Robbie had the Oasis vibe in his head at that time but he certainly didnt manage it.

 

Old Before I Die, Let Me Entertain You and Angels were the only songs i enjoyed from that era. If he launched his career with Angels he would have hit it off straight away. That said, it all worked out in the end for him with thanks to Angels.

 

Lie To Me, should have been the lead for 12 Months 11 Days, i still believe that song would have had success back then, despite Garys situation at that time.

How anyone decided stronger was a better launch single than lie to me il never understand.

Agreed - stronger is one of the weakest on the record

It would be a strong album track but not the track that was needed to launch the campaign.

The whole era really couldn't have been handled any worse.

Correct, the album could easily have had the name full on disaster. Everything went wrong so quick, it was shocking.

The drug story didn't help as it came across as desperate I felt.

For Gary, when he crosses paths with some of the people who were part of the destroying his career at that time it would be interesting to know how he interacts with them.

 

That said, he must be a forgiving man as he put the past in the past with Robbie who was a massive part of the humiliation at the time.

Ya im sure there are still some people he would ignore.

 

He def seems a more more forgiving person as i knew with the robbie stuff and it had happened to me personally, i would never have made it up with him.

I never thought Gary and Robbie in particular would ever become friends again as their fallout was so public.

Mark and Robbie to my knowledge remained in touch and friendly but Howard and Jason had also falling out with Robbie. From the documentary it did appear Jason had more issues with Robbie returning than anyone.

Ya I never thought it would happen but it did although I wonder is there still slot of contact between them now.

They did seem to have genuinely made up. I would also believe Robbie will be big part of Take That's 30th anniversary when it comes round.

Ya it's more than likely,I think they might do 1 off single for it.

I would believe new tracks will be added to the inevitable Greatest Hits release and Robbie will most likely be heavily involved and possibly on the Greatest Hits tour aswell.

It’s comign around quickly! We might get a new single in September (if they don’t do the on air/on sale strategy)

There is no word on anything new coming though is there?

I have heard no whispers yet. I even question will the new Greatest Hits even get a release later this year.

If it we prob won't get it until November.

Does anyone here have any idea how we can find out how many copies 12M11D has sold so far? I can imagine it's not more than 5k, but I'd like to have a confirmed number. I've always been curious about how much of a "disaster" that release really was.