% ahead in the polls in both New York and Pennsylvania (both with very high delegate counts)).
And if he repeats that margin in theRust states and 100 delegate Washington...

...then he'll still be behind by about 100-200 delegates. And that's a massive 'if' anyway.

Washington is a caucus, liberal, white and didn't like Bill much either, just like Idaho and Utah!!

Hillary only needs 702 delegates at this point to win. There are 2,147 left. She would need to be getting less than a third in *every state* to lose at this point. There are 22 states left. She will get about half that amount in New York and California alone (247 and 475 delegates respectively). So essentially, she needs 350 delegates from the other 20 states (1,093 delegates) and the ~250 remaining superdelegates (95% of whom so far have gone to Hillary - even a fifty fifty split on the remaining superdelegates would be a miraculous achievement for Bernie)

 

Unless you're expecting her to be getting 10% in New Jersey, I'm not really sure at this point how anybody who can count thinks Bernie winning from this stage is a possibility.

What is that link? :blink:

 

And what is this about 96%? That wouldn't even make sense.

Hillary only needs 702 delegates at this point to win. There are 2,147 left. She would need to be getting less than a third in *every state* to lose at this point. There are 22 states left. She will get about half that amount in New York and California alone (247 and 475 delegates respectively). So essentially, she needs 350 delegates from the other 20 states (1,093 delegates) and the ~250 remaining superdelegates (95% of whom so far have gone to Hillary - even a fifty fifty split on the remaining superdelegates would be a miraculous achievement for Bernie)

 

Unless you're expecting her to be getting 10% in New Jersey, I'm not really sure at this point how anybody who can count thinks Bernie winning from this stage is a possibility.

This all still stands.

 

And that Seth Abramson bullshit has been so roundly debunked I'm surprised you're citing it. 'Sanders has won all live voting states!' is a. the equivalent of UKIP whinging at every lost by-election that they were robbed by postal votes, and b. not even true! Not only has Bernie not won every live vote - Hillary's won *more* live voting states than Sanders has!

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...c-primary-race/

Debunked where?

 

He won by 75% in three states. This will block Hills from reaching the delegates number as she can't win ysing superdelegates meaning the Convention will choose Sanders for his grass roots momentum and independent votes.

There is SO MUCH wrong there, where to start. Hillary CAN (and indeed almost certainly WILL) meet the pledge delegated threshold, she's less than 700 away at this point and will bag around 350 ALONE from New York and California as Tirren already stated. Granted if she didn't win outright the superdelegates wouldn't just HAND it to her anyway, but there's no way she goes from about 70% support of the party elite to LOSING at the convention given most of the people making backroom deals to clinch the nomination either way would be....party elites/officials.

 

Not that it will come to that anyway, she has a VERY CLEAR path to winning, she's hit a few stumbling blocks these last few states, but just as her smashing her way through the south wasn't conclusive proof she would win, his doing so in highly white states is also proof of nothing. His path is there, yes, but it's a massive uphill climb and all it takes is losing New York by 10/15 points (for example) to mean that it's not 65% or whatever he needs anymore, but 70% in every state, and then 75% etc. The Maths don't count him OUT, but they mean the probabilistic chances of him doing it are VERY SMALL.

Debunked where?

 

He won by 75% in three states. This will block Hills from reaching the delegates number as she can't win ysing superdelegates meaning the Convention will choose Sanders for his grass roots momentum and independent votes.

Debunked in that link I posted right there in that post, that showed that the idea that Bernie wins all the 'live votes' is a total lie?

 

'She can't win using superdelegates' - uh, why do you think they exist?

 

Not that she'll need the superdelegates to win. You screech 'momentum' repeatedly, but every single big potential game-changer win Bernie has had has been followed by a crushing Clinton win (New Hampshire followed by a crushing in Nevada; Michigan followed by a crushing in Ohio and Florida...). Momentum is meaningless if, uh, it isn't actually translating into consistent wins bigger than he needed otherwise. He can win caucuses in small states all he likes. Doesn't stop that Hillary only needs 670 more delegates from 21 states.

He has overtaken nationally.

 

THAT is what momentum is.

 

And commentators have already started calling for her to concede the race...

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Said commentators are utter morons. He hasn't overtaken nationally at all - Hillary has an average lead of about ten points in polls in the last couple of weeks.

 

65 percent of the remaining voted delegates are in New York, California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Maryland. Even a 60/40 delegate split from here on out would not be enough for Sanders to win. Hillary is ahead - a lot of the time by quite some way - in all of those states.

 

These are the results that Sanders would need to win. It isn't happening.

 

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When you start seeing levels of +50 then you KNOW this isn't going to be an easy path. And any of the commentators telling Hillary to drop out are (for the most part) the ones who have been crowing loudest about the email scandal and are massively pro Bernie, so they've been wanting that all along REGARDLESS of the maths.
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