I think I'd just be grateful to be receiving 180K that I'd never had to work to earn... but each to their own etc.

Edited April 12, 201510 yr by dandystar

I think I'd just be grateful to be receiving 180K that I'd never had to work to earn... but each to their own etc.

 

 

Well yes but it doesn't seem right that in theory this tax can be paid over and over again on the same money! :rolleyes:

 

I think the Tory policy is a good one by the way. As I say, imo inheritance tax is a very unfair one.

Well yes but it doesn't seem right that in theory this tax can be paid over and over again on the same money! :rolleyes:

 

I think the Tory policy is a good one by the way. As I say, imo inheritance tax is a very unfair one.

It seems perfectly fair to me. I assume you would also abolish VAT on the grounds that people have already paid income tax. I hate to think how high income tax would need to be.

It is one way or another regardless though... if you earn it and spend it then it goes back into the economy and is taxed through income or capital gains or whatever else. It's a bit naive to think that money should only be taxed once, part of the function of the economy is to keep it circulating.

 

 

Essentially any tax you reduce from wealth tax will end up being paid for by other means, whether that be more tax paid in income etc or a worse standard of public services. Or both. I have literally no problem with taxing people as they pass away, they are the one type of person who categorically does not need it any longer.

Edited April 12, 201510 yr by dandystar

or nother way at looking at it is it's a Tory policy based on keeping the rich in control and in power by having children of rich people stay rich and so on and so on, while the poor get poorer, being as the paltry sums they own for cheap shit housing gets snatched away by the state the second you become infirm, and your kids get sod all, so they stay poor.

 

Why should someone who happens to have rich parents get all their riches by virtue of doing nothing other than being born? Ridiculous, that's not the Tory ethic of working hard to get the wages you deserve, that's 2-faced hypocrisy, attempts to attract traditional voters away from UKIP as the morons who are enthusiastic supporters for them are largely well-off, very poor, or badly informed on any number of issues. The rest are voting UKIP to give both Labour and Conservatives a bloody nose for being so casual and carefree in government with lots of our well-being.

 

or nother way at looking at it is it's a Tory policy based on keeping the rich in control and in power by having children of rich people stay rich and so on and so on, while the poor get poorer, being as the paltry sums they own for cheap shit housing gets snatched away by the state the second you become infirm, and your kids get sod all, so they stay poor.

 

Why should someone who happens to have rich parents get all their riches by virtue of doing nothing other than being born? Ridiculous, that's not the Tory ethic of working hard to get the wages you deserve, that's 2-faced hypocrisy, attempts to attract traditional voters away from UKIP as the morons who are enthusiastic supporters for them are largely well-off, very poor, or badly informed on any number of issues. The rest are voting UKIP to give both Labour and Conservatives a bloody nose for being so casual and carefree in government with lots of our well-being.

 

Exactly. I love the irony of them screaming about benefit-claimants getting things supposedly without having "earned" it, yet are happy for rich people to get handed these things on a plate and be excused from actually having to work for a living.

So, after a week where Labour got a boost by finally attacking the hated fat-cats, they seem to have decided to sabotage themselves again by making the main headline of their manifesto dull and uninspiring wishy-washiness about "no extra borrowing", and attacking the Conservatives for planning to spend too much on the NHS.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32279977

Edited April 13, 201510 yr by Danny

Robert Peston @Peston · 5h 5 hours ago

Gripping that @edballsmp refusing to match @George_Osborne unfunded pledge to spend £8bn more on NHS

 

They REALLY don't want to win this election do they.

A rogue poll or a sign of tides turning? A Guardian poll has given the Conservatives a 6 point lead.

A rogue poll or a sign of tides turning? A Guardian poll has given the Conservatives a 6 point lead.

The detail suggests that this is a rogue poll. It puts the Tories ahead of Labour (albeit on a very small subsample) by 3 to 1 in Scotland. It also shows the Tories ahead with DE voters (the lowest paid) and with a clear lead among C2s (the next lowest paid). The whole poll seems to have been seriously bodged.

