Or he hasn't trolled a lot this week and so needs to make up for it?

I have a question. Does a British PM have to obey a Scottish court or can he get round it by saying no action's been taken in an English court? Just a sudden thought that's struck me. Maybe too much cider today. :o

I mean if a Scotsman took out an injunction against me, an Englishman, does it still apply in law?

The courts have equal weight. A decision taken in any of the three court systems of the UK is binding across the whole of the UK

The courts have equal weight. A decision taken in any of the three court systems of the UK is binding across the whole of the UK

 

Not in all cases, surely?

 

To take a hypothetical example - what if the Scottish Parliament passed a law confiscating the assets of all English people living in Scotland?

Or he hasn't trolled a lot this week

 

 

You've made up for me maybe though? :D

From Sky News:

 

"The UK is not prepared to postpone Brexit beyond the current 31 October deadline, Boris Johnson is to tell European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker at talks on Monday.

 

The lunchtime meeting in Luxembourg will be the first time the pair have met since the PM took office in July.

 

A Downing Street source says Mr Johnson will stress over lunch that he wants to secure a deal by 18 October, after a key EU summit.

 

But if not possible he will "reject any delay offered" and leave with no deal."

 

 

You tell them Boris. Get tough and maybe we'll get a better deal. He's certainly tougher than May. Hate to say this but it needed a man to make them listen. :)

 

That tells me he's not going to ask for any extension.

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So ignoring the obvious bait, what does the EU have to lose by not offering us anything? Johnson is a fool and a terrible negotiator.

So ignoring the obvious bait, what does the EU have to lose by not offering us anything? Johnson is a fool and a terrible negotiator.

 

 

Well they don't want no deal either.

Talk on TV now that there are rumours that Boris intends to get round the new law by asking for an extension, then refusing it so we crash out. :o Daft I know but he would have complied with the law then. Say send the letter as he's required to do, then another refusing the extension if and when it's granted. He's determined to leave then by hook or by crook. That's why he may prorogue parliament again to stop them amending the law saying he has to accept the extension or stop MP's sending the letter.

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Yes, having a head of government who flouts loopholes in the law is certainly where I want this country to be.

 

The EU don't want us to leave without a deal but they have more to lose by giving into our unreasonable demands than seeing the UK crash out and having to come begging later. Johnson is saying 'give us what we want or we'll put ourselves into a much weaker position for future negotiations'.

Well if the law wasn't such an ass he wouldn't have to seek loopholes and flount it. MP's are just trying to deny the will of the people. At least Boris wants to implement the result of the referendum with no further delays which is the right thing to do. Watch this country erupt if we don't leave then. No-one will go to work and everyone will be on the streets.

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Not in all cases, surely?

 

To take a hypothetical example - what if the Scottish Parliament passed a law confiscating the assets of all English people living in Scotland?

That’s not a hypothetical example. I don’t know what the f*** that is.

 

 

You misunderstand something quite fundamental. The Scottish courts have two areas of power. One is over the domestic application of Scots Law - so any criminals tried in Scotland under the Scottish criminal justice system and all civil cases brought under Scots Law within Scotland. They’ll uphold and challenge where appropriate the law as created by Holyrood.

 

The Act of Union never abolished the individual court systems of the Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England and so Scottish Courts rulings over matters that are not devolved and take effect UK wide are within the bounds of the court. This is the second area of its power. It will apply a Scots Law view over UK wide legislation.

 

It should be noted that the court in Scotland wasn’t on summer holidays when the case was filed (it was in England) and they could start the case at a higher level of court than what would be possible in England. The top level of court for English Common Law and Scots Law is the Supreme Court in London. Regardless of where this was filed it would have ended up in the Supreme Court for the uk as a whole.

HOW MANY f***ING TIMES?!

 

THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IS WHAT THE NAXIS USEF TO SAY. IT DOES NOT f***ING EXIST, ESPWCIALLY NOT ON A 50 50 SPLIT REFERENDUM. YOU GOT 17 OUT OF 65 MILLION. A. MINORITY!!!!!!

 

There has been an ELECTION since then, which is WHERE THR PARLIAMENTARY NUMBERS FING COME FROM. If people cared so much for brexshit, you'd have 600 ukip or tory mps!!! Jesus CHRIST.

 

Alsoooo leave f***ing campaigned foorrrrr A SINGLE MARKET NORWAY MODEL. The EU would agree to that. They did NOT CAMPAIGN FOR A HARD OR NO DEAL BREXSHIT.

 

THEREFOREEEEEE ... YOU. HAVE. NO. MANDATE. DO. YOU. UNDERSTAND?!

