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I just can't see Estonia having a hope on Tuesday.

 

A very pleasant but middle of the road song performing 2nd (supposedly the death slot) and will likely have been forgotten by most voters by the time the last song has been performed.

 

It couldn't possibly have much more going against it.

 

On one hand I feel bad for Estonia....but on the other hand they only have themselves to blame for not picking Grete Paia instead.

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The second spot in the semi final has actually provided quite a large number of qualifiers in the past (since the dual semi format was introduced), so isn't quite the "death slot" it's made out to be. Stuff that's drawn in the middle of the running order tends to be the least luckiest draw wise in the semis.
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First Semi-Final

 

01 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Denmark.png Denmark

02 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Serbia.png Serbia

03 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Ukraine.png Ukraine

04 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Russia.png Russia

05 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Ireland.png Ireland

06 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Netherlands.png The Netherlands

07 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Belgium.png Belgium

08 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Moldova.png Moldova

09 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Slovenia.png Slovenia

10 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Austria.png Austria

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11 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Montenegro.png Montenegro

12 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Belarus.png Belarus

13 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Cyprus.png Cyprus

14 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Croatia.png Croatia

15 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Estonia.png Estonia

16 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Lithuania.png Lithuania

 

 

 

 

Second Semi-Final

 

01 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Norway.png Norway

02 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Georgia.png Georgia

03 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Greece.png Greece

04 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Finland.png Finland

05 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Azerbaijan.png Azerbaijan

06 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Bulgaria.png Bulgaria

07 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Iceland.png Iceland

08 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Switzerland.png Switzerland

09 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/FYR_Macedonia.png F.Y.R. Macedonia

10 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Romania.png Romania

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11 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/San_Marino.png San Marino

12 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Hungary.png Hungary

13 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Malta.png Malta

14 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Israel.png Israel

15 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Armenia.png Armenia

16 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Albania.png Albania

17 http://www.eurovision.tv/img/upload/flags/mini/Latvia.png Latvia

Just for fun I'm going to predict using random.org. It will be more accurate than me predicting myself. :P

 

First Semi-Final

 

01. Slovenia

02. Cyprus

03. Lithuania

04. Ukraine

05. The Netherlands

06. Austria

07. Belarus

08. Russia

09. Serbia

10. Estonia

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11. Belgium

12. Croatia

13. Ireland

14. Denmark

15. Montenegro

16. Moldova

 

Second Semi-Final

 

01. F.Y.R. Macedonia

02. Norway

03. Israel

04. Finland

05. Iceland

06. Latvia

07. Azerbaijan

08. Bulgaria

09. San Marino

10. Greece

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11. Malta

12. Armenia

13. Romania

14. Hungary

15. Albania

16. Georgia

17. Switzerland

:lol:, I've just watched the full rehearsals from the first semi final and my opinion has completely changed again! Talk about wide open this year!

First Semi-Final

01. Moldova

02. Denmark

03. Ukraine

04. Russia

05. The Netherlands

06. Montenegro

07. Belarus

08. Ireland

09. Serbia

10. Croatia

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11. Austria

12. Estonia

13. Slovenia

14. Cyprus

15. Belgium

16. Lithuania

 

