August 27, 20177 yr I don't know about the actual episode. All I can find is "With just over a day to go for the Game of Thrones season 7 finale, the HBO hackers have reportedly sent its detailed plot outline to publications like Mashable, The Independent and a reddit user, in addition to releasing it on the "deep web"."
August 27, 20177 yr Oh right - that's what people were going on about. I have known the entire plot before the first episode. I could havr told them that stuff if they wanted!
August 28, 20177 yr OH MY WORD. Outstanding!!!!!!! The Winterfell scenes were amazing - Sansa was definitely up there as an episode highlight, especially the way she turned it around onto Littlefinger when you were led to believe it was Arya facing trial. Incredible performance from Sophie Turner and I don't think I can remember stanning for a Stark EVER. I was worried for Jaime at one point though when he was chatting to Cersei, it was all too much :( I did think the ending was amazing but I felt the CGI was a bit jarring?
August 28, 20177 yr It confirms the S8 spoilers, with thr Golden Company moving in. Shan't be watching S8.
August 28, 20177 yr It confirms the S8 spoilers, with thr Golden Company moving in. Shan't be watching S8. There were also spoilers of Jorah supposedly dying, Littlefinger making an attack towards Sansa which is when Arya would kill him and many more. I think with the leak of scripts etc people are making up so called spoilers for the fun of it.
August 28, 20177 yr I think the emails that leaked detailing who GRR said can be on the throne, who can (has to?) die, and the scripts, following the leak, starting in Eastborne WITH THE CHARACTERS WHO WERE THERE IN THE END EPISODE :o , including Golden Company teaming up with Euron, are correct :( This is what happened in the episode too more or less. It confirms the spoilers to come. Edited August 28, 20177 yr by MoistSummerFruit
August 29, 20177 yr Not sure what I think of this season! It's obviously going to be one of (if not the) hardest task to start to wrap up such a gigantic story and to do it without the original source that the series was based on. It has been great to see all the characters finally coming together (particularly with Jon, Daenerys and Cersei all in one scene!!) however that has led to much less focus on each character's individual journeys/storylines which I think is the main reason why I feel a bit odd coming out of the season. It is certainly delivered the most epic season of TV I've ever seen though with so many glorious set pieces and moments. I do sort of side with the criticism though that the characters we were left with for this season are all the big 'safe' characters where there's no real risk of death until the final season where anything could happen. I do also get the teleportation/timing issues, more in the fact that the White Walkers have taken FOREVER to walk such a small distance when Jon Snow can go all around in one episode. Although, if they were waiting on a dragon, that might make a lot more sense. I would rather have this whole 'teleportation' thing though because there's limited time left and I just want them to get on with things! It has been a huge moment in TV and certainly sets the final season up to at least be the most visually spectacular thing ever seen on TV. There is a lot of burden on it though to end it satisfactorily and, however they do it, I'm sure it'll be disappointing! :lol: The ending of the last episode though was spectacular. You knew it would be coming but my jaw was still wide open as we realise the kingdom is truly no longer safe! (i did laugh at the Night King riding the dragon though!!)
August 29, 20177 yr Author Yes the Night King riding the dragon at the end looked proper dodgy CGI.. for some reason I would better like to know the White Walkers motives? My only criticism is while although we have known 'Winter is Coming' since the very first episode, so much has been made of the Battle for the Iron Throne, so a massive battle just seems totally out of place. That said, I totally understood Cersei's double-cross with Euron and it was an excellent twist. I guess my only criticism of the episode really was the scenes in Winterfell just looked a little out of place? It used to be fine with so many little stories, but this season we are focused on 2-3 areas maximum rather than 5-6 different storylines. Also Michael, as for those Season 8 leaks? I don't buy them. I have read them all and while I am not doubting some of it is true, it can just so easily have been made up with bits of information that we already know. Some of the leaks contradict where characters are at the end of the finale, and also what the characters themselves have even said..
