Now, one thing this HAS to address is an LGBTQ character. It's long been a ridiculous aspect of Trek that it's never dealt with this (and whilst I can accept the whole, well in the 24th Century it isn't an ISSUE thing) and this will surely resolve that if they have any sense.

 

Definitely. When you consider the opportunities they've had to make one it seems really weird that nothing has cropped up besides pussyfooting the issue through alien biology and then refusing to make explicit reference. Although I'd want them to subvert it... basically when they do it, they need to be careful with it and I'm worried that as they've gone so long without an LGBT character they'll make an obvious caricature - which is why I'd support a first officer character being THE ONE, I doubt even to be progressive they'd have a gay captain and giving them authority reduces that chance and, like, Chakotay would be my ideal pick if I had to make any one existing Trek character gay. Although if it's an anthology then that'd toss all character expectations out of the window, that's just working from the standard crew model.

Of course, at this point in the franchise such a huge spotlight will be shone on it that it could just as easily end up being worse having one than not. On balance I'm quite confident with what Fuller will end up doing, he's shown time and again he can bring nuance to otherwise fairly 2D characters (Hannibal Lecter, for example, has huge depth and complexity whereas Hopkins played him by and large as a scenery chewing freak).

 

The Flash did what I'd like them to do with this, the Captain of the CCPD is gay, but they just talk about it like it isn't a thing, everyone still respects him and it's just life as normal. Which is, of course, exactly how it should be and one would HOPE it will be in the future, especially the Roddenberry future.

The Flash did what I'd like them to do with this, the Captain of the CCPD is gay, but they just talk about it like it isn't a thing, everyone still respects him and it's just life as normal. Which is, of course, exactly how it should be and one would HOPE it will be in the future, especially the Roddenberry future.

 

I watch The Flash every week and I hadn't even realised it was referenced that he was gay!

 

But yes Trek really should do something. One kiss between and Dax and her ex is really not enough considering their output. Although I always had the impression Riker was game for anything.

I watch The Flash every week and I hadn't even realised it was referenced that he was gay!

 

They haven't mentioned it in S2, but it was mentioned in a couple of S1 episodes. Once just an offhand my husband comment and another in episode 16 I think were Barry travelled back in time after the tsunami.

I echo Michael in that something similar to voyager would be good but perhaps with a much darker plot. Voyager was my go to Trek Series. It still is really but watching it now I do realise that the premise of being lost was never fully capitalised on at all except for the born episodes.

 

I saw the trailer for the new series. The only thing that was kind of making me wonder was that they used the original series opening theme through the advert. I'm not here for an original series updated reboot thanks!

I echo Michael in that something similar to voyager would be good but perhaps with a much darker plot. Voyager was my go to Trek Series. It still is really but watching it now I do realise that the premise of being lost was never fully capitalised on at all except for the born episodes.

 

I saw the trailer for the new series. The only thing that was kind of making me wonder was that they used the original series opening theme through the advert. I'm not here for an original series updated reboot thanks!

 

Edit - oh wait that's what the new movies are and I've really enjoyed them so I guess it would be fine as long as it was nothing like Enterprise. That really is my least fave series of them all.

 

Enterprise is definitely flawed but the show starting to get interesting just as they canned. Seasons 5 and 6 were intended to show the Earth Romulan war with T'pol discovering she was part Romulan. Season 7 was to show how they founded the Federation.

As I've said elsewhere (possibly even page one of this very thread) NO Trek show ever got it 'right' until about midway through S3/early S4. They may have had the odd episode before that, but it wasn't to any consistent level. S2 of TNG is just really, really bad. DS9 was probably the closest to being consistent throughout, but even then once the war kicked off it jumped up a few gears.

 

Enterprise S3 was still pretty flawed, but it was a good idea, it just would have worked better with maybe a 13 episode season. S4 was really very good indeed, the cast all had a handle on their characters and the stories were more complex and interesting and the multi-episode arcs really helped. THAT series finale though doesn't really merit thinking about (bar the emotional and rousing final 45 seconds or so with the Trek fanfare, which was a nice send-off to everyone BAR the Enterprise crew).

You know, out of all of them, I think it's Voyager that possibly had the best S1 but they ruined it with a pretty awful S2. DS9 S1/2 has some great episodes but also quite a few bad ones, mostly times where they tried to be like other Trek and have standalone weak sci-fi plots (and even as much as I love the characters they don't help crap like If Wishes Were Horses there). I guess they all just needed time to get a handle on the characters but all of them aside from Enterprise are damn lucky they survived past the first couple of seasons when you consider some of what's there.

