If Labour had a different leader they'd have a great chance at the next election. If Corbyn really cared about his party getting in to power he'd resign.

 

Biggest vote share and biggest vote increase since Attlee? Won seats that had never voted anything but Tory, aka rotten boroughs? Soo yeaaah.

I don´t know they they would get a majority under someone else(not for a few years anyway) but I think with the right person they would gain a lot of seats and have a VERY good chance at a coalition government.

 

We actually agree on something!

 

 

Wow we do. *Faints*

Biggest vote share and biggest vote increase since Attlee? Won seats that had never voted anything but Tory, aka rotten boroughs? Soo yeaaah.

 

 

So if they did that and Corbyn's unpopular with a lot of voters, not all I admit, what would happen with a younger more dynamic leader?

So if they did that and Corbyn's unpopular with a lot of voters, not all I admit, what would happen with a younger more dynamic leader?

 

Corbyn is the dynamic leader with politics of hope.

 

This is more than a leader. This is about real systematic change. That won't be getting put back in the bottle. We will neeever accept going from Corbyn to a suit and tie neoliberal ever again. Why do you think Murdoch's Sun etc attack him so much?! They're TERRIFIED.

 

 

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I appreciate Corbyns dedication to his stance and again, I personally WILL vote for him, but the only way I see a Labour government again is with someone different, leading them closer to the center ground. I just don´t see it happening with Corbyn unfortunately. There are a lot of people that are extremely angry and pissed off with the Tories(quite RIGHTLY too).

 

Boris and co are stitching us up ROTTEN, but unfortunately too many people are too blind or gullible to see this(that or they are well off financially and therefore don´t care) and therefore this country(England more so than anywhere else) is choc full of voters who will NEVER vote for Corbyn.

 

I´m not saying that I agree with it, I wish it wasn´t like that but that´s the reality.

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That's what they said about Thatcher x

 

If our one party state media hadn't attacked and attacked, a terrified oligarchy, he would already be pm.

The media definitely has a lot to answer for.

 

The way they have thrown their toys out of the pram this week is embarrassing.

AMBER RUDD RESIGNING FROM CABINET AND THE TORY WHIP

Big move considering the majority of her seat!

AMBER RUDD RESIGNING FROM CABINET AND THE TORY WHIP

 

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Well why not? She knows she's gone in the next election anyway. Saves face. The rest of the spineless toffs should do the same!

She is standing as an independent in the next election.

Lmaooo no chance of winning, but being in a marginal she has doomed the Tories in another seat!!

Something something *this is why we need proportional representation right now* something something.

Thank goodness we haven't had to endure four years of chaos with Ed Miliband.

And now Angela Smith has joined the Lib Dems. I'm starting to think that Change UK should have just done that in the first place.

Amber Rudd's resignation letter is quite powerful, she makes it clear that no real effort is being made to obtain a deal.

If the media backed off painting Corbyn as the devil we would see people's opinions being very different.

 

I even think tbh if he became PM the papers would change their tune, at least some of them. Would the BBC have to?? Then we would see how the bias went on the other foot.

 

Those that say if he resigned and a new leader came all would be different, are you forgetting Miliband? Brown? Both painted too as much worse than they were.

 

On that note. Pretty hilarious the antisemitism in Labour furore when you remember who the leader before Corbyn was. Ed Miliband, whose mother was a Jew - who is at least half Jewish. And who the other candidate, the second candidate voted by Labour members to be leader was - the second most popular ultimately - his brother, of exactly the same heritage. Someone's been telling porkies or trying to help us all forget that.

Amber Rudd's resignation letter is quite powerful, she makes it clear that no real effort is being made to obtain a deal.

 

Whereas massive effort is being expended to circumvent the referendum result...

You mean the result of the glorified opinion poll that was only very narrowly won by breaking the law?

 

And how is preventing a catastrophic no deal circumventing the result when everyone connected with any form of leave campaign said that we would leave with a deal and we’d stay in the single market and the customs union :thinking:

 

Pretty hard to circumvent a set of moving goalposts.