Posted September 24, 200618 yr a secret sect but basically harmless with silly rituals, or a sinister organisation that has people in high office making important decision,based on who knows who, and not what you know. If you know what I mean. George Washington was a mason, and so were 13 other Presidents, most recently Gerald Ford. In Europe at least, Freemasonry is a mystery of secret rites and occult power, the stuff of a million conspiracy theories.
September 25, 200618 yr Well, I think that when you have top judges, civil servants, police officers and MPs (ie PUBLIC SERVANTS...) who are giving their loyalty to a secret society which is based upon Sectarianism - which the Masonic lodges are, one cannot join a Masonic lodge if one is a Catholic, Jew or Muslim, or indeed a woman - then it really has to raise suspicions. And there have been some very high profile examples of Freemasons receiving leniency..
September 25, 200618 yr Well, I think that when you have top judges, civil servants, police officers and MPs (ie PUBLIC SERVANTS...) who are giving their loyalty to a secret society which is based upon Sectarianism - which the Masonic lodges are, one cannot join a Masonic lodge if one is a Catholic, Jew or Muslim, or indeed a woman - then it really has to raise suspicions. And there have been some very high profile examples of Freemasons receiving leniency.. That is not true, I have known loads of masons that are catholic, and I suppose it´s catholics who cannot be masons and not the other way round, they make no restrictions for religion. But they don´t accept women. When asked about that a mason told me they don´t accept woman because being a mason is seeking the perfection, and woman are already perfect so they don´t need it, but I find that a cheap excuse and perhaps he must think woman are too "dumb" to join the club, or maybe they think the institution won´t be serious enough if there are women among it. From what I know masons seem to be very influent, but they NEVER tell anyone what´s about... Well, maybe that´s the reason they don´t accept woman because they can´t hold a secret! I have always heard stuff about things that "happened" to men who decided to left masonry, and about the "rituals" they make and more conservative people have a very bad idea about them and usually link them to satanism and stuff. More lunatic people think they have conections with aliens. I think these are only legends, but it makes a good fun reading about. Anyway, if it was such a good think they woudln´t want to hide it from the public... Or maybe it´s just an organization that wants to cause curiosity about themselves but they just reunite to drink tea...
September 25, 200618 yr That is not true, I have known loads of masons that are catholic, Really?? I've always thought the Freemasons had links to the Orange Order. I used to live about 10 minutes away from an Orange Lodge and it had the symbol of the Freemasons on the door... :unsure: Whereabouts did you know Catholic Freemasons....?
September 25, 200618 yr Whereabouts did you know Catholic Freemasons....? Society in general. They use to adopt the majoritary religion in each country, so as I live in a mainly catholic country most, if not all, masons I know are catholic and practicing. I´m almost sure they must have some type of religious/mystic meaning tough, but I don´t know if that´s the main point on being mason.
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