Yeah, I'd like it if the White Walkers could be dealt with early next season, personally. I am not here for them trying to get their faces in during the main climax in the final episodes of the show.

 

I always thought the White Walkers were an exciting threat, but post season 4 they've kind of haulted in their development and really just aren't too interesting anymore. I do like following Bran though.

Perhaps Winter will actually finally arrive and kill all and sundry and the iron throne will be empty forever more.

 

That would certainly be BOLD, I'd quite like it though. If only because it would mean BSG might finally cede it's title of incredible show with least satisfying finale.

I'd disagree. Part of my love of the universe is this growing sense of impending doom that they present as a force of nature that will eventually make the (otherwise interesting) intrigue meaningless and that those like Littlefinger and Cersei who are desperate for power are severely blinkered in what's coming for them, that's a pretty large subtext especially in the war of the 5 kings and it should be even more so now. At Hardhome when they made themselves as a threat very clear is the show's best for me, by a long way, through the sheer adrenaline it presented. If I had one criticism of season 6 is that they or the threat of them wasn't present enough, they need to get beyond the Wall very soon to make this final confrontation even more desperate.

 

No, they shouldn't win, I don't think they have the capability to 'win', they don't have goals in the same way the others do, but what they should do is present enough of a threat to severely disrupt and cause loss to all of the human sides and give the last seasons a truly apocalyptic feel. And eventually it'll be them against Daenerys and the remnants of the other factions, ice against fire.

I'd disagree. Part of my love of the universe is this growing sense of impending doom that they present as a force of nature that will eventually make the (otherwise interesting) intrigue meaningless and that those like Littlefinger and Cersei who are desperate for power are severely blinkered in what's coming for them, that's a pretty large subtext especially in the war of the 5 kings and it should be even more so now. At Hardhome when they made themselves as a threat very clear is the show's best for me, by a long way, through the sheer adrenaline it presented. If I had one criticism of season 6 is that they or the threat of them wasn't present enough, they need to get beyond the Wall very soon to make this final confrontation even more desperate.

 

No, they shouldn't win, I don't think they have the capability to 'win', they don't have goals in the same way the others do, but what they should do is present enough of a threat to severely disrupt and cause loss to all of the human sides and give the last seasons a truly apocalyptic feel. And eventually it'll be them against Daenerys and the remnants of the other factions, ice against fire.

I largely agree with this. It would be a bit of a cop-out if they were dealt with way before the end and there weren't serious casualties on all sides. That said, I always feel like the show's human villains are more interesting and would rather than it ultimately came down to them following a devastating battle against the White Walkers.

Basically agree with Iz too. They're needed for the show's big bad. I like the climate change subtext too. Politicians being too busy bickering amongst themselves to the changing of the weather as the biggest threat to their way of life.

 

 

Additionally somebody pointed this out to me recently -

The three main characters to die at the red wedding

Greywind - crossbow

Robb Stark - stabbed to death

Catelyn - throat slit

 

The three main instigators of the red wedding -

Tyson - death by crossbow

Roose Bolton - stabbed to death

Walter Frey - throat slit

 

And the circle is complete

Edited July 2, 20169 yr by Severin

Additionally somebody pointed this out to me recently -

The three main characters to die at the red wedding

Greywind - crossbow

Robb Stark - stabbed to death

Catelyn - throat slit

 

The three main instigators of the red wedding -

Tyson - death by crossbow

Roose Bolton - stabbed to death

Walter Frey - throat slit

 

And the circle is complete

 

That is brilliant - I like the extra details I've seen added to it, all in their own homes or somewhere they believed themselves to be safe, punishing them for abusing guest right.

 

And, Frey learns his children are dead just before dying, as Catelyn did, and he gets fed them, which fits with the Rat Cook legend (another guy who broke guest right by cooking his king's son into a pie so got cursed by the gods and turned into a rat) that gets mentioned by Bran in season 3. Roose gets murdered by someone he believed an ally, like Robb. As did Tywin, although the version I've seen didn't mention Grey Wind.

 

The other thing that felt like a circle completing was Jaime & Cersei's last child falling to his death out of a window.

And we can probably add Jaime killing Aerys because he threatened to use wildfire, Cersei actually using it and a prophecy that predicts Cersei dies at the hands of the 'little brother'. Jaime being younger, of course

Edited July 2, 20169 yr by Severin

Apparently filming for Season 7 has been delayed because it's not cold enough in any of their filming locations. Some winter.