August 29, 20177 yr Yes the Night King riding the dragon at the end looked proper dodgy CGI.. for some reason I would better like to know the White Walkers motives? My only criticism is while although we have known 'Winter is Coming' since the very first episode, so much has been made of the Battle for the Iron Throne, so a massive battle just seems totally out of place. That said, I totally understood Cersei's double-cross with Euron and it was an excellent twist. I guess my only criticism of the episode really was the scenes in Winterfell just looked a little out of place? It used to be fine with so many little stories, but this season we are focused on 2-3 areas maximum rather than 5-6 different storylines. Also Michael, as for those Season 8 leaks? I don't buy them. I have read them all and while I am not doubting some of it is true, it can just so easily have been made up with bits of information that we already know. Some of the leaks contradict where characters are at the end of the finale, and also what the characters themselves have even said.. Even when you couldn't see the NK and Viserion was flying, it looked like a puppet on invisible strings. The finale was amazing but that is a massive downer on it unfortunately. I'm with you on the supposed leaks. The only one I buy and really don't want to is Daenerys supposedly getting pregnant with Jon's child and dying while giving birth on Dragonstone only because it seems a plausible circle ending for both her and Jon, herself being born there and Jon's own mother dying in childbirth. However having said that I am sure there was a so called leak which claimed Cersei was going to blow up the army of the dead with the remaining wildfire and rule from Casterly Rock which never happened so... :thinking:
August 29, 20177 yr Author Even when you couldn't see the NK and Viserion was flying, it looked like a puppet on invisible strings. The finale was amazing but that is a massive downer on it unfortunately. I'm with you on the supposed leaks. The only one I buy and really don't want to is Daenerys supposedly getting pregnant with Jon's child and dying while giving birth on Dragonstone only because it seems a plausible circle ending for both her and Jon, herself being born there and Jon's own mother dying in childbirth. However having said that I am sure there was a so called leak which claimed Cersei was going to blow up the army of the dead with the remaining wildfire and rule from Casterly Rock which never happened so... :thinking: That to me is just lazy writing if Dany dies during childbirth. Also Jon is meant to die by being burned alive.. I thought Targarean's couldn't die from fire?? And a dead Bran is meant to be resurrected as a White Walker after the Night King has been defeated.. yet it was pretty much stated kill the Night King and kill all the Wights/ White Walkers. Also Theon is meant to be in Winterfell, yet he's sailed off to the Iron Islands. For me it was far too many re-hashes of well-known theories. While I completely expect both Dany and Jon to die I am not sure it will happen in that way.
August 29, 20177 yr I think Cersei is going to die during childbirth. Doesn't the prophecy say she has three children so another still born that actually ends her will be the ultimate price to pay for her character and one of the most cut-throat mothers ever.
August 30, 20177 yr That to me is just lazy writing if Dany dies during childbirth. Also Jon is meant to die by being burned alive.. I thought Targarean's couldn't die from fire?? And a dead Bran is meant to be resurrected as a White Walker after the Night King has been defeated.. yet it was pretty much stated kill the Night King and kill all the Wights/ White Walkers. Also Theon is meant to be in Winterfell, yet he's sailed off to the Iron Islands. For me it was far too many re-hashes of well-known theories. While I completely expect both Dany and Jon to die I am not sure it will happen in that way. What makes you think both of them will die? :o that would be brutal but then again, this is George R R Martin we are talking about! :lol: I think Cersei is going to die during childbirth. Doesn't the prophecy say she has three children so another still born that actually ends her will be the ultimate price to pay for her character and one of the most cut-throat mothers ever. There is a prophecy that her brother would kill her which is why shes always assumed Tyrion and hated Tyrion. If the child is Jaime's that would be an interesting twist to have her die in childbirth with his child.
August 30, 20177 yr The episode was a bit predictable. I would have not shown the Night King bringing Vissy back to life at the end of the last episode, it would have made the ending at least somewhat more shocking.
August 30, 20177 yr There is a prophecy that her brother would kill her which is why shes always assumed Tyrion and hated Tyrion. If the child is Jaime's that would be an interesting twist to have her die in childbirth with his child. It would be fitting, ironic, and amazing for Jaime to kill Cersei. The 'Kingslayer' becoming a 'Queenslayer'. Or even for her to be correct in assuming that Tyrion would kill her, and him becoming the Queenslayer with his brother the Kingslayer. The prophecy allows for both :) Either way, if Cersei doesn't die at the hands of one of her brothers (or both :o) then there's a huge missed opportunity. Cersei's child being born a dwarf would also be an incredible plot twist and a big "f*ck you" to Cersei herself too. She'd then assumingly kill the baby (:cry:) as it's a dwarf and thus Tyrion would turn against her again (I believe he's made a sneaky deal with Cersei for her heir to take the throne after both wars are over) and plot her murder with Jaime. Edited August 30, 20177 yr by Dexton
August 30, 20177 yr I think brother Jamie will kill Cersei but then we'll find out it's Arya as Jamie.
August 30, 20177 yr It would be fitting, ironic, and amazing for Jaime to kill Cersei. The 'Kingslayer' becoming a 'Queenslayer'. Or even for her to be correct in assuming that Tyrion would kill her, and him becoming the Queenslayer with his brother the Kingslayer. The prophecy allows for both :) Either way, if Cersei doesn't die at the hands of one of her brothers (or both :o) then there's a huge missed opportunity. Cersei's child being born a dwarf would also be an incredible plot twist and a big "f*ck you" to Cersei herself too. She'd then assumingly kill the baby (:cry:) as it's a dwarf and thus Tyrion would turn against her again (I believe he's made a sneaky deal with Cersei for her heir to take the throne after both wars are over) and plot her murder with Jaime. That would be such a good twist given how much she despises Tyrion! Now Jaime appears to be siding with Jon and Daenerys I wouldn't be surprised if he did end up taking her out alongside Tyrion.
August 30, 20177 yr Cersei's prophecy says that '...when your tears have drowned you, the valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you' To me that doesn't sound at all like dying in childbirth, however I can imagine the child being deformed/stillborn or a dwarf would be enough for her to kill it and drown in her own tears. And enough cause for Jaime to do the deed. I do like the Arya twist on it but I don't see it being as rewarding a conclusion for Cersei. On a side note - I wonder if Bran has bothered to check and see who crippled him
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