She pulled down his shorts and I don't think he was wearing anything underneath. It was right that she got a warning as it could be seen as a sexual assault especially if it was a guy doing it to a woman.

I completely agree, if a male had pulled down a woman's shorts, then all hell would break loose, no doubt.

Oh no, I am not defending his actions in the slightest! He is a vile horrible excuse for a man and I am confused as to why he cannot see what he did wrong either. I just think Hazel pushed it a little too far at times sometimes, and looked as though she saw it as a joke too. Whether or not that was to keep him happy or not I dunno. Daley was right to be removed for sure, some of the things he said it and in the manner he was saying it repulsed me. Especially when he grabbed her throat and told her to go to sleep.

Oh I didn't realise he had nothing on underneath his shorts!

 

I know I will get attacked for this, but I don't think Hazel was a complete saint in all of that.

Oh no I agree. He shouldn't have gone THAT far but she was very odd in the way she handled it. She was probably just being 'strong' by not telling him to stop.

 

He was still despicable and it's not really equal blame, but she isn't a total saint just because a vile man was horrible to her. That's not to condone his vile behaviour at all.

There's no point likening Hazel pulling down his shorts to Daley pinning her down to the bed by the neck and arms and telling her he's going to finish her. One is playful, the other is not. Hazel obviously misjudged his mood (BB not showing ANY of his weird fucked up behavior before this doesn't help Hazel's case), so she got it wrong, but is she to blame, even partly? Absolutely not. As for her reaction, nobody reacts well in that kind of situation. You're not going to confront the guy after he's been up in your face, nor are you going to do anything that will agitate him further. Thankfully he is gone and that is the end to the whole fauxmance. Hopefully we get the old Hazel back and maybe she'll view her position in the house differently. More importantly, I hope Katie has run a mile.

Hazel wasn't completely in the right, of course not, "it takes two to tango", but Daley shouldn't have reacted how he did and it was right for him to be removed, 100%. He clearly didn't like her that much if he acted like that, I wouldn't dream of treating ANYONE like that, let alone someone so close.

I certainly don't want this to come across like I'm condoning Daley's actions - he was a vile pig, and I'm glad he's removed. But, much like Jack said, she wasn't a saint in that scenario, and she certainly didn't seem as victimised as she did in the diary room. When he said "I'll finish you", she said "I'd finish you first" whilst getting closer to him, looking at him provocatively. She didn't leave it, or back away sounding scared. She'd be right to feel very scared in that situation, I'm just not convinced by her actions that she ACTUALLY WAS scared.

 

But yeah, it was definitely right for him to be removed there. That scene was horrific to watch, like, really bad - I'm glad that's an end to Daley & Hazel as a whole, and I hope this can help to bring out a different side to Hazel now. But, I can't deny that I find her very manipulative, this incident assisting it.

TBF though at that moment in time, she probably felt every feeling going, she didn't know whether he was joking or being serious and she her emotions would be all over the place. As Daley was called to the diary room, she probably had time to reflect properly and think about their actions, whilst he wasn't there. When he asked her if he said anything, she probably didn't want to rile him up even more at that moment in time because she probably did feel vulnerable after all.

 

As for the answering back, I think it was her way of protecting herself (as stupid a thing as it was to do). She certainly doesn't like to show that she's backing down for anyone, when she's feeling threatened. I'm not saying I know how she feels or have ever been in that situation but her reaction was probably the norm for someone who's quite a strong person.

I must say, I did feel sorry for her when all the housemates were in disbelief and questioning Hazel. She looked really vulnerable and fairly scared.

There's no point likening Hazel pulling down his shorts to Daley pinning her down to the bed by the neck and arms and telling her he's going to finish her. One is playful, the other is not. Hazel obviously misjudged his mood (BB not showing ANY of his weird fucked up behavior before this doesn't help Hazel's case), so she got it wrong, but is she to blame, even partly? Absolutely not. As for her reaction, nobody reacts well in that kind of situation. You're not going to confront the guy after he's been up in your face, nor are you going to do anything that will agitate him further. Thankfully he is gone and that is the end to the whole fauxmance. Hopefully we get the old Hazel back and maybe she'll view her position in the house differently. More importantly, I hope Katie has run a mile.

I think the end of tonight was just a summary of today and we will definitely see more of that side tomorrow (Daley going crazy, counting down or whatever it was). He's definitely shown a "Dr Jekyl" and "Mr Hyde" side tonight, and it was scary!

 

Like Jack said, Hazel must be feeling really overwhelmed and shocked by everything at the moment. I don't blame her for wanting to stay out of it and not tell everyone what happened, because they'd all take it way out of context and she'd be feeling pressured by everyone asking all these questions (particularly Dan).

I hope to god Dan doesn't go in detective mode with this. He doesn't need to know everything.