In theory Moldova should take this Semifinal by storm but due to a lot of contenders (Denmark, Russia, Ukraine) all being in the same Semi, one may start doubting it'll happen. Having not seen any of the rehearsals of this Semi apart from Montenegro and Moldova's I can't really fully be sure anything will happen but if the public (and the juries) have any sense they will favour O Mie. This has Yohanna written all over it. The question is whether we'll have a Rybak this year. I still find Denmark's success with the bookies a bit odd and have a feeling it might do an Amaury Vassili in the end. On the other hand the overwhelming Denmark win in the OGAE voting makes me doubt me doubting that Denmark can win this. Oh well, I wouldn't mind either of these songs winning tbh. Resting on a gimmick Ukraine should sail through through televoters. Same with Russia and juries. The Dutch song is pretty unpredictable to me at the moment. Anouk is very likely to do a Kaas but with more exposure (Semis AND a Final, if she qualifies) it might even have a shot for the Top 5. Seriously have no idea about this one. Montenegro will go through as televoters will eat this up so easily. Plus it's guaranteed the Balkan support so should settle in a lower half of the Top 10. Belarus will attract televotes, plus being in the same Semi with BOTH Ukraine and Russia is always a bonus. I hope Alyona qualifies just for the mere fact that I won't have to read all the 'omg everyone hates Belarus we never go through it's all political lasha tumbai!!!1' on the forums. Ireland will collect enough support from everywhere but will probably absolutely CRASH in the Final. Serbia and Croatia will go through by the Balkan vote at the expense of Austria and Estonia. Slovenia isn't strong enough to win enough televoters plus it's really not a jury material so no chances here unfortunately. Cuprus will be a snoozefest, Belgium - forgettable and Lithuania - hot mess, as usual. Perhaps Lithuania won't finish at the bottom since ex-USSR countries are likely to give them a slight advantage with a neighbourly vote but I don't think it'll change much.

 

Revised semi predictions from me.

 

Semi 1

01. Ukraine

02. Denmark

03. Netherlands

04. Russia

05. Moldova

06. Ireland

07. Serbia

08. Croatia

09. Montenegro

10. Estonia

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11. Belarus

12. Austria

13. Lithuania

14. Belgium

15. Slovenia

16. Cyprus

 

The top 6 will get support from both televoting and juries whereas Serbia & Montenegro will get the televote support and Croatia & Estonia the jury support. Belarus will just miss out. Lithuania, despite being the worst song here, will get support from a few countries but not enough to qualify. All of Slovenia's votes will go to Ireland. Cyprus has a good draw but there's far too many stronger ballads here so will surely come towards the bottom.

 

Semi 2

01. Norway

02. Georgia

03. Azerbaijan

04. Greece

05. Bulgaria

06. Iceland

07. San Marino

08. Armenia

09. Finland

10. Israel

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11. Romania

12. Malta

13. Albania

14. Switzerland

15. Hungary

16. Macedonia

17. Latvia

 

I'm finding semi 2 much harder to predict. Norway and Georgia will be the top 2 though I'm almost sure of that. Azerbaijan and Greece will no doubt do well as always. I'm sure and hopeful of San Marino qualifying, easily their best entry yet. Finland, Israel, Romania and Malta are all borderline for me, any could make it.

Edited by AdamAloud

Second Semi-Final

01. Norway

02. Georgia

03. Iceland

04. Switzerland

05. Azerbaijan

06. San Marino

07. Israel

08. F.Y.R. Macedonia

09. Bulgaria

10. Romania

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11. Greece

12. Finland

13. Albania

14. Armenia

15. Hungary

16. Malta

17. Latvia

 

Now this Semi is a lot trickier since there are not a lot of favourites and lots of unpredictable songs. Once again, IN THEORY we should see a Berger win but with Georgia in the way and people still remembering the Ell & Nikki's success (I hope NOT though oops) it might be problematic. However I'm fairly certain this will be the Top 2 in the end either way. Iceland will absolutely win the juries over, in my opinion. I'm actually quite glad this song was chosen to represent the country now as it's one of the very few songs in the NF that stood a chance of finishing in the top half of the Final, or at least qualifying. The only problem is that televoters might find it boring which even I did after I heard it for the first time. So I may be WAY off with this prediction. Switzerland will probably receive a lot of 'edgier' votes even though it's a pop song in general - it just has this vibe, reminding me a lot of Bosnia & Herzegovina in 2009 actually. Azerjaba... azerja... Baku will do well too, to no one's surprise. I might be underpredicting this one as no doubt Azerbaijan aren't going to suddenly start doing bad (i.e. not finishing in the Top 10). It's their first all-male act since 2008 (which is their worst result as well oops) so we'll see what happens really. Even Armenia's Top 10 streak didn't last forever. Unless Valentina starts doing those CRAZY EYES again, I believe San Marino will have no trouble qualifying this time around, to flop miserably in the Final, along with Ireland. Classy as always (except for last year OOPS) Israel should do rather well, or at least just qualify. Macedonia might actually win over some votes because Esma is so damn amazing. Juries will like it as well, I believe. Bulgarian entry will barely qualify due to the past glories. I'm past pretending the iconic Elitsa & Stoyan will trouble the Top 20 - better not set myself up for certain failure. The song is good but not as nearly as good as Water, and everyone will know that. Romania's screeching vocals will attract voters and some will definitely vote for it 'for funz'. Plus closing the Semi is almost (HAI The Toppers) always a good thing. again, 9th and 10th places can easily be swapped with Greece, Finland or Albania, depending on how well 5 songs are performed. The four countries I don't see qualifying at all are Armenia, Hungary, Malta an Latvia. Latvia are way too generic in their way to stand out, Malta are too boring and very second( / THIRD)-hand Finland 2011 and Belgium 2010, Armenia are... male (and not even with a wimpy ballad) and Hungary are a bit too out there really (although last year's song was as well and it still qualified).