The hilarity of the Tories taking a lead over Labour literally within hours of Labour saying they would spend less than them.

The hilarity of the Tories taking a lead over Labour literally within hours of Labour saying they would spend less than them.

And those two things are related how? The sampling for the poll finished yesterday. Your statement also assumes the poll is accurate. For the reasons I gave above, I don't think it is.

And those two things are related how? The sampling for the poll finished yesterday. Your statement also assumes the poll is accurate. For the reasons I gave above, I don't think it is.

 

I wasn't being serious :P

 

I do think if Miliband now intends to spend the rest of the election posturing about how tough he'll be on the deficit and bragging about how he'll spend less than the Conservatives, he'll eventually spark another exodus of Labour voters to Green/UKIP/SNP/non-voting, though.

The latest Ashcroft poll (published twenty minutes ago) has Lab and Con tied on 33%, UKIP 13%, LD 9% and Green 6%. That seems far more likely than the Guardian poll.

UKIP 13%?

 

Let's round 'em up and ship 'em out the country, that'll solve overcrowding. We don't want those 13% of voters here thanks xo

 

The UK Labour Party and the Scottish Labour party really need to have a sit down chat and co-ordinate their message as they are currently shooting each other in the face.

 

TNS poll today has SNP at 52%, Labour on 24% Greens on 3%, LibDem on 6%, Other on 2%, UKIP on 0% and the Tories on 13%.

 

http://www.tnsglobal.com/uk/press-release/...hc_location=ufi

 

The UK Labour Party and the Scottish Labour party really need to have a sit down chat and co-ordinate their message as they are currently shooting each other in the face.

 

TNS poll today has SNP at 52%, Labour on 24% Greens on 3%, LibDem on 6%, Other on 2%, UKIP on 0% and the Tories on 13%.

 

http://www.tnsglobal.com/uk/press-release/...hc_location=ufi

 

Miliband is going to get absolutely slaughtered by Nicola in Thursday's debate with his new message of "the Tories' cuts plans don't go far enough".

Edited April 13, 201510 yr by Danny

Ashcroft's polls have constantly rated Labour lower than most as well.

UKIP 13%?

 

Let's round 'em up and ship 'em out the country, that'll solve overcrowding. We don't want those 13% of voters here thanks xo

 

 

Don't talk so stupidly. :rolleyes: Of course we do. Everyone's entitled to an opinion and to vote for whom they like. I'm voting UKIP as a protest vote even though they've no chance here in East Ham, as we have far too much immigration. Nigel was spot on about the Aids tourists coming here and getting 25k a year treatment ande had the gutsw to say it.

Edited April 13, 201510 yr by Common Sense

Don't talk so stupidly. :rolleyes: Of course we do. Everyone's entitled to an opinion and to vote for whom they like. I'm voting UKIP as a protest vote even though they've no chance here in East Ham, as we have far too much immigration. Nigel was spot on about the Aids tourists coming here and getting 25k a year treatment ande had the gutsw to say it.

 

Tourists don't get long-term NHS care. The thing with HIV is the pills have to be forever and daily once it's decided you need them. Stop taking them, and you go back to where you started. Tourists leave the country. So they must be people who live here, and they get free NHS care as much as, say, any rich imported American banker does, the fact he's employed is irrelevant, still free health care and he's taking up a (very well-paid) job as much as any european toiling for crap wages in farmers fields so we can all have cheap food does.

 

Only difference is one of them has a useful job and the other works for organisations that bankrupt the rest of us at the drop of a hat. Let's see farage start camapaigning about all those nasty rich foreigners coming over from non-EU countries (about half of the people coming to the UK are non-EU) and taking up all those rich jobs in the city, or the film industry, or music biz, or industry leaders, or footballers, or megastore owners, or mansion-magnates, oil tycoons, or indeed his own parasitic wife getting the benefit of the NHS while being paid by the taxpayer (as indeed he is).

 

Hypocrite thy name is Farage.