OPINION POLLS 2017

February 17, 20187 yr

I'm gonna predict a 46% (nearly 50%!!) win for Labour in the next election.

It's a shame the spineless Tories pressed ahead with that grubby vote, just to save themselves, as without the Brexit buoy they would be FAWWWWWKWWED in the polls.

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February 17, 20187 yr

It's unusual not to see the opposition with a significant lead at this stage in a parliament, though. It's like there's a glass ceiling for Labour at the 40-42% level...

Agreed it's probably due to the polarising effect a Corbyn leadership is having on the most spineless of voters the striving middle classes or Essex man as TB used to call them post 1992. But post Brexit we have gone back to a big 2 parties so it's a different playing game now!

February 17, 20187 yr

Labour is currently a much more left-wing party than it has been in 30 years. That is not the norm.

The Lib-dems are centre-left not centre-right. The Nick/Cameron years were as a result of the Brown & Blair years and the electorate, not as a matter of policy leaning.

The Tories are more right-wing than they have traditionally been, currently.

Nothing is forever in politics, and if the left-wing balls things up they will be dumped like a sack of lead potatoes same as they were last time round.

I would argue the LDs are a mix of left social democrats and more right wing orange book liberals like Clegg, Laws etc

February 18, 20187 yr

I'm gonna predict a 46% (nearly 50%!!) win for Labour in the next election.

It's a shame the spineless Tories pressed ahead with that grubby vote, just to save themselves, as without the Brexit buoy they would be FAWWWWWKWWED in the polls.

IMO that prediction is wildly optimistic - even Blair only got 43% in his 1997 landslide win - they haven't had more than 44% since 1966.

Did you mean the Referendum or the 2017 GE? Either way, Labour & Tories were pretty much neck & neck in the year before the referendum, so I don't see why you think the lack of a referendum would have changed that?

February 25, 20187 yr

This is about a month late, but it is from a source you should consider acceptable :

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/j...exit-poll-finds

February 25, 20187 yr

Wait for tomorrow.

A Labour change of policy speech is coming.

I think it'll be full remain/ 2nd ref on deal/ customs union.

With this clarification, hopefully Labour storms ahead even more.

The UK's song to the Tories rn:

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February 25, 20187 yr

I think they might misinterpret that title!

February 25, 20187 yr

Agreed. We need something they can't misinterpret. like this:

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February 25, 20187 yr

I think they might misinterpret that title!

Oh no!! :lol: Didn't even notice :lol:

Lily Allen it is!

Also loling at how well the JoJo lyrics can cover the public/ Tories' relationship right now

February 26, 20187 yr

Wait for tomorrow.

A Labour change of policy speech is coming.

I think it'll be full remain/ 2nd ref on deal/ customs union.

With this clarification, hopefully Labour storms ahead even more.

What if they did - the Brexit process will be over by the time of the next GE, so any change of policy like the one you suggest will be irrelevant.

February 26, 20187 yr

What if they did - the Brexit process will be over by the time of the next GE, so any change of policy like the one you suggest will be irrelevant.

Commons defeat over Brexit.

A new GE

Wait and see. Tory rebels won't let her get away with this one. They won't be happy with this alt right coup in this country either.

February 27, 20187 yr

Commons defeat over Brexit.
A new GE

That wouldn't force a GE, only a no-confidence vote could do that - and I can't see Tory turkeys voting for Xmas!

Wait and see. Tory rebels won't let her get away with this one. They won't be happy with this alt right coup in this country either.

Then it's just as well there isn't one. 'Alt-Right' AIUI means extreme-right : BNP, National Front, Britain First, etc, not merely mainstream Right.

February 27, 20187 yr

That wouldn't force a GE, only a no-confidence vote could do that - and I can't see Tory turkeys voting for Xmas!
Then it's just as well there isn't one. 'Alt-Right' AIUI means extreme-right : BNP, National Front, Britain First, etc, not merely mainstream Right.

NO. NO. NO.

Mainstream right is what New Labour was.

This is Hard Right. It is a coup of the Hard extreme alt right: hard Brexit, no workers' rights, selling the NHS, no social responsibilities, rights for the rich.

Alt right.

Popchartfreak, what is the name of the phenomenon where what is seen as right/ centre-ground moves over time due to successive governments/ media coverage shifting the 'norm'?

Yes, and those Tory rebels will put COUNTRY first, not Mad May first. General Election. Soft/ maybe no brexit. Bye bye Tories.

February 28, 20187 yr

Popchartfreak, what is the name of the phenomenon where what is seen as right/ centre-ground moves over time due to successive governments/ media coverage shifting the 'norm'?

It's called the Overton Window.

March 1, 20187 yr

It's called the Overton Window.

From my pov, it has gradually shifted left over time.

March 1, 20187 yr

From my pov, it has gradually shifted left over time.

Then you are wrong.

March 1, 20187 yr

Then you are wrong.

Are you seriously claiming that the ever-growing influence of PC represents a movement to the *Right*? :wacko:

To expand on this : I don't think anyone would disagree that political correctness has leftist roots, or that it's effects have been increasing over time - so to declare me wrong, you must therefore believe that right-wing influences have overridden that.

So, which influences would those be?

Edited March 1, 20187 yr by vidcapper