Isn't Greece one of the most obvious qualifiers in there? HONESTY Pavz (and much as I love Moldova there is no way at all that she's beating Denmark)

My Final Predict :

Top 10 positions order is not impotant, so...

 

[semifinal 1] :

[Q] Russia [Field is very ex-Soviet and ex-Yugo, so I think, that Russia and Ukraine will the most successful countries in this semifinal]

[Q] Ukraine [Most lucky and overrated ESC country. Always sent shit, but had impressive results]

[Q] Denmark [bookmaker favourite. In pre-Internet era I didn't say, that she will qualified, but now we all know so much about artists chances before competition]

[Q] Moldova [Nice voice. Juries will love her]

 

[Q] Croatia [Dark horse of this semifinal. Here is some Ex-Yugo countries. One or two from them do it well. Croatia have the most chances in my opinion]

[Q] Slovenia [Dance trash have much more chances, than nice ballads]

[Q] Ireland [Now it's hard to predict another results. Mainstream song for top 40 chart lovers]

[Q] Belgium [it's nice to be a man in ladies semifinal. Second positive surprise]

[Q] Estonia [it's Iris - 2012, but here is one difference : Birgit is pregnant. It can be cute for European housewives, which always were the impotant auditory for Eurovision]

[Q] Netherlands [Negative surprise. 10 place and only some points difference between her and 11 place]

 

11. Lithuania [Most dangerous competitor for Anouk]

12. Serbia [Girlbands are not a good choice for ESC. With male singer this song could have nice result. Their sexy image is contrast with song]

13. Cyprus [boring for televoters and not so impressive for juries]

14. Austria [Huge flop. Nothing intresting in this song. Go home after semifinal]

15. Belarus [Chanceless, even can be last, if ex-Yugo countries will vote for neighbours more, than ex-Soviet]

 

Last place : Montenegro [Even worse, than in previous year. Not zero points, but only because traditional Ex-Yugo countries support on ESC]

 

Summary :

First 4 countries are 100 % qualifiers

Next 5 countries are very possible qualifiers

Fight between Lithuania and Netherlands for last 10 place.

Serbia have a little chance

Austria and Cyprus don't have, but wouldn't on the last place.

Belarus and Montenegro are hopeless bottom 2.

 

My Final Predict :

Top 10 positions order is not impotant, so...

 

[semifinal 1] :

[Q] Russia [Field is very ex-Soviet and ex-Yugo, so I think, that Russia and Ukraine will the most successful countries in this semifinal]

[Q] Ukraine [Most lucky and overrated ESC country. Always sent shit, but had impressive results]

[Q] Denmark [bookmaker favourite. In pre-Internet era I didn't say, that she will qualified, but now we all know so much about artists chances before competition]

[Q] Moldova [Nice voice. Juries will love her]

 

[Q] Croatia [Dark horse of this semifinal. Here is some Ex-Yugo countries. One or two from them do it well. Croatia have the most chances in my opinion]

