There was an article saying that the residency is strictly for the 3 TT members.

I myself, would have ever only expected the three of them to do the shows. Fingers crossed Three holds a top 40 position when we see the charts later today.

I'd have been pissed if Robbie had been allowed to take advantage of this opportunity presented to the boys.

He can have his own LV show.

Me too, its for the 3 remaining members and no one else. I'm sure Robbie would have jumped on it if asked.

Me too, its for the 3 remaining members and no one else. I'm sure Robbie would have jumped on it if asked.

 

I seriously doubt it! :lol:

#39. Another week in top 40 :)

 

Why do you doubt it, Kath?

Don't underestimate Rob. I think he'd consider a Vegas residency because it's close to home and it's a big financial earner. Although to be fair to him I don't think he's that bothered about US success and quite likes the anonymity of living there.

 

I do hope it's only the three of them. They've continued without Rob and Jay and that can't have been easy. No one will ever, ever convince me than Rob didn't use them in 2010. He was struggling big time with his confidence and his reputation as a live performer had taken a big dent following a previous tour. He would have gone up in my estimation if he'd joined them in 2006 or before the BW tour, but he waited until after the colossal Circus tour, when he thought TT were finally big enough to warrant his involvement. His speech in the documentary about being bored with himself and having nothing else to say... sorry but I didn't buy it then, and I don't buy it now.

 

In my view Rob's return in 2010 was the biggest mistake made by the band in spite of the financial gain his involvement garnered and I don't believe Howard or Jay were ever completely comfortable with it.

 

On a positive note TT have been voted No 1 tour on Ticketmaster for 2015.

#39. Another week in top 40 :)

 

Why do you doubt it, Kath?

I think pride would stop him from joining even if he was asked. Also - when he joined for The Progress Tour I think it was to get his mojo back (for which I believe he was thankful to the lads) and also for the British fans who wanted it to happen. I think if he wanted to do a residency in the States - he'd want to do it under his own steam rather than as a member of a 40-something boy-band.

 

I have to say - although I think it'll be a success (and I think they'll have been paid something up-front anyway so they'll win whether it is a hit with the public or not - I do find it a rather ludicrous thing for them to do. They are a British phenomenon - a fantastically successful phenomenon - but intrinsically a British one. Although it may go down well with ex-pats and Brit/European tourists who will make their way over to the States - I really do wonder if there would be enough US fans who would make up the audience enough to say - YES - they've broken the States (albeit in a cabaret/theatre sort of setting). Yes I know that they have some US fans who have been waiting desperately for the lads to do shows over there for a long time - but the States is so massive - it may as well be 50 different countries rather than 50 territories. I'm wondering how many people from 49 States in a country nearly 10 million square kilometres in size would congregate at any one time to a show (or shows) in Nevada.

 

It may be of course that the lads know that they'll be playing largely to British fans who happen to be in the States at the time ... which leads me back to a reason why I doubt Robbie would be part of it - why would he? When he can play to huge numbers of non-British fans in their own countries (albeit he hasn't done it in the States - but as I've said - I think if he can't do it under his own steam - I doubt he'd want to do it as part of a boy-band).

 

I can't remember if it was Dylandog that said it - but I think this is a bad move (financially I think it'll be fab for them) but creatively - no.

 

And by the way - after a few listens to Hey Boy - I think most of you have been a bit harsh - it isn't that bad (and the vid was fun) and I'd rather listen to that than Adele's offering of Hello any day of the week. At least they tried something different again - and they're to be admired for going for something risky rather than an oh-so-safe ballad.

 

I still can't stand Gary Barlow though so I haven't suddenly become a fan again - I think I'm at the point now though that I can be objective about the music.

Edited December 18, 20159 yr by Kath

I still don't understand what turned you against TT, Kath, or more specifically GB? Their music is still strong, although nowhere near the quality of 2006/2009. As your dislike stemmed from a period prior to the tax issue I really struggle to see what GB did that was so abhorrent to make you feel so negative about him? I'm not saying you don't have a right to feel the way you do, just that I can't think of reasons why you would.

 

Agree about the residency. I did say it was a bad move regardless of any financial benefits. I would have preferred a number of small shows across the US, for example, New York, Boston, LA for fans who would have loved the opportunity for an intimate show. There's no way they'll break into the American market so the main reason for the residency must be a financial one. However, I have said that in their present formation they appear keen to try new things, so may I should give them the benefit of the doubt and not assume it's all based on monetary gain. :)

you are celebrating a chart peak of number 39? A LV show no one knows how big it will be and if it is successful...?

Acts like the Corrs do better chartwise.