Callum, Dexter, Gina, Jackie and Jack & Joe

all up for eviction. Happy. I think it's either

Callum and Jack & Joe

going. I hope for the latter, but I hope BB takes advantage of the fact there are 5 of them up and use it as a double eviction.

FUMING. I expected it, but that doesn't stop me from being annoyed, and I can even see the twins going. if that is the result, that's the end of the series for me.

I am pretty certain

Jackie

will be going.

The Twitter response to this has made me lose faith in humanity. I don't care who it was, if it was Charlie, Sophie, Jackie, or Gina who was on the receiving end of this, nobody should have to put up with this kind of response. Christ. D:

TBF though at that moment in time, she probably felt every feeling going, she didn't know whether he was joking or being serious and she her emotions would be all over the place. As Daley was called to the diary room, she probably had time to reflect properly and think about their actions, whilst he wasn't there. When he asked her if he said anything, she probably didn't want to rile him up even more at that moment in time because she probably did feel vulnerable after all.

 

As for the answering back, I think it was her way of protecting herself (as stupid a thing as it was to do). She certainly doesn't like to show that she's backing down for anyone, when she's feeling threatened. I'm not saying I know how she feels or have ever been in that situation but her reaction was probably the norm for someone who's quite a strong person.

Yeah, I can definitely see that. I think as a hardcore Big Brother fan, we all naturally over analyse situations and think we know housemates better than we probably do. On face value though, I do feel like there was a point where Hazel did provoke it more, like I said with the "I'll finish you" comments. I don't think she was just trying to protect herself, because as she said it, she writhed towards him like she was getting turned on by it, almost.

 

I do agree though, that by the end (perhaps shown by how she was hunched on the chair), you could feel her vulnerability. I just don't feel like all is what meets the eye with Hazel, and I am cynical about her - as sorry as I feel for her.

The Twitter response to this has made me lose faith in humanity. I don't care who it was, if it was Charlie, Sophie, Jackie, or Gina who was on the receiving end of this, nobody should have to put up with this kind of response. Christ. D:

 

What's being said on Twitter?

Yeah, I can definitely see that. I think as a hardcore Big Brother fan, we all naturally over analyse situations and think we know housemates better than we probably do. On face value though, I do feel like there was a point where Hazel did provoke it more, like I said with the "I'll finish you" comments. I don't think she was just trying to protect herself, because as she said it, she writhed towards him like she was getting turned on by it, almost.

 

I do agree though, that by the end (perhaps shown by how she was hunched on the chair), you could feel her vulnerability. I just don't feel like all is what meets the eye with Hazel, and I am cynical about her - as sorry as I feel for her.

She probably was turned on by it (some people are into that kinda thing, so who knows :lol:) but then Daley took it further to which point she probably thought hang on a minute, this isn't play fighting anymore... which was when BB intervened and she had time to collate herself and get her head together and process these things. I agree with you though and see why people will be cynical about her. It's just hard for me to get around something like this after witnessing it. :lol:

 

The thing I found most disturbing was how he seemed to "snap out of it" as soon as BB intervened. It was really scary to see.

If it was not in the house, the incident would have been resolved in anger sex or Hazel leaving with a couple of bruises

What's being said on Twitter?

 

In a nutshell:

 

@bbuk I am so gutted Daley had left because honestly hazel was the one teasing him the whole way ! Ahhh #bbuk

 

» Hazel should've also been given the boot for HER "threatening", goading behaviour!! WTH? We already know how Daley will be painted!! #bbuk

 

Hazel you minipulative cow yet daily did take it a bit far but you don't play on it and basically stab him in the back #Ratb #bbuk.

 

Daley grabbed Hazel's throat THEN Hazel grabbed his throat. Daley was kicked out, so Hazel should be kicked out too #BBUK

 

Hazel is vile. She encouraged that whole situation then snapped at the chance to look like a victim. Karma for Daley though. 1+1=0 #bbuk

 

Hazel is sooooo manipulative OMG #bbuk (This is from AISLEYNE of all people, so I LOLd a little bit at this comment)

 

No wonder women find it hard to reach out if this is the shit they'd have to put up with. I'm sure there would be UPROAR if it was Charlie or Gina on the receiving end of Daley's wrath, and rightfully so. People need to put their dislike for Hazel aside for one minute and stop blaming her for his actions. 'Slut-shaming' at its finest. Pisses me off to no end (as you can probably tell).

 

 

Aisleyne :wub:.

 

It depends on what you look for, I have seen much more tweets in negative response to Daley.

Some people just don't know what Hazel was feeling. Like Robot said, she was probably thinking "this is quite a turn on" and thought he was play fighting until she realised that something wasn't right! Ugh. The twitter-sphere is atrocious in times like these. Weren't some people also condoning Chris Brown's actions and basically laughing at those pictures of Rihanna? They make me sick sometimes. :lol: