No song is going to do well without airplay. I still believe with proper airplay it would have made the top 5. But all we can do now is move on and hope the next single gets more support - I'll be deviated if Capital and Radio 1 snub the new single too.

A lot of my friends have come in my car and asked "who sings this" "whats this song" - and in work we play vevo on tv and people have said "when did this song come out" - people just don't know about it!

Outside of Twitter/Buzzjack/Satsworld there is nothing. No airplay. No promo. Nothing. so the fact they have probably will sell around 40,000 copies with a video made on about a £12 budget - no money was invested in dancers/performances/touring - they never had to leave London to promote the single.

It is a terrible shame such a good song has gone to #19 - but at least it charted, The Wanted had a similar single that failed to chart.

I agree at least the single will make the hits album and tour, they could have easily done an OYR and just not bothered with a fifth single. It would have been easy enough to just wait till August and the hits parade.

Edited April 13, 201411 yr by NotGivingUp

If you add in the 5k that cherry picked and 20-25k that already have the album, they probably would've been looking at a Top 5 placing. Add in better promo and airplay and #1 would've been possible. I just hope this doesn't discourage them from releasing post-album singles in the future.

If you add in the 5k that cherry picked and 20-25k that already have the album, they probably would've been looking at a Top 5 placing. Add in better promo and airplay and #1 would've been possible. I just hope this doesn't discourage them from releasing post-album singles in the future.

Oh, come on, I hate to be a negative Nancy, but you can't just pick and choose what you want to add in with "if" and "buts". "If you add in the 25k that already have the album" can't come in the same sentence as "releasing post-album singles in the future" because people who already own the album are always going to factor in to this. They didn't have better airplay, you can't just add all these hypothetical situations and there was no way they were going to get #1 even with better promo/airplay. When The Saturdays were really popular with 'Ego' and 'Higher' as post-album singles (with great airplay), they couldn't get close to a #1, so no factoring was going to push this to a #1.

 

I don't want them to be discouraged from releasing post-album singles either for the record, I just don't think adding in these "clutching at straws" type possibilities work as reasons why they should do it.

Ok, so you wanted One Shot, and we didn't release it cos we knew it was going to flop. You wanted Get Ready Get Set, but we knew it was meant to flop too. And you wanted Not Giving Up, so we've released it just to prove our point and shut your mouths for once. This is your flop, not ours. Now let's move to our brand new boring lifeless average not-even-a-grower single that will set the charts on fire this summer. Up is where we go from here!

 

The Sats.

xxx

Ok, so you wanted One Shot, and we didn't release it cos we knew it was going to flop. You wanted Get Ready Get Set, but we knew it was meant to flop too. And you wanted Not Giving Up, so we've released it just to prove our point and shut your mouths for once. This is your flop, not ours. Now let's move to our brand new boring lifeless average not-even-a-grower single that will set the charts on fire this summer. Up is where we go from here!

 

The Sats.

xxx

 

That doesn't even sound like you trying to be funny. And for a minute I thought you were Hurricane :lol:

I think had they actually had decent promo, normal radio support and treated this as the usual post album single release it definitely would have hit the top 5 and probably stuck around for a while. It's just a shame that their were so many contributing factors to this singles demise :( Atleast it could possible get one more week top 40. It's not a total shambles and to be honest, Not many artists could crack the top 20 in the first place without support from anyone so they should still be proud that it did.

I think had they actually had decent promo, normal radio support and treated this as the usual post album single release it definitely would have hit the top 5 and probably stuck around for a while. It's just a shame that their were so many contributing factors to this singles demise :( Atleast it could possible get one more week top 40. It's not a total shambles and to be honest, Not many artists could crack the top 20 in the first place without support from anyone so they should still be proud that it did.

 

I think what's more shocking is that it had barely an effect on the album which is nowhere near the top 300 :(

Edited April 14, 201411 yr by Let Go For 2nite

I think what's more shocking is that it had barely an effect on the album :(

 

I don't think it's shocking. Only fans bought the single, because only fans knew of the release. and fans already have the album. Airplay = better sales for NGU + a better boost for the album.

They will most probably be in the top-40 for a second week which I didn't expect from them, so probs to them at least on that.

18,429 first week sales. Hopefully they can improve on that by managing one more week in the top 40.

Edited April 14, 201411 yr by Joe‽assmore

Time for the next single then :coffee: ?

18,429 first week sales.

 

what did Gentleman, Disco Love, and My Heart Takes Over do in their first week?

what did Gentleman, Disco Love, and My Heart Takes Over do in their first week?

 

 

29822, 51490, 23073

 

Jay has put the figures in the sales thread.

Oh, come on, I hate to be a negative Nancy, but you can't just pick and choose what you want to add in with "if" and "buts". "If you add in the 25k that already have the album" can't come in the same sentence as "releasing post-album singles in the future" because people who already own the album are always going to factor in to this. They didn't have better airplay, you can't just add all these hypothetical situations and there was no way they were going to get #1 even with better promo/airplay. When The Saturdays were really popular with 'Ego' and 'Higher' as post-album singles (with great airplay), they couldn't get close to a #1, so no factoring was going to push this to a #1.

 

I don't want them to be discouraged from releasing post-album singles either for the record, I just don't think adding in these "clutching at straws" type possibilities work as reasons why they should do it.

 

I'm allowed to have an opinion and I don't think it's cool to tell people what they can and can't say.

 

Ego and Higher weren't held back releases so that's not really a valid point. I was trying to make the point that Not Giving Up is a quality track and its performance thus far hasn't done it justice. It is still a Top 5-worthy track and would've accomplished that under different circumstances.

We all know it could have been a huge era for the Saturdays if they followed 'What About Us' with 'Not Giving Up'. And Rob is totally right that you can't add the singles figures and album figures like that, it's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of right (or wrong) statistical methodology.

 

It's like saying: Adele's "Set Fire to the Rain" could open with 1m+ first week sales if there it was held back and it wasn't for an album which had come out and stolen the sales before.

 

Meanwhile I think they will end up at about #37 this week which is GOOD under the current circumstances.

Edited April 15, 201411 yr by V▲GIN▲ OF ▲RSE

I don't think Not Giving Up would have served as a good 2nd single - it was too similar. I think Disco Love would have been better as a 2nd single followed by Not Giving Up. They would have 3 top 3 singles and the album would have gone gold.

Ha! And they are indeed at #37 in Tuesday midweeks.

Ha! And they are indeed at #37 in Tuesday midweeks.

 

 

Hopefully they can hold on. It will be somewhat positive if they can remain top 40 despite no support and entering so low. I was expecting anything between 50 - 70.

I don't think Not Giving Up would have served as a good 2nd single - it was too similar. I think Disco Love would have been better as a 2nd single followed by Not Giving Up. They would have 3 top 3 singles and the album would have gone gold.

 

What About Us and Not Giving Up sound nothing alike?? I keep seeing this argument.

 

The reason they didn't release Not Giving Up after What About Us was probably because a) They wanted to take a risk with their new found popularity and release Gentleman and b) Frankie was pregnant and Rochelle was on maternity leave so they couldn't be arsed with choreography and a fast paced music video. Frankie was then going to be missing for the album launch so they released Disco Love without any of her vocals and that again pushed Not Giving Up back.