Editing to say David Tench has answered an enquiry on twitter and confirmed his recording with Will isn't connected with this programme but he can't reveal what it is about. Probably not his place. I'm actually pleased as I'm hoping it's connected to some bigger project.

Oohh liking the sound of that ...for the first time in 18 months i now have something to watch out for and be excited about :w00t:

 

Thanks TT

 

Sorry to disappoint you Suggy but the album is for me :P ;)

We are all relying on your detective work Sunday. :D

Hello everyone .... posting for the first time in years! Sorry and I'll try and visit more. I do wonder what this could be and just hope that we get to hear it.

Hello everyone .... posting for the first time in years! Sorry and I'll try and visit more. I do wonder what this could be and just hope that we get to hear it.

 

Hi Carol, nice to see you over here! :cheer:

 

Roll on tomorrow night, hopefully a nice chunk of Will!

Hi Carol, nice to see you over here! :cheer:

 

Roll on tomorrow night, hopefully a nice chunk of Will!

 

Yes i'm looking forward to hearing Will. I must record it in case I forget (old age) :lol:

 

Simon Fuller, the entrepreneur who turned Pop Idol into the world’s most valuable television format, has warned that too many copycat shows are killing the talent show genre.

 

Fuller, who manages Andy Murray and the Beckham “brand” alongside his extensive television and music interests, said that the “auditions before celebrity judges” format, which has dominated prime-time schedules for a decade, needs reinventing.

 

“When you have such huge success everyone wants to copy and make their own version and ultimately that will be the death of the format,” said Fuller, who launched Pop Idol in the UK in 2001 and then established American Idol as the number one-rated show in the United States.

 

Giving a rare interview to a Radio 2 profile, "The Fuller Picture", broadcast on Wednesday night, Fuller said that Pop Idol, which was replaced on ITV by Simon Cowell’s The X Factor in 2004, could never return to UK screens.

 

“The problem is the marketplace is so cluttered now with shows like this that maybe that day is past. It probably should have come back to England – there were a lot of reasons why that didn’t happen.”

 

The Idols format aired in 150 countries and was valued at $8 billion. But When Cowell, who found US fame as an American Idol judge, quit to launch rival show The X Factor, Fuller launched a copyright battle over similarities he identified between the shows.

 

Reflecting on American Idol’s success, Fuller, 53, who guided The Spice Girls to global fame and enjoys an estimated wealth of £375m, said: “It may have got a bit out of hand at some point and maybe now people should look to new ways of finding great talent. I’ll just have to come up with the next big thing to replace it.”

 

Talent shows have exhibited signs of audience fatigue. American Idol suffered a ratings slump in its 12th season last year, forcing Fuller to axe a judging panel which included Mariah Carey and Nicki Minaj, because “the chemistry wasn’t right”. The UK 2013 X Factor final achieved the lowest ratings for a finals results show since 2005.

 

The BBC1 series The Voice returns for a third run this weekend, with Kylie Minogue joining the judges, after failing to uncover a major singing star. ITV has bought a new Israeli format, Rising Star, which it will air next year, alongside The X Factor and Britain’s Got Talent.

 

Fuller told the Radio 2 documentary that he launched Pop Idol to create new singing stars who would not be reliant on support from radio stations and other tastemakers because they were already famous through their prime-time exposure on television.

 

He continues to manage the 2002 winner Will Young and recently added Sir Bradley Wiggins to his XIX Entertainment empire which looks after David and Victoria Beckham, Lewis Hamilton, Andy Murray and Annie Lennox.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertai...ws-9044581.html

 

No good relying on Cowell to come up with something original.

Edited January 8, 201411 yr by truly talented

2nd part of the Fuller Picture at 10pm tonight.

I'll be listening. :D

2nd part of the Fuller Picture at 10pm tonight.

 

Thanks for the reminder TT :)

 

Definitely the best programme of the 3, less bitty and more of an interview. It sheds more light on Will's move to Island with Simon being a partner. Listening to Chris Blackwell speak it sounds as if he and Simon sing very much from the same hymn sheet. Both seem interested in working with artists in it for the long haul and helping them achieve their potential. Probably why Will says he feels under no pressure with the new label. Simon is also likely to understand Will's need to diversify as he is very similar.

 

I wonder if Simon has learned valuable lessons from his early management of the spice Girls ansd S Club 7 where he was obviously very controlling but was aware that such huge success was never going to last or maybe it's just horses for courses and views those on his books as individuals.

 

Also thought it was interesting that Simon Fuller said he advised David Beckham about less being more. I've long thought it a plan with Will to hold things backand always leave the audience wanting more.

From Digital Spy.

 

This week, BBC Radio 2 broadcast the second in a two-part series on music manager/TV producer/all-round entrepreneur Simon Fuller, called The Fuller Picture (see what they've done there?).

