Gary is practically what every man should be like and, because they can't be like him, they attack him and try to diminish him. And women who don't like him are plainly weird ... or with some weird male specimens at home :P Sorry for the rant, had to get it off my chest, cause I was a bit enraged after some comments I've seen.

 

Well my husband is a man - he's always disliked Take That (in fact - he hates ALL celebrities) he particularly took a further dislike to him regarding his mean money affairs! I'm a woman, I used to like him (or rather I felt sorry for him in the 'wilderness years') then was happy for him (all of them) with their triumphant return - also the music (with BW and TC at least) was pretty impressive. I went totally off Barlow when he was the Tory poster boy (yes - given his back ground from Frodsham - I assumed he was a tory - and that's great - I have loads of friends who vote for varying political parties) but to go out on the campaign trail with someone who wants to dismantle the health service and take away from the most vulnerable people in society - and THEN to go on some sort of self-promoting God-status with hypocritical charity work (he'd actually started before though - which raised suspicions).

 

Frankly - I think all YOU people who think the sun shines out of Gary Barlow's arse are the truly weird ones! :angry:

My comment was not meant as a dig at Mark. Like I said, I do understand that he has his fanbase and that his fans have the right to be pleased, just like Gary's fans. I mentioned it in another post: I was speaking from a strictly commercial, objective point of view, which is why it may have come across a bit too harsh.

 

I understand what you are saying, and we obviously see things quite differently :) I really hope there is more to TT, and how they make their decisions, than them trying to figure out how to best please the respective fanbase, or how to best please the biggest fanbase. But nevermind, we will probably never agree on this subject :)

 

I noticed it too :( I don't understand why people react so badly to Gary, when there were people on tv last night who did the same as Gary and even worse things and got to walk it off. It's the only thing they can hold against Gary and they're blowing it out of proportions, like nothing I've ever seen. Gary can be with Mar, Howard and Robbie on the same stage and the only one to get all the hatred would be Gary.

I don't like to play this card too often, but, in this case, I guess it's plain, nasty jealousy. Gary is practically what every man should be like and, because they can't be like him, they attack him and try to diminish him. And women who don't like him are plainly weird ... or with some weird male specimens at home :P Sorry for the rant, had to get it off my chest, cause I was a bit enraged after some comments I've seen.

 

:o You are not really serious, are you? This is a joke, right? :blink: .

I would guess that one reason for Gary getting more hatred about this than others is because his sort of sacred image or status, which his big army of fans very much help him to achieve. I mean, the pedestal some fans put him on is actually ridiculous.

 

Back to the music:

Three is number 24 in the new mid weeks released today.

It's a shame about LITS, but this is not so bad I think.

 

I don't judge people simply on their mainstream political affiliations. I would never vote for the Tories; that said I know caring, kind people who are on the right of the political spectrum and I know people who are to the left of the political spectrum who are greedy, self serving with few redeeming features. Furthermore people have no say in either the social class they were born into or their place of birth!

 

To my knowledge Gary has never politically campaigned for the Tory party. He backed a school's music initiative and would no doubt have done the same if asked by the Labour Party, but if anyone has information to the contrary then I'm am happy to be put straight.

 

Gary has never appointed himself as ''sacred.' If any labels have been bestowed on him of that kind its largely from the media who then took great relish in knocking him down again. Of course many fans see their 'idols' as somehow perfect but that doesn't apply to just Gary fans for goodness sake. I feel some comments on this forum have been rather personal and unwarranted.

I don't judge people simply on their mainstream political affiliations. I would never vote for the Tories; that said I know caring, kind people who are on the right of the political spectrum and I know people who are to the left of the political spectrum who are greedy, self serving with few redeeming features. Furthermore people have no say in either the social class they were born into or their place of birth!

 

To my knowledge Gary has never politically campaigned for the Tory party. He backed a school's music initiative and would no doubt have done the same if asked by the Labour Party, but if anyone has information to the contrary then I'm am happy to be put straight.

 

Gary has never appointed himself as ''sacred.' If any labels have been bestowed on him of that kind its largely from the media who then took great relish in knocking him down again. Of course many fans see their 'idols' as somehow perfect but that doesn't apply to just Gary fans for goodness sake. I feel some comments on this forum have been rather personal and unwarranted.

 

Thank you for sparing me the need to post the exact same thing.

 

I don't know very much about the Tories and the Labour party in UK, but I do know that, in my very own family, we have voted political adversaries during the elections last year and nobody ended up hating anyone.

