Don't talk so stupidly. :rolleyes: Of course we do. Everyone's entitled to an opinion and to vote for whom they like. I'm voting UKIP as a protest vote even though they've no chance here in East Ham, as we have far too much immigration. Nigel was spot on about the Aids tourists coming here and getting 25k a year treatment ande had the gutsw to say it.

Your wife's a fucking immigrant and the overwhelming majority of HIV patients born abroad lived here before they contracted the condition you bigoted prick.

Miliband is going to get absolutely slaughtered by Nicola in Thursday's debate with his new message of "the Tories' cuts plans don't go far enough".

 

He will love it, make him look prime ministerial taking a serious position on the economy with all the left wing parties around and no DC!

He will love it, make him look prime ministerial taking a serious position on the economy with all the left wing parties around and no DC!

 

It's not a serious position, it's a right-wing position which the majority of the public don't agree with, and where in Scotland in particular there's a party tailor-made to pick up the votes of all those people who don't agree.

The big problem Labour have in Scotland is Jim Murphy. He just prances about contradicting himself and the UK party every time he opens his mouth. I think he's actually driving more support to the SNP!

Don't talk so stupidly. :rolleyes: Of course we do. Everyone's entitled to an opinion and to vote for whom they like. I'm voting UKIP as a protest vote even though they've no chance here in East Ham, as we have far too much immigration. Nigel was spot on about the Aids tourists coming here and getting 25k a year treatment ande had the gutsw to say it.

 

A protest vote? Oh hunny... now that's stupidity.

 

Haha, UKIP a protest vote - yeah just like shitting in your hotel bed to protest against bad service, and then realising you have to sleep in it. Good one Chris!

So the Tories plan to extend right to buy to housing associations. This is a political bribe for votes paid for by the tax payer yet again.

 

The morons plan to make councils pay for the discount by selling off the better housing stock needed for larger families and replace it with cheap crap. So where exactly will the current occupants of this stock go? This is financial sleight of hand and is yet another hit on councils. And the poor. Anyone who can afford a discounted council house can afford to go private. Tory tits

Your wife's a fucking immigrant and the overwhelming majority of HIV patients born abroad lived here before they contracted the condition you bigoted prick.

 

 

My wife pays full taxes unlike all these Eastern European immigrants on benefits and taking council houses.

It's not a serious position, it's a right-wing position which the majority of the public don't agree with, and where in Scotland in particular there's a party tailor-made to pick up the votes of all those people who don't agree.

It's also not his position. There's a world of difference between "where's the money going to come from" and "you should be cutting more". That difference is basically the crux of the two parties' economic plans beyond 2016. Apart from the fact that we've technically got wiggle room on massive capital spending.

 

My wife pays full taxes unlike all these Eastern European immigrants on benefits and taking council houses.

You sound like you must know a lot of them in person.

You sound like you must know a lot of them in person.

 

 

I know some and there's lots around us here in East London.

So the Tories plan to extend right to buy to housing associations. This is a political bribe for votes paid for by the tax payer yet again.

 

The morons plan to make councils pay for the discount by selling off the better housing stock needed for larger families and replace it with cheap crap. So where exactly will the current occupants of this stock go? This is financial sleight of hand and is yet another hit on councils. And the poor. Anyone who can afford a discounted council house can afford to go private. Tory tits

The Tory plan is that councils should sell their best properties as and when they become vacant. Of course, that means they have to rely on people in those properties wanting to move (or dying). Of course, as you say, it is yet another hit on councils. After all, they are effectively being asked to fund the discount on sales of their own properties and housing association properties.

 

Cameron will be interviewed by Evan Davis on BBC1 tomorrow (he did Clegg yesterday). The interview is only 30 minutes, so there won't be time to get him to explain all the flaws in the policies they have announced so far.

My wife pays full taxes unlike all these Eastern European immigrants on benefits and taking council houses.

Are they also taking all of our jobs?

It's also not his position. There's a world of difference between "where's the money going to come from" and "you should be cutting more". That difference is basically the crux of the two parties' economic plans beyond 2016. Apart from the fact that we've technically got wiggle room on massive capital spending.

 

Miliband said yesterday that the Tories were going to "spend recklessly". The obvious implication of that is that Labour would spend less.

Miliband said yesterday that the Tories were going to "spend recklessly". The obvious implication of that is that Labour would spend less.

The correct implication is that they haven't costed their plans while we have.

 

We've already announced a whole host of tax rises, so sticking to the same budget is categorically not the same as spending the same (or less).

The correct implication is that they haven't costed their plans while we have.

 

We've already announced a whole host of tax rises, so sticking to the same budget is categorically not the same as spending the same (or less).

 

There's been hardly any.

 

I feel like the manifestos the last couple of days will be seen as the turning point of the election. Labour just completely miscalculated: people don't want "credibility", they want HOPE that things are going to get better, and on that score the Tories are now getting the upper-hand (irrespective of whether they'll actually follow through on their promises). People don't want to hear nitpicking about how "realistic" or "costed" things are, they WANT to believe things are going to get better and so will take anything that politicians say at this point pretty much at face value.

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Danny, out of interest, what are thoughts on TUSC?

Danny, out of interest, what are thoughts on TUSC?

 

I actually saw before that they're standing in my seat!

 

I don't like the "hard left" usually because they tend to get obsessed with fringe issues like "nationalising the railways" or "abolishing Trident" (or batshit conspiracy theories about 9/11).

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I don't like the "hard left" usually because they tend to get obsessed with fringe issues like "nationalising the railways"

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People don't want to hear nitpicking about how "realistic" or "costed" things are, they WANT to believe things are going to get better and so will take anything that politicians say at this point pretty much at face value.

You what? If anything people have lost faith in politicians overpromising and underdelivering. Actually showing how you're going to bring about the change you're promising by saying how you'll pay for it is always worth more than just sounding off like some Green Party freak promising the moon with no idea or plan for how to get there.

You what? If anything people have lost faith in politicians overpromising and underdelivering. Actually showing how you're going to bring about the change you're promising by saying how you'll pay for it is always worth more than just sounding off like some Green Party freak promising the moon with no idea or plan for how to get there.

 

So you think the last couple of days have gone well for Labour, then?