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Yes she had the best selling album of 2005, doesn't mean she's good. A lot of the thing with Kelly is tied into the medias promotion of her. She only wrote 1 of the singles she released after-all ;)

Jakey the biggest selling album of 2005 was Coldplay's X&Y, with Mariah Carey's The Emancipation Of Mimi in second place, with Kelly Clarkson being 3rd. ;)

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Green Day

 

 

RHCP are not as good a band as they were that's for sure, but they've done some bloody good albums, "BloodSugarSexMagik for me is their best effort....

 

Green Day have done the biggest album of their career (and I would say the best), so I think that they are actually starting to live up to a lot of their hype....

the biggest selling album of 2005 was Coldplay's X&Y, with Mariah Carey's The Emancipation Of Mimi in second place, with Kelly Clarkson being 3rd. ;)

 

God, that really is quite depressing..... :lol: :lol:

 

Joss Stone is NOWHERE near as good as people made her out to be ... she got very hyped, especially in the US. None of it was worth it.

Joss Stone is NOWHERE near as good as people made her out to be ... she got very hyped, especially in the US. None of it was worth it.

 

Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous really, people were making her out to be some sort of new Janis Joplin or summat....... Pleasing enough voice, but nowt really that special, and her music was pretty forgettable..... She aint no Beth Gibbons or Beth Orton either....

And the white stripes...they are massively overrated!

 

 

nonsense my friend!

 

the white stripes are one of the bands who are striving to be different, which in this day and age deserves respect!

 

however, you dont have to like them! lol

Joss Stone is NOWHERE near as good as people made her out to be ... she got very hyped, especially in the US. None of it was worth it.

 

 

true.... shes got a voice but has no soul, pretty crucial really for a soul singer!

nonsense my friend!

 

the white stripes are one of the bands who are striving to be different, which in this day and age deserves respect!

 

however, you dont have to like them! lol

 

and i dont...no the other day (going back possibly to november, a year ago) - my friend said wouold I like to go and see the White Stripes Live, I said, well yeah, okay, it could be good. She managed to (ebay) the tickets for £105 for two, with p&p - I was like...omg more than £50 to see a band whose drummer looks like she's still learning the basics.

 

I do think the White Stripes have had some catchy songs. Don't get me wrong, SOME are very simple and effective, but some are just pointless. I loved Blue Orchid, but didn't get the fascination with "My Doorbell" and their followup, which sounded just like doorbell. I admit I liked 7 Nation Army but not enough to pay so much to see them.

 

Anywhos i went, and the girl drummer, really hardly played, i thought it was a gimmick, and that she plays crappy on the records but is actually amazing at drumming and would show off in live performace. Sometimes even lagging behind the beat (in 7 Nation Army notably). She had a go at singing, and most of our group wished she hadn't cos it wasn't best tuneful. The one good thing I can say for her, is that she looked much better in the flesh than the photos I've seen of her. I wouldn't have paid £10 to see what I saw though overall - my friends who had seen them before said, they were much better at the festival she saw them at.

 

 

RHCP are not as good a band as they were that's for sure, but they've done some bloody good albums, "BloodSugarSexMagik for me is their best effort....

 

Green Day have done the biggest album of their career (and I would say the best), so I think that they are actually starting to live up to a lot of their hype....

 

Greenday - also a band i've seen live - I hated it, the music was perfect - the singing was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out. Greenday - I admit as far as their released songs go - I enjoyed, apart from american idiot - which was c**p - IMO, but funny on the first listen. I didn't really mind the gig, I loved when they performed "Time Of Your Life" - it was great - there were some great songs - and some not so good ones. I just thought their last album was so over-hyped. Btw: just in case you're interested they recorded a duet with U2, for U2's forthcoming album

 

RHCP's - now the one thing I can say for them, is that they can put on a live show. They are about a zillion times more talented live than they are on the records. But their latest album, is just c**p. The songs lack a lot of character that we are used to seeing from them (especially with the release of By The Way (album)) - I wouldn't want to go see them now...

 

The best thing about the red hot chilli peppers, is that they did a blend. I saw them with the By The Way promotional tour. They did about 2 classics to every 3 songs from the current album - which was good. They played a long set too - which no-one complained about. Ending smewhat predictably on "Give It Away" which wasn't my highlight of the night, but was still good (i don't really like that song)

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true.... shes got a voice but has no soul, pretty crucial really for a soul singer!

Agreed, good voice but she has no soul what so ever and she is all hyped up about having the "best soulfull voice of the moment"

Jakey the biggest selling album of 2005 was Coldplay's X&Y, with Mariah Carey's The Emancipation Of Mimi in second place, with Kelly Clarkson being 3rd. ;)

Well yes but that wasn't the point I was making, it was the point having the best selling album of the year doesn't mean its actually amazing.

 

Coldplay weren't #1 seller of the year in the US either... I'm pretty certain they werent anyway. Their album went x3 plat whilst Mariah released in late 2005, surely she didnt sell more than x3 in 2 months :blink: well she didn't. Mariah WAS the biggest seller over the year, I don't see how Coldplay could have done it.

