May 18, 201411 yr Votematch for the European elections: http://uk.votematch.eu/ I matched up best with the Conservatives, on a total of 18/30 (just one point ahead of Labour) :drama: No idea how that happened.
May 18, 201411 yr Author Votematch for the European elections: http://uk.votematch.eu/ I matched up best with the Conservatives, on a total of 18/30 (just one point ahead of Labour) :drama: No idea how that happened. I did the Northern Ireland one - Sinn Fein was my best match (albeit with 15/30), and unsurprisingly, UKIP was my worst match. When I tried the UK one a few weeks ago, Liberal Democrats were my best match, with once again UKIP being my worst match. Interesting food for thought, even if it is unlikely to alter whom I intend to vote for - I'm still very much down to about 4 different parties/candidates vying for my 1st preference vote.
May 18, 201411 yr Votematch for the European elections: http://uk.votematch.eu/ I matched up best with the Conservatives, on a total of 18/30 (just one point ahead of Labour) :drama: No idea how that happened. :D! Putting a fiver on that this is your Silas SNP moment.
May 18, 201411 yr I also got Scottish Greens (although only 21/30), closely followed by Labour followed by the SNP. I've felt that Labour and the SNP are the parties most similar to each other, differing mostly on that one key issue.
May 18, 201411 yr I also got Scottish Greens (although only 21/30), closely followed by Labour followed by the SNP. I've felt that Labour and the SNP are the parties most similar to each other, differing mostly on that one key issue. Vote in the East Midlands :angry:
May 18, 201411 yr Votematch for the European elections: http://uk.votematch.eu/ I matched up best with the Conservatives, on a total of 18/30 (just one point ahead of Labour) :drama: No idea how that happened. I did that a couple weeks ago and the best match was with the Greens. UKIP, predictably, were last.
May 20, 201411 yr Just over 24 hours to go now. Time for some PREDICTIONS LOVES 1. Seat composition (there are 70 up for grabs in the mainland UK, up from 69 in 2009) 2. Vote shares For guidance, in 2009 it went: 25 (27.7%) Conservatives 13 (16.6%) Ukip 13 (15.8%) Labour 11 (13.8%) Lib Dems 02 (08.1%) Greens 02 (06.3%) BNP 02 (02.1%) SNP 01 (00.8%) Plaid Cymru 00 (08.6%) Others FURTHER guidance: percentages won't necessarily always logically add up to seats because of the d'Hondt regional list system. OBSERVE http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/2009_Euro_ElectionMap.png/525px-2009_Euro_ElectionMap.png Hence, the SNP almost certainly won't get above 5% of the vote but could well end up with 3 seats, while the Lib Dems and the Greens could get double the SNP's vote and conceivably end up with just one or two as their support would be spread more thinly across the country.
May 21, 201411 yr My guess: 23 (29%) Ukip 21 (27%) Labour 17 (23%) Conservatives 03 (7%) Greens 02 (7%) Lib Dems 03 (3%) SNP 01 (1%) Plaid Cymru 00 (1%) BNP 00 (4%) Others (Which adds up to 102% but only because of rounding)
May 21, 201411 yr Do we have a preference system on the ballot paper? I'm sure I read that somewhere, but that would mean any party without a seat would technically get 0 votes that are actually counted? Like, I've got no idea how that fits into the d'Hondt method. I think: 24 / 31% UKIP 19 / 26% Labour 19 / 25% Conservatives 2 / 6% Greens 2 / 6% Lib Dems 3 / SNP 3 / Northern Ireland and I'm ignorant and I've got no idea what's going on there 1 Others I'm really struggling to see where Labour will pick up more than 6 seats: I feel like UKIP will steal many seats that they would've otherwise gained from.Lib Dem wipeout/Conservative losses. I think a higher turnout than last time will keep the UKIP vote share from getting ridiculously high.
May 21, 201411 yr Do we have a preference system on the ballot paper? I'm sure I read that somewhere, but that would mean any party without a seat would technically get 0 votes that are actually counted? Like, I've got no idea how that fits into the d'Hondt method. I think: 24 / 31% UKIP 19 / 26% Labour 19 / 25% Conservatives 2 / 6% Greens 2 / 6% Lib Dems 3 / SNP 3 / Northern Ireland and I'm ignorant and I've got no idea what's going on there 1 Others I'm really struggling to see where Labour will pick up more than 6 seats: I feel like UKIP will steal many seats that they would've otherwise gained from.Lib Dem wipeout/Conservative losses. I think a higher turnout than last time will keep the UKIP vote share from getting ridiculously high. Nah, it's not a preferential voting system. Here's a hypothetical to show how d'Hondt works. Let's say there are six seats. Let's say the results were: Ukip 400,000 Labour 360,000 Con 280,000 Green 170,000 Lib Dem 130,000 Ukip win the first seat. As a result, for future seat calculations, their vote is divided by two, so in calculating the second seat it looks as follows: Labour 360k Con 280k Ukip 200k (1) Green 170k Lib Dem 130k Labour win the second seat and their vote is halved. Con 280k Ukip 200k (1) Labour 180k (1) Green 170k Lib Dem 130k Ditto Conservatives. Ukip 200k (1) Labour 180k (1) Green 170k Con 140k (1) Lib Dems 130k Ukip win their second seat. Their ORIGINAL vote total is now divided by three for future calculations (and if a third seat is won, the original total is divided by four, if a fourth then divided by five, ad infinitum) Labour 180k (1) Green 170k Con 140k (1) Ukip 133.3k (2) Lib Dems 130k Labour win their second seat. Ditto. Green 170k Con 140k (1) Ukip 133.3k (2) Lib Dems 130k Labour 120k (2) The Greens take the last seat, making it Ukip 2, Lab 2, Con 1, Gr 1. Preferential would be utterly mental under this system (although obviously really *.* at the same time). I think d'Hondt gets a pretty bad rap - it sounds really complicated at first but it's not actually that hard to understand.