I've seen lots of people condemning Gary for no other reason than allegedly being a Tory. Now I don't know how you all find this, but I think it's highly unfair, especially when all he ever did was support a music project. Had it been funded by the Labour, I bet he would have supported it equally. Artists in Romania support politicians openly during their campaigns, but nobody cares and nobody throws dirt at them (and I dare anyone in UK to say they're having it tougher than us, because of the politicians)

Robbie has been involved in all kind of charities as well - one of them no later than last night -, he is an ambassador or whatever for UNICEF and is promoted in Australia like the ultimate icon of a healthy lifestyle and yet nobody has anything against him. The same with David Beckham, Ant and Dec and so on. So, why the chase against Gary alone, it's beyond me. It's not his fault some people have held him in high esteem and it's not his fault he can't behave like a jerk so that people stop trying to find his evil side.

I don't think it's weird that fans appreciate him for everything he has done, I do find it weird when people are so blinded by hatred that they need to find a hidden agenda behind a normal man's every action.For everything he ever does, he's a horrible Tory or he steals money from the poor or what else - it's starting to sound like a broken record. There are people out there truly despicable, with a plethora of crimes, yet you all act as if Gary had killed someone.

You all seem to ignore the fact that he's living surrounded by people. If he were to be a monster, I'm sure stories would have emerged by now.

So, until someone brings me solid evidence of how horrible he is, I'll keep being a weirdo and like him. I'm not idolising him, because I have my God to believe in, but I am respecting him for everything he has done so far.

 

And I do believe it's partly jealousy from most of his haters, whether it's conscious or not.

Edited March 14, 201510 yr by milly

Well my husband is a man - he's always disliked Take That (in fact - he hates ALL celebrities) he particularly took a further dislike to him regarding his mean money affairs! I'm a woman, I used to like him (or rather I felt sorry for him in the 'wilderness years') then was happy for him (all of them) with their triumphant return - also the music (with BW and TC at least) was pretty impressive. I went totally off Barlow when he was the Tory poster boy (yes - given his back ground from Frodsham - I assumed he was a tory - and that's great - I have loads of friends who vote for varying political parties) but to go out on the campaign trail with someone who wants to dismantle the health service and take away from the most vulnerable people in society - and THEN to go on some sort of self-promoting God-status with hypocritical charity work (he'd actually started before though - which raised suspicions).

 

Frankly - I think all YOU people who think the sun shines out of Gary Barlow's arse are the truly weird ones! :angry:

 

So, where is the evidence of his hypocrisy? Was he trying to promote himself as God even back in the 90s when he started his charity work?

Isn't it weirder to hate someone based on SUSPICIONS rather than like someone based on FACTS?

 

To my knowledge Gary has never politically campaigned for the Tory party. He backed a school's music initiative and would no doubt have done the same if asked by the Labour Party, but if anyone has information to the contrary then I'm am happy to be put straight.

 

I doubt it. When asked at the time 'are you backing Mr Cameron' I believe Gary said 'absolutely'. The only time he had any time for anything Labour was when Gordon Brown matched the amount made by the Kilimanjaro Jolly they did (this is the one that Gary spent £50K to bring his pals back on a private jet for the last leg home - despite the fact that that money could have bought another 10,000 mosquito nets (I'd have been far more impressed with that) of course Barlow chose to 'flash the cash' and impress his 'friends' (who up until 2006 and the 'comeback' wouldn't have been seen dead in the same room as him.) He's an egotistical self-serving big-head and I'm just sorry I didn't see it sooner.

 

And about that music venture (at a school that was there thanks to the Labour led 'Building For Schools' initiative (which the Tories then abolished - as they will with the NHS) - whatever became of it?

 

Gary has never appointed himself as ''sacred.' If any labels have been bestowed on him of that kind its largely from the media who then took great relish in knocking him down again. Of course many fans see their 'idols' as somehow perfect but that doesn't apply to just Gary fans for goodness sake. I feel some comments on this forum have been rather personal and unwarranted

 

I agree! I object to me and my husband being labelled 'weird' because we don't fall at the feet of the God Barlow! :P

 

I doubt it. When asked at the time 'are you backing Mr Cameron' I believe Gary said 'absolutely'. The only time he had any time for anything Labour was when Gordon Brown matched the amount made by the Kilimanjaro Jolly they did (this is the one that Gary spent £50K to bring his pals back on a private jet for the last leg home - despite the fact that that money could have bought another 10,000 mosquito nets (I'd have been far more impressed with that) of course Barlow chose to 'flash the cash' and impress his 'friends' (who up until 2006 and the 'comeback' wouldn't have been seen dead in the same room as him.) He's an egotistical self-serving big-head and I'm just sorry I didn't see it sooner.

 

And about that music venture (at a school that was there thanks to the Labour led 'Building For Schools' initiative (which the Tories then abolished - as they will with the NHS) - whatever became of it?

I agree! I object to me and my husband being labelled 'weird' because we don't fall at the feet of the God Barlow! :P

 

So, you can insult someone as much as you like, with no evidence whatsoever - all you do is repeat the same thing over and over again and distort facts to fit your theory of the evil Barlow -, but you take offense when someone else calls you weird? You provoke people, but expect them to take it casually and when they don't, it's still you who gets offended.

