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Thats true PIP. Have read in the past that record labels keep hold of the songs but dont know if this is true. Maybe D had a different set up.
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I'd heard Ainslie Henderson kept his whole album which Mercury didn't release. I'm not clear whether that was the actual master recordings or just the rights to the songs themselves.

 

 

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According to todays sun Simon fuller himself of 19 management are to take on the relaunching of michael jacksons career. He must be a very busy boy what with american idol, posh and becks and now this which he says he sees as a real challenge that he will relish. Hope this doesnt mean that D will be put on the back burner as it were.
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Agree meg and PIP. There is something odd when I read infrequently that rachel stevens is pictured coming out of a shop in l.a. yesterday and shown in various placed in l.a. (she is with 19) yet we never see pictures of D coming out of anywhere or in the street, you could be forgiven if you were the gen.public for not even knowing he was there. The gen.public for instance dont see wire image etc. and the tabloids never pilck up his and natashas pictures from there to publish yet Other B celebs who visit L.a. are mentioned in the press all the time yet Natasha who is stunning and has a show on tv here is ignored together with D.i.e. the global warming bit from the DR was mentioned in the tabloids but D was left out again. What makes it suspicious to me is that OK and Hello DO publish pictures from the photo sites.
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Well they arent giving up on emma bunton according to the release chart, her album is to be re-released during this summer. Some people get all the attention and some get none.!!!

strange, someone likes Emma, or is using up her spice girl fortune for her

her single got to no.60 so I beleive, I can't understand why they would re release the album unless they have a new single or some heavy pr coming up first.

Simon Fuller adores Emma. He always has but I still think his eye is on a re-formed Spice Girls, if only for one really big gig followed by a new album. It's now said Melanie C is the only block to that happening. I reckon Simon now has Live Earth in his sights but personally I think 4 won't do - he needs all 5.

 

Apparently SF himself has said that the Spice Girls will reform within eighteen months but it will only be for one tour. They will not record a studio album.

 

Perhaps so, but I bet there's a live album and/with DVD from the tour and a neatly packaged Complete Spice Girls album too.

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OT but relevant I dare say for when Darius finishes his 3rd album. What are the chart rules now?

 

Do singles still have to have a physical release to be eligible? I'm just wondering because lately there's been a spate of singles that have been on the release schedules being slated only for download release, among them Ben Mills debut, I believe.

 

Frankly I still haven't got into downloading. I haven't even got an mp3 player. I think it's because I've lost quite a few audio and video tracks when I've had trouble with PCs dying on me and I just don't have any faith in the permanency of downloads at all. I figure it's brilliant for those who like to have all the newest stuff and then just replace it when they get bored with it. That's never been me. I know what I like and I've never given a hoot if others, including my friends, shared my taste or not.

 

Suppose you have all your favourite tracks of all time, thousands of them, that you've lovingly traced and downloaded on to an i-pod or some such and that piece of equipment misfunctions, are all those tracks lost and you have to go back to square one?

 

If physicals are definitely on their way out, I guess I'll reluctantly have to get in some download practice before the big moment.

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No, there doesn't need to be a physical release anymore Baytree.

 

Yes, technically if you only stored 1 copy of your music on one devise and it breaks down you could lose the lot I suppose - but like with everything else that you'd be bothered about losing, you can make a back-up copy to another storeage devise, or to CDs/DVDs etc... Sometimes the artwork is also available to download, so you can create your own physical version of the CD as it would be as a physical if you want to do. You don't have to have an MP3 player either - they're mainly used for ease of portability I think.

 

I don't think physicals are on their way out just yet (especially not albums) - but even when there are new physical releases of singles planned, the download versions still come out first and are important in their own right now in terms of sales, charts and vibe rating.

 

Technically now, any music, new or old, has the potential to do well in the chart - so long as a track is available for download, then it's chart eligible - that applies to all existing music as well now, not just new or future releases.

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I fear that if there no longer has to be a physical release, the single will disappear very quickly.

 

As a fan of Darius, I'd hate that because there'd be no need for b-sides and D's are always so strong. It's like having a double album. In fact, I'd say I play the b-sides just as much as I play the album tracks.

I'm with you there BT. In fact, for 'Live Twice', I probably liked the 'b' sides more, they were really good. My current fave is a 'b' side

Of the Live Twice ones I've absolutely adored and metaphorically played bald

 

Now Or Never

Mystery Of You

Big Feather Bed

Faith In Me

Butterfly Spirit

She's Coming Home

 

If you asked me to rank them, I'd give you a different list each time.

 

I'd also add Secret Song which was technically a b-side but finally crept on to the album as an addendum to Devil In You , when Darius swopped it at the last moment with Sexy Individual. I wish it had been a normal hidden track and not shackled to the only track on the album which seems completely out of place. I absolutely love Secret Song.

So do I BT. I do love 'She's coming Home' as well. If he wont play or release 'Right Girl, Wrong Time' because it's too personal, there's not a chance we'll hear 'She's Coming Home' as anything but the 'b' side to a dvd. I loved RGWT as well.

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Briiliant 19 have the copyright to all D's stuff. Does anyone know if Brilliant 19 is still going?

They have the copyright to those particular sound recordings but I'm not so sure they have the legal copyright to the songs themselves.

 

 

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Brilliant 19 website was still showing amy winehouse under their management, it hasnt been updated for ages and ages. I hope D has it all sorted re his recordings. I see this yesterday re Seal who D quotes as one of his influences on his myspace site.

 

Seal has lost his appeal against the decision to pay his former manager commission.

 

The singer was instructed by the London High Court last summer to hand over royalties to John Wadlow from his 1991 album Seal and its 1994 follow-up Seal II. However, he challenged the ruling, claiming he had already given Wadlow around £4million when they ceased their business arrangement in 1994.

 

Now the musician could be looking at a further payment of up to £1million, in accordance with an agreement the two signed earlier in his career. He must also pay the legal costs of his former colleagu

 

 

 

 

 

 

Darius has always been and still is contracted to 19 Recordings/ Brilliant19 or whatever name it wishes to give itself. Until that contract expires, he will have to keep to whatever he signed up to.

 

However, given that he had been through 2 other contract negotiations one of which he refused to sign at the last moment and another, of which he refused to sign certain clauses and subsequently negotiated a release from, I don't think he would have settled for a bog standard contract by any means.

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