[Q] Slovenia [Dance trash have much more chances, than nice ballads]

[Q] Ireland [Now it's hard to predict another results. Mainstream song for top 40 chart lovers]

[Q] Belgium [it's nice to be a man in ladies semifinal. Second positive surprise]

[Q] Estonia [it's Iris - 2012, but here is one difference : Birgit is pregnant. It can be cute for European housewives, which always were the impotant auditory for Eurovision]

[Q] Netherlands [Negative surprise. 10 place and only some points difference between her and 11 place]

 

11. Lithuania [Most dangerous competitor for Anouk]

12. Serbia [Girlbands are not a good choice for ESC. With male singer this song could have nice result. Their sexy image is contrast with song]

13. Cyprus [boring for televoters and not so impressive for juries]

14. Austria [Huge flop. Nothing intresting in this song. Go home after semifinal]

15. Belarus [Chanceless, even can be last, if ex-Yugo countries will vote for neighbours more, than ex-Soviet]

 

Last place : Montenegro [Even worse, than in previous year. Not zero points, but only because traditional Ex-Yugo countries support on ESC]

 

Summary :

First 4 countries are 100 % qualifiers

Next 5 countries are very possible qualifiers

Fight between Lithuania and Netherlands for last 10 place.

Serbia have a little chance

Austria and Cyprus don't have, but wouldn't on the last place.

Belarus and Montenegro are hopeless bottom 2.

Where on earth could anyone BEGIN?!

 

That said I love that housewives are apparently a KEY VOTING DEMOGRAPHIC

Where on earth could anyone BEGIN?!

 

That said I love that housewives are apparently a KEY VOTING DEMOGRAPHIC

Be glad Estonia is not a '100% qualifier'. :o

About 40 predictions later, I've finally settled on the following for the semi finals:

 

Semi Final 1:

 

01 Denmark

02 Russia

03 Ukraine

04 Moldova

05 Croatia

06 Netherlands

07 Ireland

08 Serbia

09 Cyprus

10 Lithuania

11 Belarus

12 Estonia

13 Belgium

14 Slovenia

15 Montenegro

16 Austria

 

Semi Final 2:

 

01 Georgia

02 Azerbaijan

03 Greece

04 Norway

05 Albania

06 Iceland

07 Bulgaria

08 Israel

09 Malta

10 Romania

11 Armenia

12 Finland

13 Hungary

14 FYR Macedonia

15 Switzerland

16 San Marino

17 Latvia

Semi One

 

01 Denmark

02 Ukraine

03 Russia

04 Netherlands

05 Estonia

06 Moldova

07 Lithuania

08 Serbia

09 Ireland

10 Belarus

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11 Croatia

12 Montenegro

13 Austria

14 Slovenia

15 Belgium

16 Cyprus

 

9/10 :funky: what the hell at Belgium though, and I didn't have Serbia as a dead cert so I'm very pleased with my predictions!

8 / 10 for me.

 

Croatia was robbed. Still think, that Netherlands and Lithuania were # 9 - # 10

9/10 for this semi final (I didn't post my predictions here but on another site).

I only had Montenegro down instead of Lithuania. Very surprised at the latter qualifying.

Even if nobody don't care about it, but here is my predict.

 

[semifinal 2] :

[Q] : Norway

[Q] : Azerbaijan

 

[Q] : Iceland

[Q] : San Marino

 

[Q] : Greece

[Q] : Georgia

[Q] : Latvia

[Q] : Switzerland

[Q] : Finland

[Q] : Romania

 

Another countries :

11. Israel

12. Malta

13. Bulgaria

14. Hungary

15. Macedonia

16. Armenia

17. Albania

Edited by AlexRange

The others I could see but Latvia? What demographic is voting for that?

 

(Love it myself but I gave in to it having no hope ages ago)

I have no doubt about Israel qualifying at all! It's the most obvious qualifier for me with Azerbaijan and Norway.

 

I'm gonna post my predictions after tomorrow's SF (of course before the votes are revealed) because that worked well last night too ;)

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