I would probably add Mel C's I Turn To You.

Agnes Release Me - this is dance?

How is it not?

I just listened to it. It's pop - the beats aren't heavy enough. I wouldn't include it - especially when they left out I Turn to You.

Edited June 14, 201312 yr by AnthonyT

I would say 'Hung Up' has more right to be in the countdown than 'Music'.

I keep wondering whether it's 4Music or the OCC that only want to classify Madonna, Mel C, and Kylie as "pop acts" which is why they wouldn't include their songs but why include Rihanna, will.i.am, and Chris Brown then who were never dance in the beginning of their careers until they jumped on the bandwagon?

It is strange. There's no rule to say a pop act can't do dance music.

I seem to remember 'Can't Get You Out of My Head' entering the Top 40 Dance Chart after the Diamond Jubilee Concert, so I don't know why the OCC haven't counted it (surely the problem lies with them instead of the music channel as I can't see the channel disqualifying songs from a list given from the OCC).

They also left out 'Call My Name' and 'Spectrum'. They probably would have been included if Calvin Harris was credited on them.

They also left out 'Call My Name' and 'Spectrum'. They probably would have been included if Calvin Harris was credited on them.

Seems like they will never get it right, but I'm just happy we got sales! :lol:

Release Me is a disco-pop song but was marketed in the UK as a dance song as it was released by AATW/3Beat (a dance label) and promoted with tons of club remixes and various exposure in dance circles. To me it will always be a sublime Scandipop song though, I've never considered it to be dance.

 

Set You Free must do very well on download sales as I can't imagine the 2001 remix added much more than 100-150k to its total. I wonder what it sold in the 90s? Anywhere close to being a million seller?

"Set You Free" sold 420,000 copies in the '90s.

Where is Cher - Believe? That is most certainly dance and not pop :/

Where is Cher - Believe? That is most certainly dance and not pop :/

 

Not 21st C (for most of its sales, anyway).

I recorded this earlier on Kiss and just fast-forwarded through it and wrote down all the stats...

 

Here is the top 100 if anyone is interested (unfortunately, I can't display this in a table):

 

# ARTIST SONG SALES (~)

 

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Thanks for these - now I just have to figure out a way of extracting them into a form my Total Sales spreadsheet can use.

Clarifying what is and what isn't 'dance' music is such a grey area and no one ever going to do a list that everyone's happy with, but it still seems unfair that a lot of these recent urban dancepop songs are grouped in with stuff like 'Sandstorm' and 'Latch'...does anyone really consider acts like Rihanna and will.i.am to be dance music? More like pop/R&B, but the genres have merged so closely since 2009 that you can make an argument for both. Saying that I suppose the same argument was going on in 2000 with the likes of Fragma and Sonique, both could either be called pop or dance depending on your viewpoint.

 

The one that always surprises me when I see these lists is Operation Blade. Keep forgetting how well that sold through Christmas 2000, it's hardly the most commercial of releases...

 

I was discussing this on here a few weeks ago.

 

I was saying there's these sub-genres, drum & bass, dubstep, UK garage, grime, etc. which some people consider under the "dance" umbrella, and others don't (because they don't use those signature 4/4 beats).

 

The way I see it, since UK garage, dubstep and grime are 90% the same thing, you've either got to include or exclude them all imo, for consistency's sake. This list seems to have decided to include those genres, judging by the fact that Katy on a Mission, R.I.P, What's It Gonna Be, etc. have been included.

 

I'm glad they included people like Rihanna and will.i.am though. It would be unfair to include those US R&B artists with their songs that are EXACTLY the same as something Calvin Harris or David Guetta would release.

 

And also, it was NOT in 2009 that R&B started taking dance influences, it was around 2003-2006.

 

I keep wondering whether it's 4Music or the OCC that only want to classify Madonna, Mel C, and Kylie as "pop acts" which is why they wouldn't include their songs but why include Rihanna, will.i.am, and Chris Brown then who were never dance in the beginning of their careers until they jumped on the bandwagon?

 

I don't know, but songs like We Found Love and Beautiful People (and many others like Sweat by Snoop Dogg) all charted in the OCC's dance chart I think. However, a few like Scream & Shout and On the Floor were put in the OCC's R&B chart.

 

The OCC put some songs like Heaven by Emeli Sande and Jump by Rihanna in the dance chart, and I think those two would've been more appropriate for the R&B chart personally.

Edited June 15, 201312 yr by Eric_Blob

And also, it was NOT in 2009 that R&B started taking dance influences, it was around 2003-2006.

 

Yeah 03-06 is when it started, but I use 2009 as the year as when it really started to majorly kick off on a really widespread level and begin to dominate the charts/top-sellers and rock music began a bit of a lull in chart popularity. Comparing, say, Now That's What I Call 71 (Xmas 08) to Now 74 (Xmas 09) the difference is really strong.

Don't really understand how I Gotta Feeling isn't considered dance. What exactly is it then? :lol:

 

Would've been the top dog here if included :cry:

Yeah 03-06 is when it started, but I use 2009 as the year as when it really started to majorly kick off on a really widespread level and begin to dominate the charts/top-sellers and rock music began a bit of a lull in chart popularity. Comparing, say, Now That's What I Call 71 (Xmas 08) to Now 74 (Xmas 09) the difference is really strong.

 

Well yeah. I mean, with Yeah! by Usher, in an interview Lil Jon said how in that song (and all his other crunk songs) he was trying to combine eurodance and hip hop. And it seemed over the years since then it gradually went from "hip hop songs with dance influences" to less hip hop and more dance. By about 2007 you were getting songs like The Way I Are which were more like "dance songs with hip hop influences". Then shortly after you had songs like Forever by Chris Brown which were just pure dance-pop.

 

Don't really understand how I Gotta Feeling isn't considered dance. What exactly is it then? :lol:

 

Would've been the top dog here if included :cry:

 

Yeah, it's odd they didn't include that. Especially since it was produced by David Guetta and sounds just like Love Is Gone lol.

Edited June 15, 201312 yr by Eric_Blob

Yeah, it's odd they didn't include that. Especially since it was produced by David Guetta and sounds just like Love Is Gone lol.

I was thinking that! And we could've gotten an up to date sales figure for it! I know it's probably not sold that much since the last figure (1,351,000) was given, but still...:lol:

Thank you so much for posting this list up :)