May 21, 201411 yr Author 3 / Northern Ireland and I'm ignorant and I've got no idea what's going on there I'm predicted seats for Sinn Fein and DUP, with either the UUP or SDLP fighting for the final seat, with UUP just about pipping it.
May 21, 201411 yr Do we have a preference system on the ballot paper? I'm sure I read that somewhere, but that would mean any party without a seat would technically get 0 votes that are actually counted? Like, I've got no idea how that fits into the d'Hondt method. I think: 24 / 31% UKIP 19 / 26% Labour 19 / 25% Conservatives 2 / 6% Greens 2 / 6% Lib Dems 3 / SNP 3 / Northern Ireland and I'm ignorant and I've got no idea what's going on there 1 Others I'm really struggling to see where Labour will pick up more than 6 seats: I feel like UKIP will steal many seats that they would've otherwise gained from.Lib Dem wipeout/Conservative losses. I think a higher turnout than last time will keep the UKIP vote share from getting ridiculously high. I forgot to ask - which 'Other' do you think will get a seat?
May 21, 201411 yr The UKIP party broadcast makes me so angry. Such a pack of complete and utter bullshit. HOW are people buying this??? Seriously "we don't control our borders" bullshit. Last time I checked we weren't in the Schengen area and thus had full control over our borders. How do we have FULL control over our borders when anyone from any EC country can come here? Yes we have control over Africans, Asians etc but any European can waltz in here, just like from Ireland that you mention, and take benefits, healthcare and council housing. UKIP are spot on about Europe and that's why people, including the three in our household, will be voting for them tomorrow. Full control is what Australia has whereyou've to apply, they check and can refuse anyone from entering. Edited May 21, 201411 yr by Common Sense
May 21, 201411 yr I think d'Hondt gets a pretty bad rap - it sounds really complicated at first but it's not actually that hard to understand. It's also not as proportional as it thinks it is but hey ho. 23 (29%) Ukip 23 (28%) Labour 17 (22%) Conservatives 02 (7%) Greens 01 (6%) Lib Dems 03 (3%) SNP 01 (1%) Plaid Cymru 00 (1%) BNP 03 (4%) Others Eternal optimist.
May 21, 201411 yr How do we have FULL control over our borders when anyone from any EC country can come here? Yes we have control over Africans, Asians etc but any European can waltz in here, just like from Ireland that you mention, and take benefits, healthcare and council housing. UKIP are spot on about Europe and that's why people, including the three in our household, will be voting for them Full control is what Australia has where they ckeck and can refuse anyone from entering. Australia is also bloody miles away from everywhere though. Besides, it works both ways. British citizens are able to go anywhere else in the EU just as freely. I suggest you do so.
May 21, 201411 yr It's also not as proportional as it thinks it is but hey ho. 23 (29%) Ukip 23 (28%) Labour 17 (22%) Conservatives 02 (7%) Greens 01 (6%) Lib Dems 03 (3%) SNP 01 (1%) Plaid Cymru 00 (1%) BNP 03 (4%) Others Eternal optimist. PR Squared for our electoral system NOW Aside, when people predict Others who do they think will make it?
May 21, 201411 yr I can't call what half of the ConDems will get the 6th seat in Scotland or if a Green will sneaky on in there. (They do have seats in Holyrood so someone must vote for them) The other 5 will certainly go 3 SNP 2 LAB though. Think Labour might cling on to take an overall victory of 23/24 seats with UKIP on 22.
May 21, 201411 yr Nah, it's not a preferential voting system. Here's a hypothetical to show how d'Hondt works. The Greens take the last seat, making it Ukip 2, Lab 2, Con 1, Gr 1. Preferential would be utterly mental under this system (although obviously really *.* at the same time). I think d'Hondt gets a pretty bad rap - it sounds really complicated at first but it's not actually that hard to understand. Yeah I understood the method but I didn't know how preferential voting could fit into all that, but it looks like it doesn't. I forgot to ask - which 'Other' do you think will get a seat? Plaid Cymru! I left them out of the main list to confuse everyone. They're definitely an 'others' party k.
May 21, 201411 yr I can't call what half of the ConDems will get the 6th seat in Scotland or if a Green will sneaky on in there. (They do have seats in Holyrood so someone must vote for them) The other 5 will certainly go 3 SNP 2 LAB though. Think Labour might cling on to take an overall victory of 23/24 seats with UKIP on 22. It's very likely to be the Conservatives. And thank god, because if it wasn't for them UKIP would be next in line if the Lib Dems crash as they're expected to. The Greens won't be miles behind those 3 but it'd be really surprising if they got a seat.
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