 

Also a lot of brexshitters were old. By demographica alone you no longer even have a slight majority :( Alsooo the fiest referendum was 70% remain. Bring similar numbers to overturn it, ywa? You need major numbers for major change. You didn't even get three nations or Gibraltar. You didn't get youth support. You don't have enough.

 

Dictator BoJo needs to GO.

Well if the law wasn't such an ass he wouldn't have to seek loopholes and flount it. MP's are just trying to deny the will of the people. At least Boris wants to implement the result of the referendum with no further delays which is the right thing to do. Watch this country erupt if we don't leave then. No-one will go to work and everyone will be on the streets.

 

Mwaaa poor dictator Bojo bound by the horrible horrible law :( He should be able to do what he wants!! The law doesn't apply to Etonian Bullington tosspots born to rule exceptions like HIM!

Mwaaa poor dictator Bojo bound by the horrible horrible law :( He should be able to do what he wants!! The law doesn't apply to Etonian Bullington tosspots born to rule exceptions like HIM!

 

 

I know I'm talking to a broken record but what our PM wants to do this time is the right thing. To implement the result of the referendum. What's the point of holding one then, millions spent for nothing? The courts shouldn't be interfering in politics either, just as The Queen doesn't.

1. THERE HAS BEEN AN ELECTION SINCE THEN.

 

2. THR PARLIAMENTARY ARITHMETIC IS LIKE THID BECAUSE OF SAID ELECTION. EVERY VOTE. EVERY SEAT.

 

3. IT WAS A NON BINDING REFERENDUM WITH 50% SUPPORT OR 27% OF THE POPULATION.

 

4. LEAVE VOTED FOR A NORWAY MODEL. THIS IS NOT THAT.

 

5. ASK THE PEOPLE AGAIN. IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS AND THE FIRST RESULT WASN'T CONCLUSIVE AT ALL!!!

 

6. Even if true, which it's NOT, you said "this time". Boom. Destroying the constitution with these types of lrecedencts destroys democracy. The end.

 

 

I know I'm talking to a broken record but what our PM wants to do this time is the right thing. To implement the result of the referendum. What's the point of holding one then, millions spent for nothing? The courts shouldn't be interfering in politics either, just as The Queen doesn't.

 

Then maybe politicians should obey the law!!!

 

Hitler and the Nazis also thought the courts shouldn't interfere :rofl: How does it feel to agree with them on that???

 

This REEEALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED, but if you really are THAT thick, well okay, gammon:

 

1. In democracries rule of law is paramount.

 

2. In any democracy, the law will need to be obeyed by everyone, including rulers.

 

3. The courts will have to oversee the system to make sure everyone is following the rules/ rule of law.

 

4. This includes oh yes the government and leaders.

 

5. If the government wasn't included, it could do what the f*** it wamted. Dictatorship. It coulf strip your benefits just because. There would be no court to appeal to as supreme glorious leader and pals would be above it.

Then maybe politicians should obey the law!!!

 

Hitler and the Nazis also thought the courts shouldn't interfere :rofl: How does it feel to agree with them on that???

 

 

Hitler and the Nazis have nothing to do with this yet you seem a little obsessed with them.

Now they're saying the restaurant industry's going under because of Brexit. Everything's being blamed on Brexit when there must be other factors too and we haven't even left yet! :wacko:

 

More than 1,400 UK restaurants collapsed in the year since June 2018 due to increased costs due to collapsed pound and decreased footfall due to lack of consumer confidence. Both of which are a direct result of brexit.

 

If they didn't charge so much for miniscule portions they'd get more people in so wouldn't be closing. :rolleyes:

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Well if the law wasn't such an ass he wouldn't have to seek loopholes and flount it. MP's are just trying to deny the will of the people. At least Boris wants to implement the result of the referendum with no further delays which is the right thing to do. Watch this country erupt if we don't leave then. No-one will go to work and everyone will be on the streets.

No, MPs are doing their job. They are holding the government to account and voting for what they believe to be in the best interests of the country. Why can't you accept that "the will of the people" simply isn't an argument for doing anything?

 

As for your second point, rather a large proportion of Leave voters are retired so not going to work will just mean carrying on as normal.

Hitler and the Nazis have nothing to do with this yet you seem a little obsessed with them.

 

And yet the parallels are right there.

 

You scream about werlll of perperrl, on a minority vote, 27% of population, and defend shutting down parliament over it. You think the courts shouldn't have power over your chosen leader. The leave campaign used Nazi propaganda too btw.

 

What's that? Parallels.

 

So how does it feel to agree with them r.e courts and politics?