Why do you bring those into everything? It doesn’t absolve you of anything else.

 

It clears me of blanket charges of ignorance, at the very least.

 

I don't need to be absolved of daring to hold different opinions to the majority of this forum.

And yet they're not conspiracy theories seeing as bandwagon effect is a real thing and polls have been shockingly shite and are a tool for public opinion? Not spelling mistakes, typos x

 

Want to comment on why you said you prefer Bojo, won't comment on his scandals, and come out wih those OUTRAGEOUS anti Corbyn comments, yet claim you fon't love the Tories? Lol. You didn't dare admit it when I was posting as you knew this would happen.

Can't imagine why this is being brought up now... :rolleyes:

Have you read the article? Did you notice that we only know about the referral because of journalists asking questions? It happened last month but there was no formal announcement. I wonder whose interests were best served by covering it up?

It clears me of blanket charges of ignorance, at the very least.

 

I don't need to be absolved of daring to hold different opinions to the majority of this forum.

 

Extremely ignorant opinions. You claim to be impartial and you just admitted what we knew all along, as again it is shockingly transparent, that you're not and that you are pro Tory anti Labour. It was OBVIOUS. You hold thrm to veeeery different standards just like common senseless :lol:

Yet people here say 'Brexit will be a disaster' without justifying that statement...

 

It haa been justified many times. God sake. The ignorance.

Vidcapper's pretense that we haven't done any of this:

 

We've mentioned umpteen economic forecasts. We'd include the government's own assessment if they deigned to publish it. We've said that we will be in a much weaker position than the EU when negotiating trade deals. We've talked about the benefits of freedom of movement of goods and people which we will lose. You, OTOH, have given not a single example of how we might be better off outside the EU.

 

is classic sealioning. The goal is, whether he realises it himself or not, is to make us weary of constantly explaining the same so to onlookers it looks like he is right because we eventually don't respond.

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Vidcapper's pretense that we haven't done any of this:

is classic sealioning. The goal is, whether he realises it himself or not, is to make us weary of constantly explaining the same so to onlookers it looks like he is right because we eventually don't respond.

 

He knows what he's doing. The right wing is not to be trusted. Common senseless does the exact same thing. They ignore our poitns, pretend we haven't justifief or explained, and then repeat the same comment a few days/ weeks later. I might just start saving the page numbers and quoting the answers we've already given every time. No sealioning us!

 

"Rhetorically, sealioning fuses persistent questioning—often about basic information, information easily found elsewhere, or unrelated or tangential points—with a loudly-insisted-upon commitment to reasonable debate. It disguises itself as a sincere attempt to learn and communicate. Sealioning thus works both to exhaust a target's patience, attention, and communicative effort, and to portray the target as unreasonable."

 

Oh my god. It's as if they've sat here and based the entire description on vidcapper's posts!!!!

It haa been justified many times. God sake. The ignorance.

 

 

Surely whether or not Brexit is a success or not depends on the final deal we get. You can't just outright say it'll be a disaster.

Surely whether or not Brexit is a success or not depends on the final deal we get. You can't just outright say it'll be a disaster.

 

But Chris, with all due respect and what you can never answer, is that a good deal works both ways.. negotiation. Our country is a Service Based Export. We have a good education system, public funded healthcare and provide first class services to the rest of the world, especially in the West. Our people and systems are our assets. What do you think Trump wants? you are naive to the core if you don't think for one second that he will not negotiate a trade deal with us until all of the not for profit contracts go to big American companies. Likewise India and China will want visas relaxed so it is easier to get jobs in the UK for them to then eventually take the experience back to their home countries.

 

It's very difficult to say Brexit will be a success when we even ardudent Brexiteers have said it will take 40-50 years to really happen...

IMO vidcapper is a troll

IMO vidcapper is a troll

 

 

Do you say that because he maybe has a different opinion to you? If so that's pathetic.

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As stated, it is my opinion, therefore I don't need to justify it.

Vidcapper is a troll.

Vidcapper's pretense that we haven't done any of this:

is classic sealioning. The goal is, whether he realises it himself or not, is to make us weary of constantly explaining the same so to onlookers it looks like he is right because we eventually don't respond.

 

'sealioning'? That's a new one on me!

"Rhetorically, sealioning fuses persistent questioning—often about basic information, information easily found elsewhere, or unrelated or tangential points—with a loudly-insisted-upon commitment to reasonable debate. It disguises itself as a sincere attempt to learn and communicate. Sealioning thus works both to exhaust a target's patience, attention, and communicative effort, and to portray the target as unreasonable."

 

Oh my god. It's as if they've sat here and based the entire description on vidcapper's posts!!!!

 

Either that, or you wrote that entry yourself... :P

IMO vidcapper is a troll

 

Incorrect - trolls past opinions they don't even believe in in order to provoke people, but I *do* believe in what I post!

 

Incorrect - trolls past opinions they don't even believe in in order to provoke people, but I *do* believe in what I post!

 

And we believe that’s a load of tripe. Hope you don’t mind if I don’t justify that opinion.

 

 

And we believe that’s a load of tripe. Hope you don’t mind if I don’t justify that opinion.

 

No problem.