And yes, I do think it's weird to waste time on forums belittling a certain celebrity over and over again. It's not something me or my friends are used to doing, so I do find it strange that an adult with family would spend time online hating on someone.

 

1. Not that it matters to you, but it wasn't Gary's duty to make sure that the school would be eventually opened.

Here is the video of Gary and Cameron:

If you can pinpoint one single moment where Gary made any slightly orientated political statements, I'd be very greatful. If anything, Gary seems to be distancing himself from David Cameron and he doesn't look particularly excited. All he talks about is music and education.

 

2. Gary had a private jet, why not use it after a week of hard time, especially when he was feeling so ill? What would you have had them to do, walk or swim from Africa to UK?

How do you even know he didn't donate a nice sum himself to the charity?

Edited March 14, 201510 yr by milly

So, you can insult someone as much as you like, with no evidence whatsoever - all you do is repeat the same thing over and over again and distort facts to fit your theory of the evil Barlow -, but you take offense when someone else calls you weird? You provoke people, but expect them to take it casually and when they don't, it's still you who gets offended.

 

I wasn't particularly offended Milly (I've had comments thrown at me here from some far wittier posters than yourself and just take them in my stride - as do the people I throw them back at) and I regret using the 'angry face' icon - I wasn't particularly angry - more a trifle 'amused' that you honestly appear to believe that anyone who doesn't like Barlow must be 'weird'. As Cat said in their post - it must have been an attempt on your part as a 'joke' I hope it was - as I worry for you if you truly meant it! :lol:

 

And you see - you've called me weird again in this post! Am I offended? No! I've been heckled by geniuses so silly people are no problem at all. I hope you don't mind me calling you silly - as you keep calling me weird!

Sorry Kath but your response and evidence is weak at best. A throw away comment and that equates to GB supporting and campaigning for the Tory party - really? And even if he was a Tory supporter why does that give people the right to post vile and hateful comments? Shameful that he should use some of his wealth the way he chooses. I'm sure the chronic back pain he experienced throughout the climb wasn't a factor in him wanting to get home asap? Please feel free to dictate to all the other pop stars who 'flaunt their wealth' and pour scorn on them personally!!!

 

Why, why hate on someone who you don't personally know, who is hard working, apparently well liked within the industry, who's tries to help out (tax issue aside) who's shown no bitterness towards those who ridiculed him and dealt with some hard personal problems with dignity? Can you back up your evidence that he is a 'big head' or 'egotistical by the way? If you have so much negative energy to express than I can assure you there are far more deserving candidates than Gary Barlow

 

As for the smiling faces at the end of comments what's that all about? And by the way areyou the Sheila Bilge who posts on Digital Spy - if so that explains a lot. If not, I suggest that you contact her as you have much in common.

I wasn't particularly offended Milly (I've had comments thrown at me here from some far wittier posters than yourself and just take them in my stride - as do the people I throw them back at) and I regret using the 'angry face' icon - I wasn't particularly angry - more a trifle 'amused' that you honestly appear to believe that anyone who doesn't like Barlow must be 'weird'. As Cat said in their post - it must have been an attempt on your part as a 'joke' I hope it was - as I worry for you if you truly meant it! :lol:

 

And you see - you've called me weird again in this post! Am I offended? No! I've been heckled by geniuses so silly people are no problem at all. I hope you don't mind me calling you silly - as you keep calling me weird!

 

Not at all :) Thankfully for me, I have a real life that shows me exactly what I'm worth.

As long as I manage to get my point across, I have no problems with not being a genius. In my silliness, I keep believing that it's not normal to waste my time on things I hate. But, everyone is entitled to use their time as they please, no matter what that means.

Edited March 14, 201510 yr by milly

Three climbs 7 places to 22 this week, :cheer:

 

That's great!

:cheer: :dance: :cheer:

At least let in the sun appears to be helping the album.

Three climbs 7 places to 22 this week, :cheer:

This is great! :)

 

The album is holding up quite well all considered. Guess sales are low but at least it's heading in the right direction. Pleased for them as the album is a strong one.

Keeps them in the best sellers of 2015 too which is good.

On the road to double platinum and in the HMV chart albums section. With the tour coming we should see some movement again. Wonder if we'll see an official 3rd single though. Seeing as it's traditional to have 3 from the album before a TT tour (even though it won't chart)

Edited March 15, 201510 yr by jay727

It is going to take a nice amount of time to make double platinum, as Three is hitting for the 450,000 level at the moment, i do hope it can eventually get there. With Three climbing i am hoping it will over take One Direction on the list of 2015 top date best sellers. 2015 sales will now stand on an estimate of 66,500.

It looks like III sold around 4500 copies this week.

Any sales are good, as long as they keep piling up.