They have to rely on ex-pats for the shows to run first, but to keep running they would need the American audience either. Can they do it? Maybe as show, but not because they are TT. What is TT anyway these days in the shows with all the effects and dancers and?

Rob could have his own show, he indicated it last year to do something in America. He was offered one some years ago, but denied. He had three world tours with 50 shows each in 3 years. He hardly need them. Aside of the reunion tears Progress was all about the money. He need a hook back then for self assurance and they needed a hook in Europe. It was successful.

And don't forget that their only publically AND critically acclaimed album, which was also successful outside the UK, is Progress.

 

I agree with Kath about Hey Boy. I like that they tried something different.

And regarding the Ticketmaster voting it sure means UK tours, does it?

Edited December 18, 20159 yr by elisabeth1973

I know it's hard to believe, Elisabeth, but, not for all of us, success is the most important thing. I'm proud of TT for simply being asked to do those shows, because it means someone appreciates them and considers them worthy of doing something only a few artists were asked to do.

I've never heard of Robbie being offered a residency in LV. It may be true, but allow me to have my doubts. Most of the Americans who leave comments on Robbie's videos say he can't sing, so I doubt he would have made an impression in America anyway.

I know that, for you, Robbie is the centre of the universe, but can't you stick to singing his praises in his appreciation thread? I promise not to come posting anything in there that would rain on your parade like you do on ours.

Yes, I feel like celebrating another week in top 40. Acts like Fleur East or Louisa who just came out of XF struggle to sell 2K after HUGE promotion, while TT have added 45k to their 400+k with only a few appearances.

I don't care if TT break new markets or not. I'll be happy if they do, but I'll also be happy if whatever they're doing stimulates them and inspires them to keep going with music.

I, for one, doubt TT are doing the LV shows for for money. Gary, at least, is rich enough for him, his kids and their kids to live happily ever after without working a single day of their lives.

And, to be fair, I've seen the boys way happier this era, despite the drop in the sales, than they were at the peak of their success, when they were with Robbie or Jay.

There is something infectious about the three of them together. They appear to be having the time of their lives and they've never seemed happier than in this past year, which is strange in one way because of the significant drop in their sales.

 

Our views are obviously based on guesswork but I believe they wanted Rob back to make amends and not for any inroads into Europe, but Rob wanted the reunion for mostly selfish reasons - nothing with alter my opinion on that.

 

Believe it or not Elisabeth, but TT really are fantastic live , whether it be a high end production or a stripped back show. They've deserved every live award in recent years for invention, production and a high commitment to their performance. I've also seen GB twice and he was excellent both times, with little or no production, just his voice, the band and a piano.

 

I've seen a number of artists, many of whom have been lauded by critics and high acclaimed in musical circles and none have come close to TT for overall pop performance. In fact some, such as Van Morrison, should hang their heads in shame for their shambolic, low energy approach and the general contempt they've shown to their audience.

 

The lll tour was very good, not the quality of BW or The Circus, but still a wonderful unforgettable live show. And yes the award relates to UK shows, but does that make it less deserving?

Elisabeth, maybe you should have a look at the Robbie forum. It might be a better fit...

 

I don't think anyone is celebrating #39, but after the mess of this re-release, at least it is still generating c.10k a week in sales

The dvd is sooooo good. The visuals, the vocals...everything is perfect.

The DVD is good but I miss the back stage stuff so next week will be interesting to see. I'm often critical of Mark's voice in particular but as least he sounds exactly the same live as on a recording.

 

If I was to critique the show I'd say it lacked some of the softness and quieter moments of BW. I would have liked a 2 or 3 ballad section in the vein of Flaws to draw the audience in and gives us a breather from the assault of the visuals. They could have had an acoustic version of Higher Than Higher with something from the old repertoire, such one of the slow B sides/Butterfly or WCIWUWU. The show went by so, so quickly that they could have held the crowds attention for another 15 minutes quite easily.

Im holding back on watching the dvd until next weekend, a Christmas treat! Album isnt top 100 here in Ireland again this week :cry:

How did the DVD do in the Irish music DVD chart? #4 this week in the UK

Sorry for all my typos - my key board has been sticking for months. I should proof read more carefully. Shopping this afternoon at two different large supermarkets. Visited the music/DVD section of each one to look for family presents and neither had the TT DVD on their shelves.

 

It certainly isn't being marketed strongly. It will be interesting to see if sales pick up after the TV show.

If you're apologizing for your typos, I should stop posting altogether, seeing how many mistakes I make :)

 

I'm disappointed to hear the dvd isn't in stores. I was sure it would have been in all stores, considering TT dvd-s usually make good Christmas gifts.

In Ireland only a top 5 gets published for dvds and Take That arent there :cry: