This is nothing to do with what you posted, more a general point, but how often do you hear a white players being referred to as a beast?

 

Certainly there are no racist overtones in the term, not from me anyways

 

I use the term to describe anyone of a huge physical presence, admittedly most of those with huge physical presence seem to be dark skinned but that is a side issue

 

Anyone who follows me on Twitter knows I describe Pete Van Der Veen, Lady Gaga's chief bodyguard, as a 'beast' in conversations, he is white, his 6ft 8 height and hugely muscular frame qualify him for the term

 

Plus Sandro's self styled nickname is 'The beast', he uses it regularly on Twitter, You Tube and Instagram

Edited November 4, 201311 yr by Sandro Ranieri

Jon Parkin, who used to play for us, was referred to as 'The Beast'. Not because of his ability though, he literally was a beast (sporting the "just woke up in the middle of the forest after 10 years" look). :lol:

 

Feed the beast and he will score!

To be fair Spurs aren't going to concede many as so few teams can score a goal. Less than half the teams in it are averaging more than a goal a game after 10 matches, that's utterly diabolical. Being in the league is now worth so much money that not conceding or losing has become of far greater importance than actually trying to win matches, most teams play like they'd be happy to draw half of their games 0-0.

 

This too

 

Smaller teams particularly, park the bus against us

 

That sort of situation is extremely hard to break down, not easy to score when the opposition are playing 5 defenders and 4 DM's

This too

 

Smaller teams particularly, park the bus against us

 

That sort of situation is extremely hard to break down, not easy to score when the opposition are playing 5 defenders and 4 DM's

Which no one does. The only teams to play three/five at the back with any regularity this season are Liverpool and Villa, and the latter played 4-3-3 against Spurs.

 

There's a difference between having the bus parked in front of you and not being able to fashion chances.

Which no one does. The only teams to play three/five at the back with any regularity this season are Liverpool and Villa, and the latter played 4-3-3 against Spurs.

 

There's a difference between having the bus parked in front of you and not being able to fashion chances.

 

Hull played a 5 man defence v us, first half Everton played 10 men behind the ball as we totally gave them a football lesson

Hull played a 5 man defense in the Championship to win promotion, it's not like it's a defensive tactic.

Careful, more of this "well it doesn't matter because we're playing pretty football" and you'll start turning into the old Arsenal. You know, the one that didn't give you a football lesson a few weeks back.

Careful, more of this "well it doesn't matter because we're playing pretty football" and you'll start turning into the old Arsenal. You know, the one that didn't give you a football lesson a few weeks back.

 

Last year Arsenal beat us 5-1, so the fact this season the game was a lot closer is a sign of progress ;)

Last year Arsenal beat us 5-1, so the fact this season the game was a lot closer is a sign of progress ;)

It's a retrograde step from beating them in one of their only PL losses of 2013.

It's a retrograde step from beating them in one of their only PL losses of 2013.

 

I have always maintained as has AVB and Levy that the target for this season is 4th, i remain confident of getting it :)

Hull played a 5 man defense in the Championship to win promotion, it's not like it's a defensive tactic.

 

Exactly, just because we had 5 defenders doesn't mean we "parked the bus". We created chances and easily deserved a point against Tottenham, just a stupidly dodgy penalty decision that cost us.

Drogba was considered a dud by Chelsea fans half way through his first season, I remember Bergkamp getting stick off the media and gooners but look what they became, look at Eto'o too, looks like a championship player atm, Dzeko took a full season to settle

 

Few foreign strikers make an immediate impact, only ones i can think of in recent years have been Cisse of Newcastle (who has been a joke ever since that half season), Demba Ba, Lukaku, Benteke, Suarez, Aguero

 

Lamela has not had enough games to tell whether he will make it, Eriksen similarly as Siggy has had a great season so far

 

AVB for me is the best manager there has been at the club since i started supporting Spurs in 1980 (reasons below)

All the time i have been supporting Spurs we have had 2 massive weaknesses - defence and our winning mentality/mental strength

 

AVB has worked miracles with our defence, has turned our 3 decades achilles heel into probably the best defence in the premiership, we are like fort knox these days and that is due to AVB

 

He has also toughened our midfield, we have some absolute beasts in midfield now - Capoue, Sandro, Paulinho and Dembele, our heads dont drop when we go a goal down like happened under Harry, Jol and a whole succession of managers before them, we are scoring goals at the end of games and in injury time which is near enough unheard of in my time as a Spurs fan

 

Goals are the final piece of the jigsaw, they will come, either through Soldado or someone else we buy but it is easier to win games when the score is 0-0 than in the past when we would be 2-0 down

 

Soldado just looks like a complete dud to me. Not up to the pace, not willing to make the step up to the pace. Everything about him just screams Morienties to me. AVB is a defence minded coach, but I just think you lack creativity and goals in your team. The system you play the players playing the #9 and #10 roles have to click. Townsend is just a MOTD player. His decision making is absolutely awful.

