April 1, 200619 yr Actually it was Darius who decided not to continue his association with Mercury last year, it wasn't their decision to part company with him. It was a very wise decision on his part I think, considering their past track record of poor promotion. I'm sure it's the right decision for Gareth too and I look forward to hearing some new material from him soon :) If you say so. Sadly it's a cut throat business & a label will only support & promote an artist if they are convinced they will get a good return on their investment. Edited April 1, 200619 yr by gillwill
April 1, 200619 yr If you say so. Sadly it's a cut throat business & a label will only support & promote an artist if they are convinced they will get a good return on their investment. You're right Gill, its whats called `milking what they can out of an artist'. Fortunately there comes a point when some artists refuse to be `milked' any longer. Hopefully that's the case with Gareth. And if it is, well done him :cheer: I'm really looking forward to seeing and hearing what he comes up with.
April 1, 200619 yr Author Actually it was Darius who decided not to continue his association with Mercury last year, Sorry - was that an April fools comment -I'm getting confused today :P So...........which record company did Darius choose then, when they were all desperate to sign him after he 'decided not to continue' with Mercury. Sheesh :rolleyes: FM
April 1, 200619 yr Hmm, isn't it more sensible to write the album and then negotiate the deal to distribute it? Darius knows plenty about contracts. When the time comes, he'll get down to negotiation. fatmuffin, how could any record company sign a singer/songwriter who is still contracted to someone else? Edited April 1, 200619 yr by Baytree
April 1, 200619 yr Again Gareth is writing his own album, isn't he? Yes he is. I think its almost completed now, if its not already. Desperate to hear what he's got on there. Even if its only as good as the stuff he wrote for the Night CD on his last album its going to be brilliant. But I'm sure its going to be even better than that was.
April 1, 200619 yr I'm certainly no fan of Gareth Gates, but I do agree with your assessement of Sony/BMG, they are a huge, monstrous conglomerate that has no interest in creativity at all. The fact that they've dropped Gates is quite astonishing really, because it seems that he's the sort of 'product' that they're interested in. When Sony/BMG bought out the Music For Nations label (which was mainly Hard Rock and Metal), they embarked on a cull of bands who were perceived to be "under-performing". So, it appears that no one is safe if they are willing to dump someone like Gates.... They are a business get over it. the same happens in TV, retail, radio ect ect. If something is underperforming the show is cancelled, the store is closed the DJ is ejected the same with major record companies, they are there to increase profits, keep shareholders happy etc etc.
April 1, 200619 yr I think there is a helluva lot more to the news that Gareth has parted company with BMG than meets the eye. Gareth has talent and it is small minded to say otherwise, whether you like his music or him is another matter but he is talented and a multi talented musician. This news seems to have delighted Gareth's fans, it is exactly what is needed. SC has been totally unsupportive of Gareth since SF backed Gareth's wish to release Sunshine (which incidently even non Gareth fans enjoyed). I always believed that Gareth was jointly managed between SC and SF and if that were true the wranglings between the two Simon's may have been one of the reasons for delay - the out of court settlement between SF and SC a couple of months ago may have kick started negotiations between the two re: Gareth, so SC may have decided finally to allow Gareth to Go His Own Way!! Which is what he wanted all along. Who knows, many care - many don't - It is the fans I feel sorry for the most, hanging around waiting patiently for news since God only knows when - treated with total disrespect by everyone. Judging by some of the snippets I have picked up around the net re: Gareth, he has worked with some pretty influential and talented writers and producers whilst he has been away from the music frontline, not fogetting he has had two birthdays and is no longer a 17 year old lad but a mature man of not far short of 22. He deserves a shot at releasing his own stuff, his fans deserve to hear it after all this time - the rest is in the hands of the general public, if they like what they hear and buy into the music all will be well, if they don't at least he gave it a shot.
April 1, 200619 yr With the 3rd album completed (or nearly completed), maybe out of loyalty Gareth and his management gave BMG/Sony the first chance to license it, were not satisfied for some reason, turned their offer down and now both parties are able to say definitely that Gareth is no longer with BMG/Sony. The Night CD was very good and the seven tracks which Gareth co-wrote were the strongest on it. There were at least 5 good singles and one track on the Day CD stood out too - Foolish.
April 2, 200619 yr Hmm, isn't it more sensible to write the album and then negotiate the deal to distribute it? Darius knows plenty about contracts. When the time comes, he'll get down to negotiation. fatmuffin, how could any record company sign a singer/songwriter who is still contracted to someone else? Well actually, no it isn't. Darius would be looking for a label to finance the writing & recording of an album up front. Had he been an unknown, then he would have gone to the labels with demos etc. but he wasn't. Established artists do change labels of course and depending on how successful they've been ,determines the value of their contract. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Darius is financing his own album, but that's a massive risk. Producers, co-writers, musicians and studio time costs hundreds of thousands of pounds and with no guarantee of an eventual release, it could cost him plenty. Mark Owen does it, Mel C & Mick Hucknall, to name a few, but they've earned miliions in their time and can afford it. I don't think Darius is in quite the same league yet. The same can be said for Gareth. Has he financed his own album? Perhaps he's had financial help from Simon Fuller, but with the news that he & SONY/BMG have parted company before a 3rd album release, it seems that they've not been involved with him for quite some time, certainly they couldn't have made any investment in his new album, otherwise thay'd be looking to recoup something back.
April 2, 200619 yr You are very knowledgeable, Marguerite. And very lucid! I can never explain myself as well.
April 2, 200619 yr I apologise, with so many April Fools jokes going around I thought this was another, I apologise :lol: Topic Opened You are reminded to keep the topic clean, no arguing please, or I will be forced to close it again, anyone with any queries, just PM me
April 2, 200619 yr Sadly for Gareth and his remaining fans, I think he has now 'missed the boat' in terms of a successful comeback, whether it be with Sony/BMG or another record company. Simon Cowell's found a new 'cash cow' in Shayne, so he's not interested in promoting Gareth any more, and a lot of his previous supporters have moved on to other artists and groups. He's going to have to come up with an absolute belter of a song to have a cat in hell's chance of making it big again ...... :(
April 2, 200619 yr Well we shall just have to wait and see. BTW Gareth and Simon Cowell parted company long ago - well before Shayne became his 'cash cow' - though I would bet that his main 'cash cows' will remain Il Divo for some time to come. :puke2:
April 2, 200619 yr SC and Gareth parted company around the time Gareth released Sunshine. The arguing between SC and SF regarding the album and the direction in which Gareth took his music reflected this. Gareth and SF wanted to go down the road of the more upbeat, younger, funky blend of music, whilst SC wanted the ballads. Gareth's last single which incidently went in at No 4 in the SH singles chart was SC choice - a sugary ballad which Gareth looked bored to death singing. A fourth single was on the cards but was never released and the rest is now history. My guess is Gareth will release further music - who will back it yet is anyone's guess but I wish him well. I said in my last post it is his fans I feel for. I just hope they are treated by his Management with the respect they deserve for the support they have shown. What I don't understand is why this news has been released - Gareth's track record is far far superior than many artists in the charts now or in the past - there really is more to this than what appears on the surface. Afterall EVERY artist is only as good as their last single/album.
April 2, 200619 yr What I don't understand is why this news has been released - Gareth's track record is far far superior than many artists in the charts now or in the past - there really is more to this than what appears on the surface. Afterall EVERY artist is only as good as their last single/album. I don't think the news was or has been officially released. It leaked from a conversation with BMG as I understand it. I think that Gareth's management will be somewhat hacked off that it happened that way as I am sure that they would have preferred to make a 'Gareth has signed a new deal with......' type of statement. However there have been no denials - and the 19 statement on his web site says 'We understand that fans have been concerned this week regarding Gareth's return. 19 entertainment continue to support and be committed to Gareth who is very happy with the work he has produced over the past year and we are sure that you'll enjoy it too.Thankyou for your patience and continued support'. I think that's pretty much confirmation.
April 2, 200619 yr I doubt Shayne ward will last long. He is looking and singing very boring. And yet Westlife are still going :puke2:
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