 

As the man behind such monumental movements as the Spice Girls and the American Idol franchise, what was particularly exciting about the show was that it was Fuller's first ever proper interview about his career.

 

Of course, it also featured a selection of his clients - including Victoria and David Beckham, Will Young, Cathy Dennis and various industry heads - bigging up his talents, though given how much he's achieved in his career and how much he's shied away from the spotlight, it's easy to see why.

 

Below are the most interesting things we learnt from the programme, which covered the early days in his career working at a record label to being sacked by the Spice Girls and beyond.

 

1. He named his famous management company 19 after his first single release with Paul Hardcastle in 1985, which topped the charts around the world and was a top 20 hit in the US. Unsurprisingly, he admitted: "We made so much money from that song."

 

 

2. When he signed Cathy Dennis in the late '80s he had visions of selling her as a pop puppet who sang whatever he told her to sing. Much to his surprise, she declined and insisted she wrote her own songs, which turned out to be a much better idea in the end. She's still signed to him as a songwriter today and has written eight UK number one singles, including Kylie Minogue's 'Can't Get You Out Of My Head', Britney's 'Toxic', and Katy Perry's 'I Kissed A Girl'. "He's a great role model as a person as much as a manager," she said.

 

3. He signed Annie Lennox as a solo artist in the early '90s but they've never formally signed a contract. She said: "I'm not on his roster. He doesn't need me financially. He lets me do whatever I want - I don't know any other managers who would stand for that."

 

4. He was pretty confident about the Spice Girls from the beginning. "They were like a whirlwind," he explained. "The power they had together was impressive. Girls were more confident and outspoken... these girls reflected a spirit I saw coming. They wanted to be the biggest pop group in the world."

 

5. Fuller claims Lennox helped shape the Spice Girls, telling them to ham up their personalities to become individuals within the group.

 

5. While the Spice Girls' label Virgin spent $10 - $15 million marketing them, Fuller claims Pepsi shelled out around $100,000,000 for their endorsement campaign, which essentially kick-started the idea that brands could pay artists to sell their products globally.

 

6. He admitted being sacked by the group came "somewhat out of the blue", adding: "My initial reaction was shock and fine, OK, sod them. They're missing out on having the best manager in the world." He also revealed that he had plans for a second film and third album that would have "set each of them up with solo careers beautifully". We wonder which members of the group are kicking themselves now.

 

7. One of the most interesting revelations was that Fuller described his next project, S Club 7, as a sort of continuation of the Spice Girls, but without trying to replicate it. He said: "S Club was this equality of boys and girls, very positive, very uplifting, it didn't have the edge of the Spice Girls. I didn't want to repeat it." In fact, listening back to some of S Club's ballads, it's not difficult to imagine them as Spice Girls songs.

 

 

8. Whilst working on S Club 7, he revealed that he was "a half step away from the High School Musical thing", which we're sure would have earned him a bob or two.

 

9. One thing that particularly surprised us was his involvement in the early days of Amy Winehouse. It was revealed that he insisted she signed a record deal unique at the time in that it gave her a higher royalty. "She was so passionate about music," he said. "Her heroes Billie Holiday... you could just see that she'd really studied them and had crafted the art of singing. She was sweet, very funny, very opinionated and she stood out from a crowd even in those early years."

 

10. He almost managed Michael Jackson during his 'This Is It' comeback, but insisted that he didn't want him to tour. He said: "I had lots of ideas, and I think about it actually every now and again about what I was going to do with him and they were very different to anything he'd done previously and it wasn't about touring for sure."

 

 

11. After recently failing to acquire Parlophone Records ("You learn more in failure than you do in success") he started a new venture called Blackwell-Fuller with the founder of Island Records that now makes him co-owner of Bob Marley's estate. Fuller also explained that he is keen to work on a new music project but is "tempering [his]excitement until [he] works out what its future is", adding: "An artist needs complete control. One day things will shift back very prominently to the artist, and that will be a great day."

 

12. Finally, in what seemed to summarise his character perfectly, Victoria Beckham admitted that Fuller would be the first person she would call if she was thrown in jail, because she believes he's the only person who could get her out.

Thanks TT :D really enjoyed that DS review of the interview.

From Digital Spy.

 

 

Thanks TT. That's good to keep. :cheer:

I bet Simon Fuller is happy his old rivals XF USA has been cancelled. My cynicism around Cowell makes me think the timing of the announcement that he's 'resting' it around the time of this baby and his return to XF UK is not an accident.

 

Meanwhile American Idol which concentrates properly on vocal talent is still going strong.

I bet Simon Fuller is happy his old rivals XF USA has been cancelled. My cynicism around Cowell makes me think the timing of the announcement that he's 'resting' it around the time of this baby and his return to XF UK is not an accident.

 

Meanwhile American Idol which concentrates properly on vocal talent is still going strong.

 

I agree. Nothing Cowell does is by chance. I really dislike that odious little man.