Well yes but that wasn't the point I was making, it was the point having the best selling album of the year doesn't mean its actually amazing.

 

Coldplay weren't #1 seller of the year in the US either... I'm pretty certain they werent anyway. Their album went x3 plat whilst Mariah released in late 2005, surely she didnt sell more than x3 in 2 months :blink: well she didn't. Mariah WAS the biggest seller over the year, I don't see how Coldplay could have done it.

Oh yeah I get what you mean. ;)

 

If we're talking in the US then Kelly was 3rd again. Mariah being 1st, 50 Cent being 2nd and Kelly in 3rd if I remember correctly. :unsure:

Oh yeah I get what you mean. ;)

 

If we're talking in the US then Kelly was 3rd again. Mariah being 1st, 50 Cent being 2nd and Kelly in 3rd if I remember correctly. :unsure:

I'm pretty sure Kelly was 2nd...

 

*rummages*

 

EDIT: 50 was indeed 2nd...

Edited by Jake

Well he won't do as well next time around, the American market is beginning to slowly shift away from Urban music. He'll probably get his 1st single to #1 off his next album but overall the growth of digital sales over airplay in terms of priority on the chart should mean his success is reduced...

I'm pretty sure Kelly was 2nd...

 

*rummages*

 

EDIT: 50 was indeed 2nd...

Come on I remember Mariah being first, and it was her and Fiddy to the wire for 1st place, I wouldn't forget it. :lol: :P

 

Well he won't do as well next time around, the American market is beginning to slowly shift away from Urban music. He'll probably get his 1st single to #1 off his next album but overall the growth of digital sales over airplay in terms of priority on the chart should mean his success is reduced...

Like Beyoncé. :(

Well he won't do as well next time around, the American market is beginning to slowly shift away from Urban music. He'll probably get his 1st single to #1 off his next album but overall the growth of digital sales over airplay in terms of priority on the chart should mean his success is reduced...

 

I'm really glad the US is beginning to shift away from urban music. This isn't an attack on urban music, but the US charts are WAY too biased towards it and 99% of the chart consists of it. It needs more variety and most of all, for artists who aren't actually American to do well once in a while.

Mariah Carey- now there's someone who's overrated. That whole "7 octave vocal range" hype turned out to be just that- hype.

 

I can't stand her. Singing about butterflies and rainbows one minute and then making out she's ghetto the next. Her voice is supposed to be technically fine, it really does my head in. She just seems to wheeze through her songs till the end when she starts screeching. Her music isn't anything special either. It's completly generic. A bimbo who's career would probably have been far less successful if she hadn't married an ancient but rich record company boss.

Mariah Carey- now there's someone who's overrated. That whole "7 octave vocal range" hype turned out to be just that- hype.

 

I can't stand her. Singing about butterflies and rainbows one minute and then making out she's ghetto the next. Her voice is supposed to be technically fine, it really does my head in. She just seems to wheeze through her songs till the end when she starts screeching. Her music isn't anything special either. It's completly generic. A bimbo who's career would probably have been far less successful if she hadn't married an ancient but rich record company boss.

 

BRAVO.

 

I feel exactly the same as that, her voice really angers me. She slurs through the verses of her songs incoherently. And in 'We Belong Together' I like how she couldn't reach the high note on the last chorus, so she literally screams it.

I'm really glad the US is beginning to shift away from urban music. This isn't an attack on urban music, but the US charts are WAY too biased towards it and 99% of the chart consists of it. It needs more variety and most of all, for artists who aren't actually American to do well once in a while.

These days 99% if the chart isn't urban. Lets sample the top 10 for example:

 

1 (1) SexyBack – Justin Timberlake [R&B/Pop]

2 (2) London Bridge - Fergie [Hip-Hop/Pop]

3 (4) Buttons – Pussycat Dolls [R&B/Pop]

4 (3) Crazy – Gnarls Barkley [R&B/Alternative]

5 (5) (When You Gonna) Give It Up To Me – Sean Paul ft Keyshia Cole [R&B/Reggae]

6 (7) Chasing Cars – Snow Patrol [Alternative]

7 (8) Sexy Love – Ne-Yo [R&B]

8 (9) Far Away - Nickelback [Rock]

9 (18) Lips Of An Angel – Hinder [Rock]

10 (6) Promiscuous – Nelly Furtado [Hip-Hop/Pop]

 

Ne-Yo is the only really pure R&B artist there, to succeed in the US now you need to produce a song that is a crossover hit, multi formats. That way you sell more downloads and do well on the chart. Urban dominated a few years ago as single sales were non-existant, the US dropped the single and so airplay dominated the chart (which is majority urban and still is to a degree) with iTunes etc, digital sales have boomed and RIAA have made the chart more downloads leaning so it is a greater representation of the US peeps taste.

 

A good example of this is Chingy, who is Hip-Hop, #1 on airplay, nowhere on digital sales, a few years back he'd be rooted at #1 but his song isnt popular with people so it isnt topping the chart.

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