Thrilling it may not be, but I actually find discussing the increased frequency of featured artists as interesting. Why can't a thread just drift that way discussion wise if people here actually want to post about it?

 

I have to be honest, I didn't even notice that discussion starting in this thread. I agree with you in that case but it seems to just be one post that no one else replied to (aside from Joseph calling it irrelevant to the thread which I do not necessarily approve of, I'm all for tangential discussion in here if it arises although maybe in this case it might be better to start a new thread especially as this one has already devolved).

Rita's credited on the song. It's still credited to her, so it counts to her #1 tally. :P

It would be more accurate to say that she has been "credited" on 4 UK No 1 singles. That, I think, is something we would all agree on. Of course they aren't "solo" No 1 singles in the strictest sense (and certainly in the historical sense) but I think it is the OCC taking liberties in wording to "create" a more interesting story for the general public.

I have to be honest, I didn't even notice that discussion starting in this thread. I agree with you in that case but it seems to just be one post that no one else replied to (aside from Joseph calling it irrelevant to the thread which I do not necessarily approve of, I'm all for tangential discussion in here if it arises although maybe in this case it might be better to start a new thread especially as this one has already devolved).

 

I'm all for discussion but that post seemed totally out of the blue and wasn't exactly related to the topic at hand anyway, so I think I was justified ~

Rita's credited on the song. It's still credited to her, so it counts to her #1 tally. :P

 

Pretty much, but it shouldn't count towards her and should count more towards DJ Fresh.

 

Anyway, what Gezza said basically.

Just out of interest, sorry to deviate once more, but how many no.1s do we accept 1D and JLS have? Does Wishing On A Star actually count?

I'm not sure what the OCC's stance on 'Wishing On A Star' is, looking on their website it doesn't look like JLS and 1D were credited on the track at the time but I don't know if that's because their database does not credit them or if it's just to save space or whatever. I certainly consider the tracks to be #1s for both as, as minuscule as their contribution was, they were clearly credited on the single release (which to me is a higher 'authority' than what the OCC claim the credit is but that's another tangent :P)

Just out of interest, sorry to deviate once more, but how many no.1s do we accept 1D and JLS have? Does Wishing On A Star actually count?

It counts for their "tallies" but they are not "solo" No 1 singles IMO :D

Because it is DJ Fresh's song. He needed a vocalist to sing the lyrics, in comes Rita. No doubt she'll be trying to cling on to this success by including it on her album, and performing it at festivals without DJ Fresh.

 

And THIS is exactly what I was getting at, even if I spiralled off a bit. Acts these days are often piggybacking on the success of their featured artists, not just giving them a break as they used to.

 

Would DJ Fresh have made number one without the Rita Ora association? Possibly not...but with two fanbases coming together...number one with a bullet...but does it count as solo or a duet?

1) In the numerous UK Chart Trivia Lists, that I compile, I credit a No.1 Hit to each Act that is

credited, (named), on it. So the DJ Fresh Feat. Rita Ora No.1 I count as being a No.1 Hit for

each of them.

 

2) As regards the 2011 X Factor Finalists No.1 - 'Wishing On A Star' - both JLS & One Direction

were given a named credit on it from the day it was released. So I count it as one of JLS's 6

UK No.1 Singles & 1 of One Directions 4 UK No.1 Singles.

 

http://goo.gl/QOBxE1

 

3) One Direction were also on the 2010 X Factor Finalists No.1 - a cover of David Bowie's 'Heroes'.

I do not credit it as a One Direction No.1 because they were not credited with it. It can only be

credited to the 2010 X Factor Finalists.

 

4) In 1983 Michael Jackson Plus The Jackson 5 had a UK No.1 Album with '18 Greatest Hits'.

8 of the Tracks were by Michael on his own, & the other 10 were by the Jackson 5. I count

it as a Michael Jackson No.1 Album, (one of his 10), & also as a No.1 Album for the Jackson 5.

(Their only UK No.1 Album).

 

5) Always I go by which Acts have a named credit on a No.1 Single or No.1 Album. What I do

not do is work out how much each Act sang on the No.1, in order to give Percentage Points to

the Acts involved. It is messy to do that & it is far easier to simply give each Act - named in

the credits - an equal claim to that No.1.

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And THIS is exactly what I was getting at, even if I spiralled off a bit. Acts these days are often piggybacking on the success of their featured artists, not just giving them a break as they used to.

 

Would DJ Fresh have made number one without the Rita Ora association? Possibly not...but with two fanbases coming together...number one with a bullet...but does it count as solo or a duet?

 

At the time DJ Fresh was a much more well known artist than Rita though, having had a number 1 with Louder & long running top 40 hit with Gold Dust. Rita hadn't ever charted.

Edited May 20, 201411 yr by Dobbo

Ah, well that shows my current knowledge! (*whispers* must admit that I've not even heard of DJ Fresh)

 

In that case, it is nice to see that upcoming acts are still being introduced in this way. I still think there's a lot of <relatively unknown artist> featuring <well known rapper> out there and I think my point stands that it's not so much a collaboration as popping a couple of verses of rap over the top. Rap in a 4/4 time (which is pretty much all of it) will go over the top of pretty much anything if it's a reasonably similar tempo.

 

Just my little theory :)

Must admit that more people picked the 3rd option than I expected.

imo, if an solo artist is credited on a single, then it counts as a solo hit for them. So Rita has 4 solo #1s. I prefer to use the term "as a leading artist" to describe #1s where the artist is not featured, so Rita has 3 #1s as a lead artist.