 

Think you'll do well still, but you have a lack of goals and creativity in your team, and I think that will cost you dearly this season. When teams park the bus you need to be either clinical or have that one piece of excellent link-up play to win you the game. So far when teams have parked the bus you've got a few flukey penalties!

Soldado just looks like a complete dud to me. Not up to the pace, not willing to make the step up to the pace. Everything about him just screams Morienties to me. AVB is a defence minded coach, but I just think you lack creativity and goals in your team. The system you play the players playing the #9 and #10 roles have to click. Townsend is just a MOTD player. His decision making is absolutely awful.

 

Think you'll do well still, but you have a lack of goals and creativity in your team, and I think that will cost you dearly this season. When teams park the bus you need to be either clinical or have that one piece of excellent link-up play to win you the game. So far when teams have parked the bus you've got a few flukey penalties!

 

I think he will still come good, not spectacularly good but a 15 goal a season man so neither a flop or a world beater, he has 4 in 10 atm, yes 3 are from the spot but penalties are easily missable so work is still needed to score

 

We have plenty of money so can buy another striker if necessary

I think he will still come good, not spectacularly good but a 15 goal a season man so neither a flop or a world beater, he has 4 in 10 atm, yes 3 are from the spot but penalties are easily missable so work is still needed to score

 

We have plenty of money so can buy another striker if necessary

 

But if you look at it like, 1 goal out of 10 games from open play then it does just not look great at all. He needs a lot of work to come good, the system is not built around him firstly, and you never see him running the channels much. Just reminds me of Morientes.

 

But if you look at it like, 1 goal out of 10 games from open play then it does just not look great at all. He needs a lot of work to come good, the system is not built around him firstly, and you never see him running the channels much. Just reminds me of Morientes.

 

He isn't getting the service, he hasn't missed that many chances, just hasn't had the service to put the ball away, some of that could be down to bad positioning but the main problem is Andros Townsend

 

Since his amazing England debut he is the media darling, the great black hope for Brazil 2014, the tabloids love him, AVB dropping him would be the media equivalent of shooting Bambi and AVB seems too cautious to do that

 

Much as i love Townsend the guy is a complete and utter liability, he would rather try a pot shot from 30 yards and be the big hero again if it comes off, than lay on a through pass to Soldado when Soldado is in a good scoring position, Townsend would rather run at the full back and do a fancy stepover than pass to a team mate, 9 times out of 10 the full back owns his ass

Edited November 5, 201311 yr by Sandro Ranieri

Since his amazing England debut he is the media darling, the great black hope for Brazil 2014,

THERE'S your racial referencing RFC.

THERE'S your racial referencing RFC.

 

Not at all

 

Its a play on words on the term 'Great White Hope', a term used as a sporting reference throughout my lifetime including in the media

 

Clearly as Townsend is BLACK that term great white hope can't be used

Edited November 5, 201311 yr by Sandro Ranieri

Not at all

 

Its a play on words on the term 'Great White Hope', a term used as a sporting reference throughout my lifetime including in the media

 

Clearly as Townsend is BLACK that term great white hope can't be used

Why not? It's not like "great white hope" is referring to someone's physical appearance.

Not at all

 

Its a play on words on the term 'Great White Hope', a term used as a sporting reference throughout my lifetime including in the media

 

Clearly as Townsend is BLACK that term great white hope can't be used

The term 'great white hope' does have racial connotations. It was a meida expression and sort of nickname of James Jefferies, a white boxer who fought the first black heavyweight boxing champion Jack Johnson. The media specifically used the expression as a matter of racial pride at the time.

 

I must say I haven't heard the expression in a good few years now and society in general seems to have dropped the word white out thankfully

The term 'great white hope' does have racial connotations. It was a meida expression and sort of nickname of James Jefferies, a white boxer who fought the first black heavyweight boxing champion Jack Johnson. The media specifically used the expression as a matter of racial pride at the time.

 

I must say I haven't heard the expression in a good few years now and society in general seems to have dropped the word white out thankfully

 

It was also used to describe in the media

 

Gerry Cooney

Gerry Coetzee

Vitali Klitchsko

Allan Wells

Tommy Morrison

 

Also in America Chris Christie the presidential candidate was described as 'the great white hope' to beat Obama

 

Also Wayne Rooney. http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/fer...te-hope-3987049

Edited November 5, 201311 yr by Sandro Ranieri