February 11, 201510 yr Well they haven't explained whether they will do any weighting for tracks with fewer than 12 tracks yet, but I suspect they will.Based on the article it seems as if they won't. I read it as being that if an album contains, for example, 10 tracks then the total to be divided by 1,000 will be 10 x the weighted average stream. I notice the OCC article refers to taking (up to) the 12 most streamed tracks on the standard version of an album. This would suggest that all additional tracks available only on a deluxe version of an album will be ignored.
February 11, 201510 yr I have to fully admit that I don't completely understand the methodology. If all the songs streams of an album are being averaged out and then divided by 1000, how does this affect singles streaming? Could the same stream technically be giving steaming sales to the album and single at the same time? Yes I think it will. Except if the track you're listening to is one of the top 2 most popular songs off the album, and it'll only contribute to the singles chart.
February 11, 201510 yr I have to fully admit that I don't completely understand the methodology. If all the songs streams of an album are being averaged out and then divided by 1000, how does this affect singles streaming? Could the same stream technically be giving steaming sales to the album and single at the same time? I believe so. Unless they subtract the weighted down averages of the top 2 tracks/singles from the streams that count towards the singles chart, you're essentially counting the same streams twice and so an artists' total sales (Album + Single sales including streams) will be somewhat inflated although not by much. Edited February 11, 201510 yr by Envoirment
February 12, 201510 yr Based on the article it seems as if they won't. I read it as being that if an album contains, for example, 10 tracks then the total to be divided by 1,000 will be 10 x the weighted average stream. I notice the OCC article refers to taking (up to) the 12 most streamed tracks on the standard version of an album. This would suggest that all additional tracks available only on a deluxe version of an album will be ignored. The standard version of albums are not always on streaming sites, in the case of Meghan Trainor for example only the deluxe version is available
February 12, 201510 yr Based on the article it seems as if they won't. I read it as being that if an album contains, for example, 10 tracks then the total to be divided by 1,000 will be 10 x the weighted average stream. I notice the OCC article refers to taking (up to) the 12 most streamed tracks on the standard version of an album. This would suggest that all additional tracks available only on a deluxe version of an album will be ignored. Surely the deluxe edition tracks would still count but only towards the streams on the deluxe version of the album? As it's easy to distinguish between the standard and deluxe versions of albums I would assume they apply the formula to both albums separatley then add the sales of both together.
February 12, 201510 yr Based on the article it seems as if they won't. I read it as being that if an album contains, for example, 10 tracks then the total to be divided by 1,000 will be 10 x the weighted average stream. I notice the OCC article refers to taking (up to) the 12 most streamed tracks on the standard version of an album. This would suggest that all additional tracks available only on a deluxe version of an album will be ignored. 1. Where does it say that? That makes no sense at all. 2. Possibly a good idea because some artists would release "streaming only" tracks which would distort the figures
February 12, 201510 yr Surely the deluxe edition tracks would still count but only towards the streams on the deluxe version of the album? As it's easy to distinguish between the standard and deluxe versions of albums I would assume they apply the formula to both albums separatley then add the sales of both together. That'd be ridiculous. Think how many versions of the album Union J would release. They'll probably just count the tracks that are available on all formats.
February 12, 201510 yr That'd be ridiculous. Think how many versions of the album Union J would release. They'll probably just count the tracks that are available on all formats. It's no different than the sales chart when they combine album versions? It's not as if fanbases can abuse that given the 10 stream cap, so people would only be able to contribute to an average of 10 streams on each album. So 10 streamsx2/1000 = 0.02 sales a day. It'd take someone 50 days in order to just get one sale counted if streaming both the standard and deluxe, so I can't see any issues with it.
February 12, 201510 yr If they're gonna introduce streaming to the album chart, they should may as well re-introduce compilations to the album chart
February 12, 201510 yr If they're gonna introduce streaming to the album chart, they should may as well re-introduce compilations to the album chart Why?? What does streaming have to do with compilations?
February 12, 201510 yr Why?? What does streaming have to do with compilations? They both slowed down the album chart
February 12, 201510 yr It's no different than the sales chart when they combine album versions? It's not as if fanbases can abuse that given the 10 stream cap, so people would only be able to contribute to an average of 10 streams on each album. So 10 streamsx2/1000 = 0.02 sales a day. It'd take someone 50 days in order to just get one sale counted if streaming both the standard and deluxe, so I can't see any issues with it. I assume they are actually limited to 10 plays per track, per album. So if a normal and deluxe version where both available separately on streaming, and if the OCC were then choosing to combine the separately calculated 'chart sales' for each together, then a fan could contribute a maximum of 20x12=240 streams towards it in a week, or 0.24 of a chart sale. So say Union J (or similar with a dedicated sizeable fanbase) have both a regular and deluxe availlable, and that the OCC decides to combine the 'chart sales' of each for the purposes of the album chart, and estimate that they have, say, 100k fans prepared to do this sort of mass streaming, then they could amass 24000 extra Album sales in a week (or 12000 per version of an album) from the addition of streaming.
February 12, 201510 yr It's kind of annoying that some artists like FKA Twigs and Jessie Ware who were consistently in the Spotify top 50 with their albums last year for some while won't benefit from this. They could really do with the sales boost. Edited February 12, 201510 yr by Joe.
February 12, 201510 yr They both slowed down the album chart I don't see your logic here Besides, I don't think anyone will miss artists who jump out of nowhere into top 20 and drop out the week after (from statistic point of view I mean, if you're a fan it's a different story :P ) I think the formula is fantastic, better than in the US. Interesting to see the results, which won't be that different to earlier sales only chart in the ten.. however, a lot will change in the lower regions of chart. This could eventually be the right formula to do this inclusion in all countries. Edited February 12, 201510 yr by SKOB
February 12, 201510 yr It's kind of annoying that some artists like FKA Twigs and Jessie Ware who were consistently in the Spotify top 50 with their albums last year for some while won't benefit from this. They could really do with the sales boost. It isn't actually boosting sales. It might boost *sales numbers* but not the sales themselves.
February 12, 201510 yr I knew this was going to happen...I just hope it doesn't have the same impact as on the singles chart and slows everything down though I can see Ed Sheeran staying top 10 for a long time with this now...
February 12, 201510 yr Can anyone work out how many extra album stream sale numbers say for example, Ed would be adding to his sales total for a week on average?
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