 

I also can't deny what could have been with Enterprise is pretty frustrating, the three seasons we lost could have been brilliant.

DS9 is most consistent overall, there are no episodes I can't rewatch - unlike all the other shows - and Enterprise was better than I initially rated it, especially as it went on.

 

The gay character thing in Trek is glaringly huge now and it would be difficult to suddenly feature it with no explanation. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they refer back to genetic wars where the dna trait was seriously interfered with illegally by Khan-type genetic superiority in order to get a Get Out Of Jail Free card. It's the only possible way out considering the vast numbers of human beings that have featured in all of the shows without a single gay character EVER (let's not speculate on alien species). Either the Federation is running a homophobic policy for 150 years (which undermines the whole philosophy) or else they have to face the issue head on with an excuse and have it a major part of the storyline ie historical guilt, remorse, understanding and an explanation why it has been so rare previously. Or they could just go the homophobic Federation route (learns the error of its ways).

DS9 is most consistent overall, there are no episodes I can't rewatch - unlike all the other shows

 

Even some of the ones like Profit and Lace and Meridian? I'm on a full rewatch because I like torturing myself to fill in every gap, I'm just at the end of 1992 Trek (DS91/TNG6), and while I thought there was maybe one unwatchable DS9 episode per season, seeing a few episodes now I'm much older has made me realise that it's not entirely infallible. Although a lot of that is knowing how great DS9 can be when it's doing arc stuff so I'm probably a lot harsher on the stories that don't make use of its setting than I would be for other Treks.

 

The gay character thing in Trek is glaringly huge now and it would be difficult to suddenly feature it with no explanation. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they refer back to genetic wars where the dna trait was seriously interfered with illegally by Khan-type genetic superiority in order to get a Get Out Of Jail Free card. It's the only possible way out considering the vast numbers of human beings that have featured in all of the shows without a single gay character EVER (let's not speculate on alien species). Either the Federation is running a homophobic policy for 150 years (which undermines the whole philosophy) or else they have to face the issue head on with an excuse and have it a major part of the storyline ie historical guilt, remorse, understanding and an explanation why it has been so rare previously. Or they could just go the homophobic Federation route (learns the error of its ways).

 

I've seen people use that sort of excuse to factor in why it's such an American-dominated show and there are so few characters born in Asia (Sulu and Kim are Asian-American while on the other side of things, La Forge and Uhura are both African, leaving only Sato from Asia at all), to whit that Asia got completely screwed in WW3 and never recovered population-wise, and just imagine how that would go down if they ever made that canon. At this point I'd just be happy with a gay character and no fanfare.

Its been given a title as Star Trek: Discovery

 

http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/star-trek-d...7%20July%202016

 

female lead, the lead is not the Captain.

 

It's set between Enterprise and TOS, and one of the cast is a gay character.

 

 

So hoorays all round really!

What does everyone think about Sulu being rectonned as gay?

What does everyone think about Sulu being rectonned as gay?

 

I thought it worked quite well, sorta cute really. know George wasn't keen as his sulu was a swashbuckling ladies man, but hey ladies men often do a switch: "Sulu: funny he never married...." :lol:

It was good in the film how they integrated him being gay.

 

Back on the topic of the new TV show though I am nor liking the new ship one bit. I hope in the end it's similar to the typical trek ship.

It was good in the film how they integrated him being gay.

 

Back on the topic of the new TV show though I am nor liking the new ship one bit. I hope in the end it's similar to the typical trek ship.

The design looks very much like the old '70s designs for the aborted Star Trek 2 project.

 

A quick Google shows that others have picked up on this

 

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/07/25/comi...ralph-mcquarrie

The design is essentially just a CGI version of the hideous Phase II ship indeed. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me from a timeline point of view though, every other iteration (bar the Prometheus class saucer section) has been curved/rounded, even the NX-01 was. so essentially we now have, as canon, a weird period where they decided to make delta wing/angular ships, which was then quickly abandoned again?

 

And I wonder why people hate trekkie's and it's impossible to please us.

Michelle Yeo announced as a captain in the cast tho not necessarily of the main ship....

Apparently The Walking Dead's Sonequa Martin-Green has been announced for the lead role of Lieutenant Commander Rainford.